Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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He's not going to score many goals playing in midfield. Not going to be particularly useful playing there either if we bypass the midfield every time either. Put one of your three best players in the one position in the team that's practically redundant with how we set up. That's useful.

He starts off as a striker in pretty much every game and is anonymous. I'd rather he plays in midfield or at least behind the striker then this fecking 4-4-2 we seem to start every game with.
 
He's not going to score many goals playing in midfield. Not going to be particularly useful playing there either if we bypass the midfield every time either. Put one of your three best players in the one position in the team that's practically redundant with how we set up. That's useful.

Nor we are going to score too many goals with him playing next(and not behind) van Persie. Moyes simply needs to play him behind van Persie, and not alongside him, he probably spent more time in the box in the first 60 minutes than van Persie did. Either that, or move him wide(where I don't like him at all) and play Mata behind van Persie.
 
He isn't having a great season. Hasn't had a truly great season since 2009/10. Was great for half a season 2010/11 and for the first 3 months or so 2011/12. Currently he is not in the top 3 of the attacking palyers in the league, probably not even in top 5.
Is he not? Rooney is having an excellent season. If he maintains his first half of the season form, then I think this will be be regarded as his best season for the club. I was disappointed at Rooney the most in 11/12. After an excellent first couple of months, he wasn't the leader we needed him to be in the second half of the season. His stats were great, but his overall game was sloppy.
 
Is he not? Rooney is having an excellent season. If he maintains his first half of the season form, then I think this will be be regarded as his best season for the club. I was disappointed at Rooney the most in 11/12. After an excellent first couple of months, he wasn't the leader we needed him to be in the second half of the season. His stats were great, but his overall game was sloppy.
Agree i thought he was great for the first half of this season. We know he's a slow starter when coming back from injuries so he's yet to hit that form again.
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.

Ridiculed for this visionary post last summer, now I believe 99% of rational United fans will agree with what I anticipated about Moyes' reign as manager. I will admit, though, that even I did not foresee us having zero chance of a fourth place finish even with Rooney retained and the addition of Mata.

We've fallen so fast. It's astonishing and deathly frightening. I will be 100% in support of Rooney, van Persie, Mata, and whoever else wishes to leave after this season if the club unfathomably decides to persist with Moyes.
 
Agree i thought he was great for the first half of this season. We know he's a slow starter when coming back from injuries so he's yet to hit that form again.
In 2014, he's played as a CM in every game, bar the Cardiff game. One of those games he was playing through injury, too. His productivity isn't going to be great in this regard. Moyes needs to have a defined role for him now and stop moving him about IMO, and then we'll see many goals and assists.

I only just noticed his celebration after Carrick scored. Sums up how committed he has been this season.
 
Rooney has had a great season so far. Love how there's people counting his lack of goals/assists where he's just come back from injury and has had one sub appearance where we were seeing out a game and two starts where he has played a significant amount of time in midfield. Let's forget all the other games this season where he's had the most goals/assists combined for us by some distance? But yeah let's ignore that, he hasn't scored or assisted in his last two starts, doesn't deserve his wages.
 
You nearly want Wayne to act the bastard again and to start questioning the direction the club is taking.
 
I saw his genuine celebration after Carrick's goal but I also saw a player who was rather cool after the game. I hope my initial observation was wrong but I fear he's starting to think about alternatives after a game like this.
 
I thought he was poor today.
I won't judge him after Fletcher went off and he was playing in midfield but he wasn't very good before that imo but given that we're not playing to any of our strikers strengths it's hard to be overly critical. He spread the ball wide then pushed high waiting for the cross and considering it was 6 Fulham players challenging 3 of our players in the box they were never likely to get on the end.
 
I saw his genuine celebration after Carrick's goal but I also saw a player who was rather cool after the game. I hope my initial observation was wrong but I fear he's starting to think about alternatives after a game like this.

He has to be, the manager isn't good enough. He has a chance to get out, hopefully he has some love for the club/fans he has spent most of his adult life at.
 
Ridiculed for this visionary post last summer, now I believe 99% of rational United fans will agree with what I anticipated about Moyes' reign as manager. I will admit, though, that even I did not foresee us having zero chance of a fourth place finish even with Rooney retained and the addition of Mata.

We've fallen so fast. It's astonishing and deathly frightening. I will be 100% in support of Rooney, van Persie, Mata, and whoever else wishes to leave after this season if the club unfathomably decides to persist with Moyes.
Including the part about him alienating Rooney?
 
I'm amazed by the amount of times his first touch lets him down... because other times his first touch will be absolutely immaculate. The range for which it varies on a frequent basis is quite something.
 
I saw his genuine celebration after Carrick's goal but I also saw a player who was rather cool after the game. I hope my initial observation was wrong but I fear he's starting to think about alternatives after a game like this.

Do you blame him?

As much as I'd hate to see it, i certainly would understand if he doesnt extend if things are the same this year. Same with RVP. These are fecking brilliant strikers at the peak of their careers who are being made to have a heading contest with defenders twice their size. Jumping ship isnt a good trait and ofcourse I'd be pissed but a part of me will understand if they want out. We're criminally wasting the kind of attacking players we have.
 
I hope we do sell him if he wants 300k a week. Make Mata our primary playmaker. Rooney's fantastic but he facilitates our dreadful reliance on crossing with his constant long ball to the right. In fact he looks up and passes to the right pretty much all the time. His partnership with RvP is rubbish. Alternatively if RvP wants to leave then we'll need to keep Rooney and make him our main striker. In the long run if Moyes continues to be our manager I think it has to be one or the other, he just has no idea how to get the most out of them other than pepper them with a load of crosses. Mata just might be able to drag us out of this appalling system we have going at the moment.
 
His celebration after Carrick's goal doesn't seem like a celebration he would do if he was planning to leave. Encouraging signs, perhaps?

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He was just joining in with Hodgson's headbanging.
 
Why you gotta ruin something beautiful Steve? :(

:lol: It was just one of my usual, crappy attempts to be funny, Mel...numerous months after Roy actually was headbanging. :D
 
He has a writer that writes his posts for him. SteveJ is all a sham. Only way to explain his excellent one liners.
 
*thinks* Well at least that's two people who don't have me on Ignore...
 
I haven't read Tomalonge's post because I have him on Ignore*



*Not strictly true.
 
His celebration after Carrick's goal doesn't seem like a celebration he would do if he was planning to leave. Encouraging signs, perhaps?

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It was certainly a massive contrast to Swansea at the beginning of the season.
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I do think Rooney is happy enough now. I see him signing the contract and I think he values Moyes' game plan to be honest. Remember Andy Mitten revealed Rooney dragged his heels a bit when Ferguson attempted to transform the side from classic wing play to a more intricate passing game? He'll get the captaincy, £300 grand a week and inside information with regards transfers.
 
His celebration after Carrick's goal doesn't seem like a celebration he would do if he was planning to leave. Encouraging signs, perhaps?

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God fecking damn it, his celebration, Moyes' celebration, all went to feck in 94th minute, how big kick in the balls it must've been.
 
It was certainly a massive contrast to Swansea at the beginning of the season.
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I do think Rooney is happy enough now. I see him signing the contract and I think he values Moyes' game plan to be honest. Remember Andy Mitten revealed Rooney dragged his heels a bit when Ferguson attempted to transform the side from classic wing play to a more intricate passing game? He'll get the captaincy, £300 grand a week and inside information with regards transfers.

In other words, bending over backwards for him?
 
Seeing his celebrations and Moyes' again today saddens me that we were a Vidic clearance away from a vital, well earned win.
 
yes..haven't seen that is some time. Negotiations must be going well....:)

Must be - just seen that his Facebook cover photo has been updated with a pic of him celebrating what must have been a goal in the blue away kit.
 
I want him to sign a new contract now more than ever before. Given the situation the thought of losing him now is genuinely starting to scare me.
 
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