Yes, because RvP's inury was supposed to be a blessing in disguise.
BTW, he ran a lot and didn't exactly look unfit.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Yes, because RvP's inury was supposed to be a blessing in disguise.
BTW, he ran a lot and didn't exactly look unfit.
Thing is, a contract length should not be the basis for selection. What the hell have we become? We've gone from selling Ince, Hughes, Van Nistelrooy, Beckham and Ronaldo whilst rebuilding the team and staying successful), rewarding proper performers like Roy Keane with big contracts etc to keeping an inconsistent, want-away player and rewarding him with the biggest contract in our history, and contemplating keeping underperformers like Evra on way beyond their peaks because they have "experience."
And I actually forgot about Mata for awhile there. So now, on top of Kagawa and RVP, we have another good reason to stop relying on Rooney.
Running isn't the issue. He had a toe injury, which would effect his striking of the ball. That was evident in his finishing.
I think it might have been a mental barrier. Your mind would make you hesitate to strike the ball when you've got any type of foot or toe injury painkiller or not. You might not feel pain when you hit the ball but your brain will still tell you not to do it.
that chance was clearly missed because of it. that's why Rooney should not have played.
Four people, FOUR, have him down as our MotM tonight. How, how is that possible? I'm lost for words...
Why did he take set pieces then?
good point.
obviously if he had felt in training that he couldn't strike a ball, he should never have been included in the squad, let alone started. maybe he just bottled it, it's possible.
Shite tonight. He should have been taken off the moment it was clear that he genuinely wasn't capable of kicking the ball with his laces. It was obvious with that chance. He usually blasts them in. Shame.
Dunno. Maybe it's different with set pieces when you have time to set yourself properly. Moyes said post match that Rooney was struggling to strike it cleanly, so he obviously had some sort of problem.
They must be Liverpool fans trolling us. That's the worst performance i have seen of Rooney in 11 seasons.
My grandma would score the Welbeck cutback in a blindfold. He's let everyone at this club down. He should have asked to be substituted after that miss.
Yep, my thoughts exactly. It's just a poor excuse. Even if he has an excuse, he was shit in both games. If he had just an average performance we would look much better in these two games, which is really a shame.
His performance wasn't that much different to the one he gave in the quarter-final away leg last season, in the Bernabeu. I just think he looks out of place at the highest level. He actually reminds me somewhat of Francesco Totti, a player who would arrive with this great reputation domestically, but who on a European and International stage made me wonder what the fuss was about.
No doubt Rooney will be 'world class' again once he's scored a brace against Stoke, though.
No doubt Rooney will be 'world class' again once he's scored a brace against Stoke, though.
Absolutely woeful tonight and should have been taken off instead of Fletcher.
He's been scoring goals for us in the biggest of big games for years now so lets not sit and start to rewrite history.
It's in his contract that he can't be subbed off in big games, leads to anger and confusion
Absolutely pathetic from a management point of view. No bollocks at all.
This.
Rooney was poor. He had our best chances tonight and wasted them.
If his substandard showing was down to the toe he should've been removed.
I would pay up to 500 euros to see Rooney sold.
A toe injury doesn't stop you striking a ball well. It'd just hurt afterwards.
The best part about that miss was when Rooney seemingly looked pissed at Welbeck for something...
There was a chance in the first half where Rooney had Kagawa in the clear, but he never passed there. I dunno what the problem was is, but I noticed several times how Rooney never passes to Kagawa. Nevertheless, he should never have played if he was struggling that much, END OF.
Was clearly impeded by his injury.
It was fine to give him 45 minutes to see if he could play through it, but when it was clear that he wasn't in good enough physical condition to lead the line tonight, should have been subbed early. Fluffed our best chances tonight
It was fine to give him 45 minutes to see if he could play through it, but when it was clear that he wasn't in good enough physical condition to lead the line tonight, should have been subbed early. Fluffed our best chances tonight
I was totally baffled by that. But that's Wayne isn't it? It's always someone else's fault...
Just can't understand why he wasn't taken off. Hindered our performance every time he got the ball.
Has nobody watched the replay? There was a huge bobble as he was about to hit it. He probably thought Welbeck messed up the pass. He was wrong but the frustration was understandable.
if history has taught us anything about Rooney its that he doesnt play well when unfit and secondly it normally takes him a few matches to play back to top form again when he has just come back from an injury. Shouldnt have played tonight.
He hit them with his in-step, obviously.
Towards the end he was pinging long balls out wide too.
Weird comment. That's not what I'm doing at all. I'm stating fact.
He's injured. Was asked to play. Did so.
My problem with him is not even him missing that chances, it's his all-round play which was terrible in both games. And when a player who leads your attack plays so poor, how can you expect anything from the people he should be supporting with the passes?
He is supposedly excellent number ten, but is creative as Antonio Valencia(ironically, his creativity also depends whether Valencia beats his man after he sends the ball wide), and is world class striker who has inconsistent touch and can't really keep the ball very well, and his pace isn't one of his best attributes. He is an all around player who isn't really world class in any position he plays, and even though we have better players in both position he is good at, we will play them out of positions and stick with him through the middle why exactly?
He is supposedly excellent number ten, but is creative as Antonio Valencia(ironically, his creativity also depends whether Valencia beats his man after he sends the ball wide), and is world class striker who has inconsistent touch and can't really keep the ball very well, and his pace isn't one of his best attributes. He is an all around player who isn't really world class in any position he plays, and even though we have better players in both position he is good at, we will play them out of positions and stick with him through the middle why exactly?
‘He is able to train and is massively keen to be involved. He is happy to take an injection which shows you his feeling for the game and the club.
‘Everybody knows the character Wayne is. He is determined to play and if he is determined we’d be mad not to (play him).
I wondered what happened to Comedy Dave - now I know.
Not sure what point you're trying to make here? Are you criticising Rooney for wanting to play even when injured?
Moyes makes the call. Not Rooney.
Point about Rooney wanting to play, and not being asked to play as you said.
If Rooney wants to play, he plays, it's really not that hard to see after watching his and Moyes' relationship this season.
I never said Rooney didn't want to play. I said he was asked to play whilst injured. Which he clearly was.
I'd expect Rooney to want to play in a Champions League Semi Final. In fact I'd be concerned if he didn't. It's up to Moyes to decide if he's up to it and then be brave enough to take him off if he's playing shit.
Moyes took an understandable risk by starting him. What was completely baffling is why he left him on.
The only problem is that Moyes admits Rooney was feeling the injury yet didn't take him off. Strange.
Of course it's annoying to blame Rooney for missing a couple chances. But players miss chances unfortunately, it happens. He wasn't good today that's for sure. I understand Moyes starting him the only thing is I don't get that if he's clearly feeling the injury, why not take him off?
I'm not going to abuse Rooney like some others have, he's been our best outfield player this season and players miss chance like RvP did in both legs vs Madrid last season. It's all ifs and buts. There will always be people looking for a new scapegoat when we lose.
Of course it's annoying to blame Rooney for missing a couple chances. But players miss chances unfortunately, it happens. He wasn't good today that's for sure. I understand Moyes starting him the only thing is I don't get that if he's clearly feeling the injury, why not take him off?
I'm not going to abuse Rooney like some others have, he's been our best outfield player this season and players miss chance like RvP did in both legs vs Madrid last season. It's all ifs and buts. There will always be people looking for a new scapegoat when we lose.
I don't see it like this. ALL players are keen to play. I'm sure Lindegaard wanted to play too but it doesn't mean that Moyes selects him. It's not a case of 'Raise your hand if you want to play tomorrow'. Moyes' comments are demonstrating that he's not forcing Rooney to play on a injury, he's not pressuring him and infact Wayne was happy to take the injection.
If players can't be bothered playing a champions league quarter final they wouldn't be playing for Manchester United. Criticise his performance but don't criticise him for wanting to play every game, that's Rooney, he's never going to say 'nah don't fancy it boss'. That's just the way it is.
300k a week. That is all.
You quoted a guy who said that he wanted to play answering that he was asked to play. Seems to me that you are implying that he was pretty much forced to play.
And he didn't look injured from what I have saw. Players who struggle to kick a ball don't take set pieces and don't stay on the pitch for 90 minutes.
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