Again, not necessarily. If we had to sell rooney, buying a 28 year old for 35m isnt completely unreasonable. It all depends on circumstances.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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It wouldn't, really. It'd cost more than that to sign a worthy replacement and you'd have to pay them a damn sight more than £180k per week.
I'd say you're probably looking at around £40m net transfer fees, plus around probably £250k per week if not more.
I agree, but i thought such figures would have people in fits in this place.
Whatever you think of Stretford, he's damn good at his job. It's crazy that United have put themselves in this situation with Rooney again.
Why do you say that? There is no arguing his world wide appeal regardless of if he is in the top 5 or 10 players even today. No clue how much Drogba and Anelka got to go to China, or Eto at Anzhi but, they got a load of money. You think Rooney who is a lot more marketable at the same age would not command even more?
True that. Rooney's contract obviously reflects market value.The only adjustment likely in the near future is upwards.
Yet more evidence that sugar daddies reckless spending is inflating fees and wages to a ludicrous extent.
Makes you wonder what sort of package we will offer players the calibre of Toni Kroos (I know we won't get him, but you know what I mean) to get them in to a United unlikely to be playing CL football.
This raises a good point actually - it wouldn't surprise me if we have a clause in our players deals whereby they take a cut if we don't qualify for the CL.
£300K a week is obscene. A top-class heart surgeon, who holds peoples lives in his hands every day doesn't get that in a year. I know it's an old and cliched comparison but that kind of money is beyond the ken of most of the population.
True. But compare it with The best paid actors and musicians in the world? They do just as little for society but get paid same amount...have can have much longer careers.
People always moan about how much footballers get paid but others in entertainment industry do too and they dont get the flack
It's clichéd and it's also irrelevant to be honest.
Until surgery is an industry that generates billions of pounds around the globe, with hospitals competing for the best heart surgeons, that is.
Since when did United buy all of its players at the top of the market as opposed to making them world stars once at the club? It would seem that the concept of good scouting and coaching has gone right out of the window. Rooney as a No 10 has more than adequate replacement already, a suitable forward/winger needn't cost 35-50m for crying out loud.
For all that a a short contract for Rooney would have sufficed, unfortunately the weak will of those in authority has let us down.
For all that a a short contract for Rooney would have sufficed, unfortunately the weak will of those in authority has let us down.
I think that may come under performance-related bonuses rather than base salary.
Possibly, but I know for a fact that lower placed clubs always have clauses in their deals whereby a players pay is substantially cut should they be relegated.
I know it's not exactly the same, but the financial implications of missing out of the CL are not to be underestimated, and a base pay related clause wouldn't surprise me.
It would certainly be prudent.
Surgery is an industry, at least in parts of the United States. But you're right; it's irrelevant. I was just venting a bit of spleen about the money being thrown at Rooney. If he wasn't such an unlikeable character, it might not be so bad.
We're 7th and it will take miracles to finish any higher than 6th. The downsides of giving a 28 year old 300k for 5 years are nothing in comparison to losing a world class player at our lowest point in decades.
I'm not his biggest fan by any means, he doesn't deserve that money and I take the point that his decline could well be pretty sharp. But we aren't in the top four, we don't have Fergie as manager and we can't afford the risk of an exodus at a time when most of our top players from previous teams are likely to move on or retire.
I'm not his biggest fan by any means, he doesn't deserve that money and I take the point that his decline could well be pretty sharp. But we aren't in the top four, we don't have Fergie as manager and we can't afford the risk of an exodus at a time when most of our top players from previous teams are likely to move on or retire.
Nah, some would much rather have a go at Moyes, Woodward and the club.
I'm not sure I'd pay money to watch a top-class heart surgeon do his job though... as important as it may be.
Absolutely. And imagine the press next year who will jump on the fact Rooney, Rio, Vidic, Evra, maybe even RVP all gone...it will all be about the 'end of united empire' and it will have a massive effect on the team psychologically
Also, there are more people in the world who have the ability to be a top class surgeon than do what rooney does.
which is quite fortunate actually!
God I hate the argument about real life jobs and their salaries in comparison. Football is its own economy. Theres billions and billions floating around on tv rights, prize money, sponsorships and so on. There is literally no point making the comparison and to be honest people that do just come across as jealous moe than anything else. Money, models, cars, playing football for a living. They are privileged yes, and their job is not as important as a heart surgeon. But leonardo di caprio gets about 40m a film, some supermodels make millions walking about in underwear designed by other people, bloody katie price is worth millions. Its all relative.
Personally I'd sooner pay him 300K a week and have him playing for us than against us.
I think that pretty much says it all really.
I think that pretty much says it all really.
IF we had a guaranteed deal lined up with say PSG I'd flog him off.
Granted it's slightly irrational, but I don't think it's right that the club is being played like this by Wayne's entourage. Every time he kicks up a fuzz and acts like a spoiled brat he's rewarded with an even bigger contract.
He's not one of the world's absolute elite players and shouldn't be anywhere close to those wages compared to a lot of other players.
I'd not want him anywhere near Chelsea, though, which might be his most likely destination if he had decided to leave.
Granted it's slightly irrational, but I don't think it's right that the club is being played like this by Wayne's entourage. Every time he kicks up a fuzz and acts like a spoiled brat he's rewarded with an even bigger contract.
He's not one of the world's absolute elite players and shouldn't be anywhere close to those wages compared to a lot of other players.
I'd not want him anywhere near Chelsea, though, which might be his most likely destination if he had decided to leave.
You would think people would have got used to this thing called 'Capitalism' by now.
I would.
Why? There's better players out there than Wayne Rooney. We have one in our team already actually, arguably 2. The club should always be more important than the player.
Believe me, it's kind of dull.
still to replace him, a huge outlay will be needed. I fully understand your point but player power has increased considerably, especially with the oil money around and with UEFA doing nothing about it
We don't need to replace him though do we? Mata is a better number 10 and rvp is a better striker.
Of course. I said right away that the argument was old and cliched as well as being irrelevant. And, for what it's worth, I detest the celebrity culture that pays Di Caprio and Kate Moss all that money. Jealousy has nothing to do with it.
And not for the squeamish I expect.
You said, some rich club will pay over the odds for Rooney in two-three years time, regardless of his form. I disagree with that.
Rooney doesn't strike me as someone, who will work on his fitness diligently in order to ensure his career longevity, like the likes of Lampard and Giggs did, for example. He's got the last contract of his career and I fully expect him to start taking it easy in a year or two.
Given his wage packet, attitude, fitness issues and age, no club will go anywhere near him in three years, let alone pay over the odds, like you said. He won't have any resale value.
That doesn't mean, it's not a good deal for United, given your current situation, of course. Currently, he's still one of your best players and is essential to your club's ambitions.
Ok then we disagree. If we make it known we are looking to sell him, I think there will be quite a queue.
Yea I only meant strikers, or atleast players that play a comparable role to Rooneys, so basically number 9's and 10's. The rest is very difficult to compare because they play other positions and have other contributions.
I guess Suarez this year is a fair claim, although I still think Rooney in his best form (2009-2010) was better than Suarez, but not much in it ofcourse. One thing I'll say is that Suarez seems to be more consistent than Rooney (atleast until this far in his career). I'd probably say that Rooney steps up more in the bigger games than Suarez does.
If you try to sell him now, then yes, there may be some interest, but no, there won't be a queue. Even last summer, there was only us (Chelsea). Now, a year older, with higher wages, I doubt, there'll be any takers at all.
Ridiculous, lucky to be on 210 odd goals.... I guess SAF has had the same luck to be on the winning side so many years in a row ?
If it happens so often, its not luck. Rooneys contributions are massive to this team, you don't need to like him for it, but denying his contribution and talent is just a ridiculous thing to do.
If he has a good World Cup, I would anticipate interest from Italian clubs. Age doesn't seem to bother them all that much.
Only Ronaldo and Henry might have been better than Suarez (if this season) ever in EPL. 23 goals in 21 games is Ronaldo/Messi type of return. It is quite funny how he can break the record of goals for a season, in a season when he missed 5 games because of the ban. Rooney was good on that season but still I don't think that he has played in Suarez's level.
About big games, I completely agree though. Rooney does very good in big games, better than Suarez for sure.
The chap who says Rooney is lucky to be on 200+ goals. 
He could count himself unlucky in the way he's had to play off the main striker position for a lot of time. That hasn't helped the stats,
He could count himself unlucky in the way he's had to play off the main striker position for a lot of time. That hasn't helped the stats,
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