Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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I think it'd be best to rest Rooney for the last three games of the season, sounds like he's been playing through injury since the Munich away game. Since we haven't got much to play for and since RVP will be back soon, we shouldn't miss him too much if we keep him until the end of the season.
 
Stomach complaint? He shit himself when he heard LVG was coming more like.
 
Now its his groin. So we've gone from limp, to tummy ache to groin. Something a bit fishy about this story...

 
Now its his groin. So we've gone from limp, to tummy ache to groin. Something a bit fishy about this story...


Well the limp wasn't the problem, it was a symptom of the problem, which would make sense if it was a groin strain.

The stomach complaint I have no idea lol, maybe he had a stomach complaint too, or that was just complete bollocks.
 
Wayne Rooney ‘asks Manchester United not to appoint Louis van Gaal’

Wayne Rooney has reportedly asked senior Manchester United officials not to appoint Louis van Gaal as manager this summer.

Van Gaal is the favourite to take up the hot seat at Old Trafford, following the sacking of David Moyes last week.

But according to reports, Rooney has asked the board to consider somebody else – as he is not a fan of the Dutchman’s hard-line methods.

The Daily Mail claims that Rooney, who has a strong influence over the goings on at United after signing a new contract recently, believes Van Gaal would overlook him as the next captain and would challenge his authority with the players.

It’s not clear whether the board will listen, but Van Gaal is yet to sign anything, meaning it would be easy for United to look elsewhere


"and would challenge his authority with the players."

Well, being manager and all lol....


This is the second thing I've read about Rooney not wanting Van Gaal here, not the most reliable source but you know, the whole smoke with fire thing.:rolleyes:
 
Moyes brown nosed him from the day he arrived, he knows he won't get similar treatment from anyone else. Not sure if the likes of LVG will even see him as captain material.
 
Wayne Rooney ‘asks Manchester United not to appoint Louis van Gaal’

Wayne Rooney has reportedly asked senior Manchester United officials not to appoint Louis van Gaal as manager this summer.

Van Gaal is the favourite to take up the hot seat at Old Trafford, following the sacking of David Moyes last week.

But according to reports, Rooney has asked the board to consider somebody else – as he is not a fan of the Dutchman’s hard-line methods.

The Daily Mail claims that Rooney, who has a strong influence over the goings on at United after signing a new contract recently, believes Van Gaal would overlook him as the next captain and would challenge his authority with the players.

It’s not clear whether the board will listen, but Van Gaal is yet to sign anything, meaning it would be easy for United to look elsewhere


"and would challenge his authority with the players."

Well, being manager and all lol....


This is the second thing I've read about Rooney not wanting Van Gaal here, not the most reliable source but you know, the whole smoke with fire thing.:rolleyes:
Earlier I just mentioned I read that and got a fair amount of unwarranted stick. Good luck.
 
Because in both cases Chicharito was ahead of him, if you include Rooney's non penalty goals and ALL his assists, and compare it with JUST Hernandez goals stats, they are both on same ratio, every 95 minutes Roiney was either scoring or assisting, and Hernandez was scoring every 95 minutes. I don't even want to count with including Hernandez's assists, and he had five of those in total(and we know he isn't taking set pieces). Anyway, another proof that his stats are wrong.
And I can't find assist from open play, but considering van Persie had 15, and Rooney 11 assists in total, and van Persie's scoring ratio was much much better than Rooney's, I highly doubt he beat him even counting it as you said.
Last year:
Rooney's NPG+A per 90 = 0.94
RVP NPG+A per 90 = 0.92

Rooney shades it. You might need walking through this.

Hernandez looks as if he has been filtered out, <1000 minutes? Racist against mexicans? Have posted a message on there. If he's included then Hernandez (unless there is an another anomaly) had the best scoring contribution in the league at: 1.19.

That would put him ahead of Sturridge this year.
 
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Wayne Rooney ‘asks Manchester United not to appoint Louis van Gaal’

Wayne Rooney has reportedly asked senior Manchester United officials not to appoint Louis van Gaal as manager this summer.

Van Gaal is the favourite to take up the hot seat at Old Trafford, following the sacking of David Moyes last week.

But according to reports, Rooney has asked the board to consider somebody else – as he is not a fan of the Dutchman’s hard-line methods.

The Daily Mail claims that Rooney, who has a strong influence over the goings on at United after signing a new contract recently, believes Van Gaal would overlook him as the next captain and would challenge his authority with the players.

It’s not clear whether the board will listen, but Van Gaal is yet to sign anything, meaning it would be easy for United to look elsewhere


"and would challenge his authority with the players."

Well, being manager and all lol....


This is the second thing I've read about Rooney not wanting Van Gaal here, not the most reliable source but you know, the whole smoke with fire thing.:rolleyes:

If it's true which I doubt it would be because LVG would build the side around RVP and not Rooney. He's also a bold enough coach to bench him regularly which neither Moyes nor Giggs has the balls for.
 
It would be no surprise for Rooney not to be keen on him. Lets hope Rooney doesnt actually have much of a say on who is the next manager
 
Who is Manchester United?

The secretary?

I can imagine that conversation:

"Hello? This is Manchester United speaking"

"Hi it's Rooney, can you not appoint Van Gaal please? Thanks."

"We will see what we can do! Have a nice day y'all"

Who does Rooney ask? Either Woodward or the Glazers. Why didn't the mail just say?
 
We've got Rooney on a long, expensive contract. He can either like it or lump it.
 
I would very much doubt that Rooney has approached a club official directly with such opinions, now whether he/his camp are leaking them to the press as a way of manipulating matters, well that is more plausible i suppose.
 
Last year:
Rooney's NPG+A per 90 = 0.94
RVP NPG+A per 90 = 0.92

Rooney shades it. You might need walking through this.

Hernandez looks as if he has been filtered out, <1000 minutes? Racist against mexicans? Have posted a message on there. If he's included then Hernandez (unless there is an another anomaly) had the best scoring contribution in the league at: 1.19.

That would put him ahead of Sturridge this year.

How exactly did you count, van Persie had more assists than Rooney and had better goalscoring ratio, so I can't understand how he beats him? Assists from open play, or total number of assists, because from what I have seen there he usses total number of assists(and you are using it for Rooney too).
My count:
Rooney:
NPG(11) + all assists(10) per 90(2014 total) = 0.94
van Persie:
Npg(23) + all assists(15) per 90(3123 total) = 1.1


Even if does use some weird filters, It's not just Hernandez anyway. I counted 5 players who had much better NPG ratio including Walcott, Sturridge, Suarez, Dzeko and Chicharito in other thread he posted that link(I am quite sure there are few other players too), and all of them had quite good assist ratio, so in total they would end up having better npg+assist per 90 ratio than Rooney.
 
Not surprised he's started to pick up these little injuries recently. He's had a hell of a year in terms of workload. He pretty much carried the team for the half of the season (honourable mention to Januzaj). I hope he can get enough rest on either side of the world cup to be fresh next season.
 
Not surprised he's started to pick up these little injuries recently. He's had a hell of a year in terms of workload. He pretty much carried the team for the half of the season (honourable mention to Januzaj). I hope he can get enough rest on either side of the world cup to be fresh next season.
I just cant believe this. Rooney did not literally carry the team, he played as normal. His injuries are unrelated.
We should be impressed that he " carried " us to the exalted position of 7th?
So I guess if it were not for him we would have been relegated.
This is the problem I have with Rooney. His fans are hyperbolic in their praise of him.
 
I just cant believe this. Rooney did not literally carry the team, he played as normal. His injuries are unrelated.
We should be impressed that he " carried " us to the exalted position of 7th?
So I guess if it were not for him we would have been relegated.
This is the problem I have with Rooney. His fans are hyperbolic in their praise of him.

Rumours of his return to greatness were indeed a gross exaggeration, as from what i can recall the consistently noteworthy performances began to tail off as early as late September. That we actually had journalists acclaiming his football to be some of the best of his entire career, must either have been evidence of mass amnesia or superb PR on the part of Stretford. Perhaps the younger members of Fleet Street are unaware of the player who used to walk out onto pitches between 2004-10?

Frankly i see no reason why a combination of Welbeck, Januzaj, Kagawa and Hernandez [RVP too when available] would not have produced similar if not better results as well as improved functionality.
 
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I just cant believe this. Rooney did not literally carry the team, he played as normal. His injuries are unrelated.
We should be impressed that he " carried " us to the exalted position of 7th?
So I guess if it were not for him we would have been relegated.
This is the problem I have with Rooney. His fans are hyperbolic in their praise of him.

Spot on.
 
I just cant believe this. Rooney did not literally carry the team, he played as normal. His injuries are unrelated.
We should be impressed that he " carried " us to the exalted position of 7th?
So I guess if it were not for him we would have been relegated.
This is the problem I have with Rooney. His fans are hyperbolic in their praise of him.

As are his detractors in their criticism and the shocking ability to believe that just about ANY media report that comes with regard to him. If it's a transfer rumour we'll dismiss it as BS but "Rooney set to sell Valencia and Young in the summer" would be believed and discussed.
 
Rumours of his return to greatness were indeed a gross exaggeration, as from what i can recall the consistently noteworthy performances began to tail off as early late September. That we actually had journalists acclaiming his football to be some of the best of his entire career, must either have been evidence of mass amnesia or superb PR on the part of Stretford. Perhaps the younger members of Fleet Street are unaware of the player who used to walk out onto pitches between 2004-10?

Frankly i see no reason why a combination of Welbeck, Januzaj, Kagawa and Hernandez [RVP too when available] would not have produced similar if not better results as well as improved functionality.

You guys make it look like Stretford is God.
 
I just cant believe this. Rooney did not literally carry the team, he played as normal. His injuries are unrelated.

This is hilariously retroactive. Go back and look at Caf match threads from the entire first half of the season and you will even see the perennial Rooney-haters admitting that we'd have been totally fecked without him. He was massive in that first three or four months.

No-one is as hyperbolic and divorced from reality as the anti-Rooney brigade. It's worse than RAWK. He's still probably our best player, and certainly our most important, but some on here would have you believe he's Heskey.
 
This is the problem I have with Rooney. His fans are hyperbolic in their praise of him.

That's because the Rooney haters are completely the opposite. Every missed pass, every miscontrol is greatly exaggerated.
 
That's because the Rooney haters are completely the opposite. Every missed pass, every miscontrol is greatly exaggerated.

There are quite a lot of missed passes and miscontrols though, especially for some on upwards of £240k a week.
 
As are his detractors in their criticism and the shocking ability to believe that just about ANY media report that comes with regard to him. If it's a transfer rumour we'll dismiss it as BS but "Rooney set to sell Valencia and Young in the summer" would be believed and discussed.

He'd be a fan favourite again if he did that.
 
Let's not try and rewrite history here, for the first 3rd of the season he was very good and just about the only player bar ddg and januzaj who was.
 
This is hilariously retroactive. Go back and look at Caf match threads from the entire first half of the season and you will even see the perennial Rooney-haters admitting that we'd have been totally fecked without him. He was massive in that first three or four months.

No-one is as hyperbolic and divorced from reality as the anti-Rooney brigade. It's worse than RAWK. He's still probably our best player, and certainly our most important, but some on here would have you believe he's Heskey.

We're seventh, out of all cup competitions, and we lost a crazy amount of games in the first half of the season. I don't know how more fecked we could possibly be.

I think Rooney's performances have been exaggerated. He has been one of our best players this season but it really doesn't say much when practically every outfield player except him and Januzaj has been either average or shit.
 
The point somebody in here referenced about Rooney being like Pippen - the worlds best 'number two' is probably a very good comparison- in fact I'd say it's the best description of Rooney I've seen. He's always been a phenomenal component in making someone else look even better - he's a player who needs someone else to play world class alongside his season of world class/very good performances. I can't think of many other attackers who throughout the years adorn the playing abilities of those around him. Be it, Ronaldo, Hernandez, Welbeck, Saha, even van Persie for periods of last season... Whoever, he's always done it. But when it comes to him being the number one, the top man in the team, things aren't as good. He's had one or two seasons doing that, but that's normally with him as the main striker. Whilst he is a better footballer than van Persie (in my opinion) he needs someone of that calibre to perform alongside him to truly get the best out of him.

I think that could possibly explain his performances for the national team, too. Well, besides from when he's nursing/recovery from an injury; he always is forced to be the number one. Maybe it'll change this summer with Sturridge?
 
So when Suarez carried Liverpool to 7th last year, he was heavily praised. When Rooney carries us to 7th this year, his season can't have been good because we're gonna finish 7th. Right.
 
He was decent in the first 3rd of the season. He wasn't world class, superb, brilliant or anything close to a 240k a week (or whatever he's really on) level player, but yeah he was probably our best outfield player in a side in 7th place. For the other 2/3rds of the season he's been either injured or mediocre.

At no point this season has he consistently played like a top, top class player. In fact he hasn't done that in years, but apparently he's still our best player according to some :wenger:
 
I think it's more what people on here hope rather than expect. There will be tonnes of disappointed United fans if LVG comes in and doesn't drop Rooney. This sort of attitude from our own fans towards one of our best players is a bit sad to witness really.

I think most of them are just fed up of Rooney bitching United around and want a manager who has the cojones to put him in his place when need be.
 
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