It happens all the time during January/these months
I'm almost certain Mata's was the same.
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It happens all the time during January/these months
I'm almost certain Mata's was the same.
It does.
Exactly, not hard to understand. Mata signed a 4 and half year deal with us. If he'd signed a 4 year one he'd be out of contract halfway through the season in Jan 2018!
He has been, in fact a conversation like this would only happen on a United forum, i know were all bias, but for me only Henry and Ronaldo have come close to Suarez form this season. Rooney is a great player, but for me their is a host of strikers who have had similar seasons to the one he had in 2009/10, in fact in the PL for me Drogba was better that year.
Well there you go. I must not have paid attention to mid-season contract negotiations!
Don't like that we have to keep him but he is really needed right now so I'm pleased with this news. 5 1/2 years is a lot though. Means it runs through 2019 and he'll be 33 at that time. Huge investment, but given how much world class strikers cost these days, it was a good decision.
If thats the case then you have to also take into consideration that against the bigger teams, he spend a lot of the time playing on the right to accommodate Sturridge.
Still the argument about goals is a silly one, if we look at his performances against City, Arsenal etc this season they have been incredible, he hit the post against Arsenal, created an assist and was generally the most creative player on the pitch, same exact thing happened in the Fa Cup, same against City.
Ronaldo and Messi also score the vast majority of their goals against smaller/mid table teams for the record, and they take penalties as well.
The "doesn't score in big games" argument has been aimed at most great strikers over the years, to be fair. Henry, Ruud, Ronaldo, you name it. All strikers will score most of their goals against poor teams and find it harder in games where their team is less dominant.
I do think that Rooney's ability to score big goals in big games is important though. It's hard to explain exactly why it happens but it's a massive plus for any footballer.
I do think that Rooney's ability to score big goals in big games is important though. It's hard to explain exactly why it happens but it's a massive plus for any footballer.
Meh. We've really been completely shat on by Rooney these past few years contract wise. The wage doesn't match up to performances on the pitch... If RvP hands in a transfer request I'll look forward to seeing Mata in behind Rooney next season though. Should be lethal.
In that 09/10 season, i still remember a lot of people complaining about Rooney having lost some of the spark he had in his younger days, Drogba for me was the standout player that season.
My oh my £300k a week. 300,000 pounds a week. Three Hundred Thousand spondoolies a week. My house 3 times a week. 12 years of my pay a week.
Suarez has done nothing in Europe in his career compared to Rooney. He still has it all to prove at that level.
Yeah but i'm talking PL performances.
That's just what we pay him, his sponsors and commercial stuff will be on top of that. Absurd but this is modern football.
The PL is very weak these days. You cant compare what Suarez is doing now to the golden era of Ronaldo,Drogba etc.
Good. Don't care about the past. Don't care about what he's getting paid (even though £300k is unthinkable amounts of money).
He's an asset. He's a very good Premier League player. He is a player players want to play alongside. It's one less player we will lose in the summer because of our tumultuous plight, or however the media are spinning our poor season.
As exciting as Januzaj has been, Rooney has been our best player this season, by some distance. Last season was iffy for him, but I'm glad he's staying.
He's an asset. He's a very good Premier League player. He is a player players want to play alongside. It's one less player we will lose in the summer because of our tumultuous plight, or however the media are spinning our poor season.
As exciting as Januzaj has been, Rooney has been our best player this season, by some distance. Last season was iffy for him, but I'm glad he's staying.
The club will get a lot of that money too, whenever he appears in a United shirt. That's the "image rights" stuff they'll have been arguing about all week.
Footballers do get paid stupid money but the clubs they work for make stupid money too, so it's only fair that the people who deliver the end product get a big chunk to take home with them.
Anyone think we might announce him as the new captain for next season when his new contract is announced?
Yep, my first instinct is that it's preposterous and elevates him in to an echelon of players that I don't think he quite belongs to anymore but then again the club must make so much out of him, he's been really good this season and it's still 100k a week less than what we're paying in interest payments.
Great news. This chapter is behind us hopefully we can enjoy 5 fruitful years with him, now we need o bring a few quality players to play with him.
I'm still hopeful that he'll have a rethink of his life as he approaches the big three oh, sort out his diet, get ridiculously lean and fit and go up another level as a player. Not that I think he's a bad professional but I reckon a bit more discipline in the off-season could see him become as good as anyone out there.
I hope this means Rooney as the main striker and Mata in the number 10 role (sorry Robin)
Is it Woodward or Stretford who has stuck again?
Time will tell if Moyes has the confidence to haul his 300k/week star off when his output calls for it, or dropped outright for that matter. Van Persie's thoughts might be interesting at this moment. those of Europe's agents are probably a good deal easier to predict however.
I wonder how many times this club will be similarly mugged in the summer.
Time will tell if Moyes has the confidence to haul his 300k/week star off when his output calls for it, or dropped outright for that matter. Van Persie's thoughts might be interesting at this moment. those of Europe's agents are probably a good deal easier to predict however.
I wonder how many times this club will be similarly mugged in the summer.
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Regardless of CL footy, we'll have Rooney around next season.
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Great news for the club, really. I'd love to see him retire here.
It's not a flat 300k/week though is it? The BBC article says up to 300k/week, so a lower basic wage with performance related bonuses. Incentive for him to play well then.
This just simply isn't true. 4 of Suarez' 23 PL goals this season have come against teams in the top half, whereas of Ronnie's 22 LL goals this year 10 have come against top half teams. With Messi it's 10 out of 13.
They've also shone in Europe, predictably, and while Suarez hasn't had that chance he has played cup games away at Arsenal and United without making an impact. And yes, it must also be said they play in better teams, but Liverpool, for all their defensive fraility. have scored an outrageous amount of goals this year.
I doubt it's anything like a flat 300k/week. It's in his agents interests to exaggerate the deal, makes him look good. And maybe United don't mind so much that people think they are still spending big.
Great news, really pleased. It sends out a good message that we can keep top players regardless. Sure it's a load of dosh, but he's given many years service to this club already and to have one last bumper contract is not unreasonable, not in this day and age of the football financial world anyway.
Three days after the Madrid match, after all the tabloid nonsense, I posted this:
Either in the summer or early next season he'll sign an extension to 2018. He'll see that out and then return home for the rest of his career. I mean, it's possible he'll stay a little longer than that, but realistically I think he'll want to play for Everton again while he still has something to offer.
I stand by it, except the 2018 part, bit surprised about the extra year.
It would be great if it is done. Big money, but on his day he is a big player for us. It eases the big headache we face this summer. Losing Rooney would emit signs of major cracking, this is his perfect time to leave. Moyes not fully supported by fans and possibly no CL football. Getting him signed is a big positive on and off the pitch.
If this were two summers ago I would be wary. But at the moment he's one of our longest serving players. With a summer coming where we're going to have lots of coming and going, I'm comfy with keeping some consistency in his position. Even if that means in four years time having a player who's being overpaid for their age.
The club won't get any part of the sponsorship money he receives from other parties - Nike being the obvious big one.
The image rights negotiations will be agreeing on a 'suitable' fee for United using his image, i.e. having it plastered all over the megastore etc. That will form a part of the rumoured £300,000.
He'll probably be getting not far short of the same again from Nike, only paid to an offshore company to which he has signed over the ownership of his image rights. Same goes for his weekly salary, I'd wager a good chunk of that is held within an offshore corporate body.
Glad its over and done with, we didn't need another summer of rumours.
He's pretty much nailed on now to make the most appearances ever for a player not from the academy, and will surely be our all-time leading goalscorer. Is there anyone really still willing to trot out the 'will never be a United legend' line?
Does that mean United avoid paying employers national insurance? Its over 2 million a year for somebody on 300k a week.
I hear the argument, but what does it mean in the context of what we are talking about?
That Suarez bottles big games?
It doesn't really prove anything if Suarez doesn't score in a match we win 5-1, but gets an assist and generally goes about creating many more chances and contributing to the team in a positive way, especially when he doesn't even start the game centrally.
For what its worth, if we want to talk about stats this season, Ronaldo has scored 5,6 penalties this season, Suarez has none, if for one happened to take the penalty he won against Arsenal, thats another goal to count against a big team, but it doesn't say anything about his performance. If he wasn't performing against big teams, then the need to bring up that stat would make sense, but for me when you take into consideration that he has been playing off the right in some of our biggest games, and still contributing creatively it works in his favour, i see that as clutching as straws. By the time Suarez reaches 32 games, the amount of games it took Rooney to score 26 goals in 09/10, he probably would have broken the premier league record, as well as statistically prove to be the top 2 most creative players in this league, that for me is beyond anything Rooney has shown for United thus far, but its also above what the likes of Torres was doing for us as well.
In the headlines these kinds of things get lost. United are a business run by a pretty smart bunch of people, armed with probably more lawyers than Rooney/Stretford. It is very likely that the contract is littered with clauses that make up that final number a week. Can see some clauses that will get Rooney more now when he is at his peak, maybe higher bonuses but, towards the end have performance/appearance based incentives that would reduce his overall weekly if he is not playing consistently.
Even with that, in 2 or 3 years time, can almost guarantee there will be some sugar daddy run club that will gladly pay over the odds for Rooney regardless of if he is not at his best or not. This will be a player that will be supremely marketable well into his 30s I think.
Getting him tied down now benefits the club the most. Glad it sounds like it will be done sooner than later.
Yeah, I probably could have worded that better. Rooney won't be the only earn to earn money from sponsorship deals to which his image adds value. That's worth a lot of money to the club too. I don't know how much of the 300k/week paid to him is in return for this benefit for the club but it does help offset the cost of the contract. Which was my main point.
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