Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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There was a close up on his face, just before kick off, looking very focused.

I'm one of the biggest critics of Rooney's off the field stuff but when he has his head in right place his commitment on the pitch is phenomenal.
 
BW.k said:
Tonight just showed how important Rooney is to us. Gave the ball a couple of times and his touches were inconsistent but he was heavily involved in the goals we scored. Covered everything left,right and center and showed the desire and spirit that was required. He may be paid a bit too much but he's a special player who I'm glad plays for us.
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He was only involved in the second goal, weird post. Unless you count his involvemant for van Persie's free kick which would surely be ridiculous.
 
Sultan said:
Man possessed tonight. He was all over the pitch.
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Very, very good, and I don't like him. What's interesting is that his work rate and miles covered are highlighted, but RVP almost ran as much as he did! Rooney runs with more urgency though.

He still has a sloppy first touch; he isn't the world's best dribbler, nor does he have great pace anymore, but he has a killer instinct that gets him past players, into the right positions and wins so many balls back. Important player indeed.
 
Amar__ said:
He was only involved in the second goal, weird post. Unless you count his involvemant for van Persie's free kick which would surely be ridiculous.
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Never said he assisted all the goals we scored. How is it surely ridiculous to count his involvement in the RVP goal? Got past a couple of players and played the ball to Welbeck who was fouled that lead to the freekick. I count it as a contribution.
 
BW.k said:
Never said he assisted all the goals we scored. How is it surely ridiculous to count his involvement in the RVP goal? Got past a couple of players and played the ball to Welbeck who was fouled that lead to the freekick. I count it as a contribution.
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That was a wonderful burst through midfield, weaved his way beyond 3 or 4 players and got his pass away under alot of pressure. He played very well off the ball too. His tracking and challenges were excellent.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
That was a wonderful burst through midfield, weaved his way beyond 3 or 4 players and got his pass away under alot of pressure. He played very well off the ball too. His tracking and challenges were excellent.
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Yeah that bit reminded me of the old Rooney where he'd just try to beat an entire midfield on his own. It was a mature performance from him and was important in our win.
 
BW.k said:
Never said he assisted all the goals we scored. How is it surely ridiculous to count his involvement in the RVP goal? Got past a couple of players and played the ball to Welbeck who was fouled that lead to the freekick. I count it as a contribution.
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I thought that wasn't for the goal, my bad, but still he wasn't involved for the first. He was probably the third player most involved for our goals, so it was weird comment how ever you look it.
 
Say what you want about him, he can get you off your seat. He has that basic connection with the crowd that you can't really quantify. Absolutely priceless on a night like tonight. When we haven't got the silky football, we need Rooney in this mood, Jones flinging himself into challenges. Easy to underestimate its effect.
 
Amar__ said:
I thought that wasn't for the goal, my bad, but still he wasn't involved for the first. He was probably the third player most involved for our goals, so it was weird comment how ever you look it.
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No problem. How was that a weird comment? I said he was heavily involved in the goals we scored(not ALL the goals) and neither I said that he was most involved in our goals. Said that he's important to us and a special player and I'm glad he's in our team. What's wrong in that?
 
BW.k said:
No problem. How was that a weird comment? I said he was heavily involved in the goals we scored(not ALL the goals) and neither I said that he was most involved in our goals. Said that he's important to us and a special player and I'm glad he's in our team. What's wrong in that?
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Nothing, I just don't think he should be singled out for our goals more than van Persie or Giggs.
 
Sky1981 said:
This should goes in the unpopular view thread, but I believe running around all across the pitch is detrimental and counter productive to a good system.

Messi are given a free license to roam, but he made them intelegently, he doesn't simply roam around to midfield disrupting the balance of the midfield, he pick an empty space or the opposition weak link to exploit.

Rooney, imo is just about running all over the space demanding for balls (while generally it's a good thing), he vacates the position he should be at (front)
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it certainly can be. he seems to be getting gassed towards the end of matches too. puts a lot of effort in
 
Gladiator said:
it certainly can be. he seems to be getting gassed towards the end of matches too. puts a lot of effort in
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Another thing I might add is that I believe Messi is not simply running wherever he likes, there is a certain degree of agreement with Xavi/Inniesta and his teams on where he possibly be running into at given circumstances.

Its a free roam in a sense that he is licensed to make that occasional drifting away from his original position, but IMO his teammates roughly knew where he'll be running and thus can supply him the ball (or making an OTB movement accordingly)

I can't see the same with our wayne, he just impromptu running wherever he likes. He might press a few players by surprise, but the overall effect might not be as effective compared to if he sticks to his original position.

Free roaming is normally reserved for the best of the best of players, normally an inteligent player instead of simply one who can run the most.
 
Sky1981 said:
Another thing I might add is that I believe Messi is not simply running wherever he likes, there is a certain degree of agreement with Xavi/Inniesta and his teams on where he possibly be running into at given circumstances.

Its a free roam in a sense that he is licensed to make that occasional drifting away from his original position, but IMO his teammates roughly knew where he'll be running and thus can supply him the ball (or making an OTB movement accordingly)

I can't see the same with our wayne, he just impromptu running wherever he likes. He might press a few players by surprise, but the overall effect might not be as effective compared to if he sticks to his original position.

Free roaming is normally reserved for the best of the best of players, normally an inteligent player instead of simply one who can run the most.
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i agree. personally i think free roaming is overrated these days. if the player in the free roaming role isn't taking up good positions to complement his teammates or the shape of the team then what good is it playing him in a free role? he might as well be more restricted. teams like bayern showed us last season the power of having a balanced team over relying individual brilliance. there's no free roaming going on there even when they're interchanging positions and such. methodical, flexible and intelligent. that's an incredibly difficult balance to strike because there are many different things to weigh such as player's tendencies as well as not overexaggerating your strengths while underestimating your opponent's weaknesses.

madrid are really starting to turn the style on with ancelotti but it's not just because of the quality there, it's also because of the balance within the team. this is sometimes why a free roaming role can more of a hindrance. there are key moments in a game, especially in transitions where having one player out of sync with the rest can cause a chain reaction which leads to goals being conceded and other things. anywho i'm beginning to ramble. i think you get my point
 
togg said:
I get the feeling the deep love of the club from him is back......
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Aye, I mean just look at this at the final whistle last night...

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Outpouring of emotion, so fecking sexy :drool:
 
Where does that impression he's a dimwit outside of football comes from? Some particular interview, his sexual appetite, choice in agents,....?
 
His best performance for over 4 months.

Needs to find a consistency at this level however, something he's always struggled with.
 
He's an infinitely better player when deployed deeper and he works much better with RVP too. It's something that should have happened months ago.

It was a selfless performance yesterday, absolutely brilliant. A box to box striker.
 
He neither has the pace of his teen days nor he's the best dribbler in the squad but he has developed that killer instinct and clever agile manoeuvre which gets him past players. He dribbled past his man 6 times last time according to whoscored.
 
Rooney running everywhere on the pitch and putting in a defensive shift rather than staying up and doing what a no 10 is supposed to do is down to the fact that our midfield is in a weak state and he has to do his work as well make sure we don't get overrun in the middle. Once we have a quality midfielder who's capable of keeping the ball well and dictating the play Rooney will play higher up and just concentrate on his role. In the 08-09 season when he had a younger Carrick, full of energy Anderson and a fitter Fletcher , Rooney found himself in a lot of goalscoring opportunities and spent most of his time creating and to me it was one of his best seasons.
 
Gladiator said:
is anyone disputing this?
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Yeah, this guy.

Sky1981 said:
I can't see the same with our wayne, he just impromptu running wherever he likes. He might press a few players by surprise, but the overall effect might not be as effective compared to if he sticks to his original position.
Free roaming is normally reserved for the best of the best of players, normally an inteligent player instead of simply one who can run the most.
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Thought he was very good yesterday as well. Short passing is still inconsistent but his long passes were great and he showed a lot of energy and fight.
 
BW.k said:
Rooney running everywhere on the pitch and putting in a defensive shift rather than staying up and doing what a no 10 is supposed to do is down to the fact that our midfield is in a weak state and he has to do his work as well make sure we don't get overrun in the middle. Once we have a quality midfielder who's capable of keeping the ball well and dictating the play Rooney will play higher up and just concentrate on his role. In the 08-09 season when he had a younger Carrick, full of energy Anderson and a fitter Fletcher , Rooney found himself in a lot of goalscoring opportunities and spent most of his time creating and to me it was one of his best seasons.
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I agree with this. He seems to have to do a midfielder's job and a strikers job at the same time and I think it is due to our weak midfield. Especially yesterday with Giggs in it. He was higher up the pitch than Rooney sometimes.

But a brilliant performance form Rooney last night. Love the fight and passion too.
 
Gerald G said:
I agree with this. He seems to have to do a midfielder's job and a strikers job at the same time and I think it is due to our weak midfield. Especially yesterday with Giggs in it. He was higher up the pitch than Rooney sometimes.

But a brilliant performance form Rooney last night. Love the fight and passion too.
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Its bizarre that the average age of our midfield 2 was 36 last night :P
Agreed loved his celebration towards the end.
 
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