Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Looking through stats, he covered as much distance as our any other player, only Kagawa and Carrick covered more. He took our corners, he was taking those long diagonal passes at the end. I really don't see how the injury affected his performance. Only excuse would be if he was actually good in first game at least, but he was poor when he was perfectly fit at Old Trafford too.

SteveJ said:
Smooth Criminal? ;)
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I don't know if anyone noticed, but the Sky commentators, especially Alan Smith, were tripping over themselves to make excuses for Rooney last night. Like when he ignored Kagawa in the first half, it was because the defenders had the space covered(? Really?)... Or when he fluffed the chance that Welbeck and Kagawa laid on a plate for him, Alan Smith actually had the audacity to say that the pass was overhit and had quote, "too much pace for Rooney to work with"?! Honestly, beggars belief!

This English jingoism pissses me off on a good day, but made me positively suicidal last night...
 
But what if he scored from the halfway line late on!?

Honestly, it was pathetic that he was kept on the pitch. I can see why he started and don't argue with that, but he was terrible. And then Moyes says things like he was struggling to kick the ball yet at the same time he's too big a player to leave out while we don't have RVP.
 
rotherham_red said:
I don't know if anyone noticed, but the Sky commentators, especially Alan Smith, were tripping over themselves to make excuses for Rooney last night. Like when he ignored Kagawa in the first half, it was because the defenders had the space covered(? Really?)... Or when he fluffed the chance that Welbeck and Kagawa laid on a plate for him, Alan Smith actually had the audacity to say that the pass was overhit and had quote, "too much pace for Rooney to work with"?! Honestly, beggars belief!

This English jingoism pissses me off on a good day, but made me positively suicidal last night...
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Rooney screwed that up and didn't play well but that was terrific defending by Lahm there in fairness. Rooney still should've scored or set up a goal in spite of it but Lahm played that perfectly.
 
Brwned said:
Rooney screwed that up and didn't play well but that was terrific defending by Lahm there in fairness. Rooney still should've scored or set up a goal in spite of it but Lahm played that perfectly.
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No doubt, but Rooney should have passed it to Kagawa so much sooner, Lahm would not have been in any position to get close to Kagawa without risking a penalty. Rooney, lest we forget, dwindled on the ball for at least two seconds before even giving the hint of doing something with it. If he even passed it a split second before, Kagawa would have been imn.
 
Bread said:
Anyone got a gif or clip of his miss at 1-1 last night? I honestly can't remember it!
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It was a really embarrassing miss for a player of his supposed calibre. If he had put that away, we would have most likely gone through because it would have effected Bayern's mentality and approach going forward.

I am conflicted towards blaming Moyes or Rooney in this scenario. Even with a bad toe, Rooney had enough time to hold the ball and side foot or lace it into the net. On the otherhand, Rooney could of done better on two earlier chances, but Moyes relutancy to take Rooney off, made the third spurned chance more painful to watch. Leaving question towards why Rooney was still on despite his poor first half display. It is ironic though how Moyes has catered to Rooney this season and when the time he expects his star man to perform, he was let down on both occasion. Moyes needs to have more faith in his squad than just selected individuals. If he had, Rooney might have come of for giggs or Hernandez. This change who would have most likely had a better impact to our team performance with the way Rooney was performing.
 
It was a really weird miss for Rooney, as he's one of the most reliable players in world football on the cut back. He was shite last night, but I wouldn't use this example as a stick to beat his efforts as a #9. He's one of the very best. And I say this as a pretty big critic of parts of the technical side of the game.
 
Moyes lacks any conviction when it comes to dealing with the big players. He'll never take off Rooney no matter how badly he's playing and will shaft the team structure to keep him on.
 
And so is this. Yup, no bother Henry, the club that pays his wages should just refuse to play him and help the national team instead. Our league position isn't important, neither is our UEFA coefficient, nor the incredibly outside shot of a top four spot. Infact, we should go the whole hog and pack in for the year. De Gea has played alright, give him some time off, too. Christ. Winter is a good writer but that is the biggest amount of bollocks I've ever read. Moyes "owes" Rooney? Do one. Rooney gets paid thousands a week, he's owed feck all.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...fit-for-England-and-the-jungle-of-Manaus.html
 
Kag said:
That simply can't be true.

I pray for the sanity of the club that it isn't.
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If he's going to play like he did yesterday, I don't mind. I'd almost rather he didn't play again this season anyway. It's not as though it matters anymore. :(
 
Gerald G said:
The Daily Star claim Rooney may miss the rest of the season with a 'chipped bone'.
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Well, thank you very much Moyes for letting it drag for too long instead of recognizing it could be harmful for everyone to let Rooney overstay on the pitch. :mad:
 
Amadaeus said:


It was a really embarrassing miss for a player of his supposed calibre. If he had put that away, we would have most likely gone through because it would have effected Bayern's mentality and approach going forward.

I am conflicted towards blaming Moyes or Rooney in this scenario. Even with a bad toe, Rooney had enough time to hold the ball and side foot or lace it into the net. On the otherhand, Rooney could of done better on two earlier chances, but Moyes relutancy to take Rooney off, made the third spurned chance more painful to watch. Leaving question towards why Rooney was still on despite his poor first half display. It is ironic though how Moyes has catered to Rooney this season and when the time he expects his star man to perform, he was let down on both occasion. Moyes needs to have more faith in his squad than just selected individuals. If he had, Rooney might have come of for giggs or Hernandez. This change who would have most likely had a better impact to our team performance with the way Rooney was performing.
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I watched it live on quite a poor quality link, but yep that's as bad as I remember it.
Very similar position to the Barcelona 2011 final game, but this time, just a woeful pee roller of a hit!
 
Amadaeus said:


It was a really embarrassing miss for a player of his supposed calibre. If he had put that away, we would have most likely gone through because it would have effected Bayern's mentality and approach going forward.
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I was at a pub watching the match with some random BVB fans, after that miss ( while his strange decision making from circa 7th minute was still in my head ) they've started asking me how much he earns to miss like that, it was God damn awful. He was meant to lead us to the victory that night and when it came down to him to make the difference, he bottled it twice.

Money aside, you'd expect a shot on target from an average player in such situation, you'd expect Rooney to score in the same situation. Sadly, you only would.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
This is... odd...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...rt-agreement-with-Wayne-Rooneys-new-deal.html
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The press have clearly had another briefing: nevermind the cak results look how clever we are. We can offer sponsors England's star player for advertising even if we can't give them the exposure European Cup football.

This is the logic of a money man not a football man. Someone who sees the European Cup as a way to make money not history, and is thinking solely of the revenue stream.
 
Eugenius said:
Moyes lacks any conviction when it comes to dealing with the big players. He'll never take off Rooney no matter how badly he's playing and will shaft the team structure to keep him on.
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Whilst i agree and wish he would, there aren't many managers who would bench Rooney. Even when he was awful last season Fergie left him on as he's the star and can change games.
Big names get played, maybe they'll be dropped for the odd game but by and large theyre unquestioned
 
Sandikan said:
I watched it live on quite a poor quality link, but yep that's as bad as I remember it.
Very similar position to the Barcelona 2011 final game, but this time, just a woeful pee roller of a hit!
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That's interesting. I've often thought that a lot of the opinons on here are down to so many people watching the game on crappy streams.

When you watch it on an HD telly, you can clearly see the ball take a huge bobble right before it gets to him.
 
For all ye Persie haters, i'm inclined to believe we would be through if he were out there instead.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
That's interesting. I've often thought that a lot of the opinons on here are down to so many people watching the game on crappy streams.

When you watch it on an HD telly, you can clearly see the ball take a huge bobble right before it gets to him.
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He should have done so so much better anyway. Bobble or not. And his chance in the first half when he twisted and turned like an overweight crippled 60 year old instead of shooting or playing Kagawa in was even worse.
 
Rozay said:
He would have scored that first chance.
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There's no way to say that, I'm inclined to believe RVP is a better goal scorer than Rooney but bottom line is, RVP has missed in situations like this, people are always going to hold that against him unfortunately... Before it happened though, I think most would have backed Rooney to do it :lol:
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
There's no way to say that, I'm inclined to believe RVP is a better goal scorer than Rooney but bottom line is, RVP has missed in situations like this, people are always going to hold that against him unfortunately... Before it happened though, I think most would have backed Rooney to do it :lol:
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Rooney's been comfortably the better finisher of the two of them, since RvP joined the club.

I would struggle to think of Rooney missing another easy chance over the last two seasons. RvP's missed some absolute sitters.

 
Rozay said:
For all ye Persie haters, i'm inclined to believe we would be through if he were out there instead.
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:lol: I see you've now retreated from your "we'll beat Bayern" nonsense to "we'd beat them if we picked different players".

They're a comfortably better side than us with an infinitely better manager, stop embarrassing yourself and admit you were wrong.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Rooney's been comfortably the better finisher of the two of them, since RvP joined the club.

I would struggle to think of Rooney missing another easy chance over the last two seasons. RvP's missed some absolute sitters.
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Really? Wow, you could have had Rooney above RVP for most things he does, except finishing for me. RVP last season especially was phenomenal, Rooney I don't think is a bad finisher by any means, just not in the same class as I'd put RVP, or possibly an in form Hernandez.

Again to repeat, that doesn't mean I think Hernandez is better than Rooney, simply a more composed finisher.
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
Really? Wow, you could have had Rooney above RVP for most things he does, except finishing for me. RVP last season especially was phenomenal, Rooney I don't think is a bad finisher by any means, just not in the same class as I'd put RVP, or possibly an in form Hernandez.

Again to repeat, that doesn't mean I think Hernandez is better than Rooney, simply a more composed finisher.
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Seeing as I've already posted one video of a bad miss, might as well stick these here too...



 
Blasphemy said:
:lol: I see you've now retreated from your "we'll beat Bayern" nonsense to "we'd beat them if we picked different players".

They're a comfortably better side than us with an infinitely better manager, stop embarrassing yourself and admit you were wrong.
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Not at all.

After watching both games I felt totally vindicated. Easy for you to come out with such crap now after the result, although I'm sure you were in agreement with me after Evra scored. Or were you just sitting back waiting for us to lose?

And I don't even get what you're talking about anyway, nobody, except you, has even questioned my assertion that we could have won the tie, so I have not recanted to 'if we picked different players'. Firstly, Persie was injured and could not be picked anyway. And secondly, I could only speak about actual incidents in the tie, like missed chances, after the tie had been played, not before when I made a more general comment.

I said we could beat Bayern, not that we 'would'. Most dismissed it as impossible and laughed it off. I'm guessing since nobody has reproached me on my comments that they also learned that we could actually beat Bayern after watching the tie.

Anyway, go play somewhere. Nonsense post.
 
Rozay said:
Not at all.

After watching both games I felt totally vindicated. Easy for you to come out with such crap now after the result, although I'm sure you were in agreement with me after Evra scored. Or were you just sitting back waiting for us to lose?
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Yes, it's real easy for people to say that of course Bayern were going to win when they, you know, won which most people predicted in the first place.

And I don't even get what you're talking about anyway, nobody, except you, has even questioned my assertion that we could have won the tie, so I have not recanted to 'if we picked different players'. Firstly, Persie was injured and could not be picked anyway. And secondly, I could only speak about actual incidents in the tie, like missed chances, after the tie had been played, not before when I made a more general comment.

I said we could beat Bayern, not that we 'would'. Most dismissed it as impossible and laughed it off. I'm guessing since nobody has reproached me on my comments that they also learned that we could actually beat Bayern after watching the tie.

Anyway, go play somewhere. Nonsense post.
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Rozay said:
I expected us to progress even before a ball was kicked in this tie, and stand by that. I expect a 2-2 draw in Munich. We will definitely have joy on the counter.
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No, you said we'd do Bayern over two legs and continued to maintain that even after a home score draw.

I just wanted to call people out on the 'you heard it here first' stuff people post where they claim something pretty unlikely will happen (like Moyes's United beating Bayern over two legs) and then they can quote themselves about how smart they are if their bad predictions ever come true and assume it will stay buried when they're inevitably wrong.
 
Blasphemy said:
Yes, it's real easy for people to say that of course Bayern were going to win when they, you know, won which most people predicted in the first place.





No, you said we'd do Bayern over two legs and continued to maintain that even after a home score draw.

I just wanted to call people out on the 'you heard it here first' stuff people post where they claim something pretty unlikely will happen (like Moyes's United beating Bayern over two legs) and then they can quote themselves about how smart they are if their bad predictions ever come true and assume it will stay buried when they're inevitably wrong.
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Okay, clap for yourself then.

Not to mention you have found one post of several on this matter from even before the draw was made.

There is no way anyone could, without a crystal ball, say we WOULD beat Bayern. I always backed us though, and the team showed me that I was right to back them. They had the measure of Bayern for 140 mins out of 180 mins.

Why don't you post people's counter views from before the tie? I suppose everyone else was saying 'hmm, it will be tight, but Bayern will probably just nick it at the end' then right? I'm guessing that is what you were saying right? Nah, chances are you were amongst the majority who hoped and expected we'd be battered and Moyes would be beheaded in the Allianz Arena as a result, as opposed to him coming out with plenty of credit, as did the team.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Seeing as I've already posted one video of a bad miss, might as well stick these here too...
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:lol: Congratulations, you have found a time where they have missed, if I posted loads of Rooney, would it serve to prove my point? No, and it doesn't for you either, I respect your opinion and I don't think there's a lot in it, but for me Rooney is the best player of the 3, RVP and Hernandez the more composed/natural finishers.
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
:lol: Congratulations, you have found a time where they have missed, if I posted loads of Rooney, would it serve to prove my point? No, and it doesn't for you either, I respect your opinion and I don't think there's a lot in it, but for me Rooney is the best player of the 3, RVP and Hernandez the more composed/natural finishers.
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Actually, it would.

Comparing how likely strikers are to miss sitters is probably the only way in which "trial by youtube" makes sense. You're talking about discrete episodes which are going to get documented for posterity. Tot them and up away you go.
 
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