I liked his interview actually, which is odd as I don't like him.
I don't get people having him as motm though as his overall play was below average if you discard the two goals, one of which was a penalty.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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I liked his interview actually, which is odd as I don't like him.
I don't get people having him as motm though as his overall play was below average if you discard the two goals, one of which was a penalty.
Last Summer, I believe you were one of a few who weren't impressed of my slating of Nani when I thought he should leave. I was picked on giving such an opinion rather than the opinion itself. Just saying.
There's losing the ball carelessly and there's losing possession of the ball. Both did the former. That was my point.
I'll happily drop this if you like.
Why does it have to be just slate or praise? You can be very happy at his contribution but still point out parts of his game which were obviously not upto his usual standard, it's just a realistic assessment of his performance. Do you think he had a great first half? No of course you didn't, saying so doesn't mean you think he's shit or something.
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What a weird post. I have no idea what point you are making here.
Agree with this.
Should never play as a no.10. He's a striker through and through. A good penalty and a longshot goal after receiving the ball from Kagawa, who then stretched the defense to open up for Rooney.
I agree he wasn't at his best, but he was decent. It was difficult for the team in the first half. But his second goal gave Norwich a punch that punctured them. So I would give him the MOTM for the impact he had.
Great second goal he scored. Top class finish and was on song in the second half.
That's just the thing though - in the second half he wasn't close to doing anything before he scored the penalty, which in all honesty he should do. I don't agree to giving players motm for the psychological impact. He played a little rubbish at times. Mata was much, much better. People complain about Valencia for instance, who had an assist, but how many chances did Rooney create for others?
Wayne's touch is so poor at times. It makes me wonder how can a world class player actually have such an awful touch when in poor form and yet score wonder goals?
I just don't understand that reasoning as I think it matters more how you play. If you play by that reasoning, you must agree that both Gerrard and Lampard are indeed superior to Scholes as all time greats.... They scored more vital goals that put games to bed.
It is good to see a striker still score despite having a pretty poor over-all game. Sometimes a striker does everything well but can't find
the back of the net. I think most of us would prefer the former. My problem, however, is that Rooney far too frequently displays poor first touches and wayward short passes. Against top clubs his inadequacies are more evident and added to not scoring he comes under great criticism.
I would have been more impressed by today's performance if it were against a top 4 ( sigh ) club.
Be that as it may, those two goals against Norwich will give him an insurance policy for messing up in the near future. At least with his fans and the media.
the back of the net. I think most of us would prefer the former. My problem, however, is that Rooney far too frequently displays poor first touches and wayward short passes. Against top clubs his inadequacies are more evident and added to not scoring he comes under great criticism.
I would have been more impressed by today's performance if it were against a top 4 ( sigh ) club.
Be that as it may, those two goals against Norwich will give him an insurance policy for messing up in the near future. At least with his fans and the media.
Wouldn't you say that he loosened up Norwich for the rest of the players? The penalty was in the first half btw. He scored a marvellous goal. Just like Messi does nothing in the whole match and just comes up with a moment of magic and deflates the opposition, Rooney did the same. You cannot underrate the psychological impact.
Btw, Valencia's assist was a mishit. Mata was much better, but he played a lot on the counter with an open Norwich defence.
His touch is too inconsistent to play as a no 10.
Only Mata had a better game today. Getting closer to the record
No, I don't think that's fair at all as it's not the same reasoning at all. This is based on one match and not a collection. I thought Rooney's overall game was shocking today, but he's been like this for the last few games, so it's no surprise to me. I did, however, think his two goals ended the game and that's why I selected him as my man of the match. The reasoning for my man of the match differs from game-to-game. If he didn't score two today, then I wouldn't have him anywhere near my top three, but given the context, I included him.
Why not? Rooney is a quality player and the only ones who deny it are those who have a prejudice against him.
Did Kagawa get an assist for that? Reminds me of Mata's first assist for Young.
That's actually not true...
Scholes actually has a better goal to minute ratio than either of them, especially from open play. I did a post in the Newbies section with the statistics.
I don't understand what the fuss is about?
It was a normal Rooney performance, not the best first touch, looks for the long pass before a short pass and gets a couple of goals and a few ambitious shots along the way.
Is he worth £300K per week? We can debate this for years if we wanted to.
Enjoy the victory people, Giggsy said he wants to put the smile on the fans faces again and he has succeeded...
It was a normal Rooney performance, not the best first touch, looks for the long pass before a short pass and gets a couple of goals and a few ambitious shots along the way.
Is he worth £300K per week? We can debate this for years if we wanted to.
Enjoy the victory people, Giggsy said he wants to put the smile on the fans faces again and he has succeeded...
Fans on German Bayern forum reacting to the van Gaal rumors - First day in office: ''Wayne you are my third choice striker.'' And more Rooney benched/fecked off jokes. Seems like they are expecting the inevitable as well.
Can't wait for Louis.
Can't wait for Louis.
He's really off form, but still delivers the goods. It's the usual, Wayne at sub 50% performance but still has balls to take on a half chance and score from it.
He's class. Can fecking give the ball away 100 times if he scores two goals a game.
Don't think enough are commenting on this. They want giggsy in! Maybe a little naive but it does make me smile the opinion they hold of him.
Exactly what I said with my mates while watching the game. Rooney should stop worrying about doing everything by himself to get the ball and JUST keep his derriere up front like a normal center-forward instead for crying out loud.
I can't wait either. Rooney will have an uphill battle to fight soon, just like what Ribery had to do after trying to hold Bayern hostage in 2009.Such awful reasoning.
What if we concede three during the process of Rooney losing the ball 100 times and therefore lose the game 3-2?
20 for the season now. Not bad really.
And rightly so, if the rumours about LVG taking over are true. Rooney needs a good kick up the behind if he wants to stay with us long term. He wasn't great in the first half today, but improved second. Still way off what he's done for us before though. The best thing for him would be a big personality managing him, who has no connection to our club or his previous one, and two talented no. 10s and RVP playing well, then Rooney can really show what he's made of. Nowhere to hide next season.
Thought he was a bit meh. Well taken penalty and good finish for his 2nd goal but apart from that I didn't think he played that well.
I cant beleive you sad feckers are still moaning, scored and played yet you still moan.Happy that other clubs supporters are making Rooney jokes.Sad lot.
Are you just speaking about one person's post, because only Kevin made that post and we all give him a bye because he is obviously retarded. I hate posts like this, you seem to dismiss all criticism no matter how warranted, grouping all opinions under one just because of one post you take exception with.
It's as if because he scores it must be accepted he had a perfect game? He didn't play near his ability, but still had a great impact on the game. Hopefully next time he can do both, because that's the Rooney most people remember at his best and want to see.
Yes I was just skipping through the posts and saw that one buy Kevin and felt like I'd had enough.It just seems like after every match we have posters just waiting to moan about him. My bad I guess.
In fairness I did think you were having a go at the general sentiment too, so fair enough. I can get that though, Kevin for you is probably like jdmufc for me, it's very hard to hold back from responding to those posts.
I think there are things to moan about, well not really moan, but things you can point out to being missing from his usual game, but at the same time he's had some really off games recently and hasn't produced. Today he did, twice, so while I'd still want to see the standard of his game improve because he can offer so much more, at least he is heavily contributing to wins in the meantime. Part of the draw with Wayne is that he's so much more than a player who just scores goals, so many are willing to accept that as the sum of his game, but when he's truly on form he can be completely devastating. When his touch and passing comes back, people will rightly go on and on about that because it makes him a much better player than the Wayne of right now.
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I have never really been impressed by Rooney. He has occasional great games but so do most good players. Nani has games when he has been unplayable.
His constant movement up and down the field is seen by some as displaying an excellent workrate, putting in a shift or showing a great desire to win.
His first touch has never been top notch nor his short passes and one-twos. He is decidedly one-footed, though not in the same league as Valencia and only had part of one season when he was a threat in the air.
At his best he would beat defenders with pace or barrel them over he never had silky dribbling skills.
I think his perceived greatness has been manufactured by the English media and some die-hard Utd fans. He is a good player most times who needs to stay in position and stop making hollwood passes best left for midfielders.
Not once during the first half did the commentators I had criticize his poor touches or loss of balls. I am surprised they did not use the usual " unlucky " or
" uncharacteristic " terms.
He is given a break with a phrase not used for other players:- " he needs a few games to get back his touch ". He could be missing for just one week and is given such leeway. I think this special treatment has made his ego massive leading to him being intolerant of being second fiddle to anyone even if that player is better than him.
I can't wait for LVG to come in and treat him just like any other player. The English media will probably hound him if he drops Rooney. "England's best player cannot be dropped". I suspect, however, after the world cup Rooney will finally no longer be England's darling " Saviour".
Some other poor unwitting youngster will take his place.
Wow. I said it. Been dying to get that out of me.
His constant movement up and down the field is seen by some as displaying an excellent workrate, putting in a shift or showing a great desire to win.
His first touch has never been top notch nor his short passes and one-twos. He is decidedly one-footed, though not in the same league as Valencia and only had part of one season when he was a threat in the air.
At his best he would beat defenders with pace or barrel them over he never had silky dribbling skills.
I think his perceived greatness has been manufactured by the English media and some die-hard Utd fans. He is a good player most times who needs to stay in position and stop making hollwood passes best left for midfielders.
Not once during the first half did the commentators I had criticize his poor touches or loss of balls. I am surprised they did not use the usual " unlucky " or
" uncharacteristic " terms.
He is given a break with a phrase not used for other players:- " he needs a few games to get back his touch ". He could be missing for just one week and is given such leeway. I think this special treatment has made his ego massive leading to him being intolerant of being second fiddle to anyone even if that player is better than him.
I can't wait for LVG to come in and treat him just like any other player. The English media will probably hound him if he drops Rooney. "England's best player cannot be dropped". I suspect, however, after the world cup Rooney will finally no longer be England's darling " Saviour".
Some other poor unwitting youngster will take his place.
Wow. I said it. Been dying to get that out of me.
Really? Can you post the link? I have said myself that Rooney has to improve/adapt if LvG comes in, but I don't think it's that clear cut. Rooney obviously has some qualities and I would be surprised if more than just very few Bayern fans thought Rooney would be 3rd choice immediately. Pls post a link as I am interested in those Bayern fans' opinions on Rooney/LvG.
That's basically been the whole issue with this thread, score a goal / get an assist and everything else can be ignored.
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