On this day, three years ago 
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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45 minute demonstration of why he shouldn't be captain.
Expected more from him tonight. With the exception of his amazing pass for Van Persie, he was poor. I expected him to do better in that last counter-attack.
Bar that pass, he was complete garbage.
He is just so poor at dribbling the ball, I never thought anything would come of that break late on.
Absolutely useless today.
Bar that one pass of course.
Bar that one pass of course.
For that last chance, I was disappointed just as much in Van Persie for not offering Rooney an extra passing option.
He's been garbage since he came back from injury.
Works hard and all but in the final third hes lacked the killer touch.
Works hard and all but in the final third hes lacked the killer touch.
Thought he was very very poor bar the one pass. He gave the ball away a lot and looked clumsy trying to dribble (though he was beating men at times).
Needs to sharpen up during this run in and it goes to show how much we miss his influence when he isn't performing because Mata is new and was clearly uncomfortable today and our wingers aren't creative.
Needs to sharpen up during this run in and it goes to show how much we miss his influence when he isn't performing because Mata is new and was clearly uncomfortable today and our wingers aren't creative.
On this day, three years ago
I was there
One of my favourite days ever. Complete madness.I was there
What was that sound just before Rooney hit the ball?
Looked angry and confused, especially when he turned up on the edge of his own box and lost the ball a couple of times
Not quite sure what you mean...? It did feel like total slow motion when it happened.
This is why we shouldnt ever bend for him. He always does this and will continue for the rest of his career. The most inconsistent top player ever.
I said few weeks ago that I was surprised his good form lasted that long. He isn't 300k pw player, especially now that we brought Mata who will hopefully prove he can be better number 10 for us than Rooney is.
Somebody whistled right as it got crossed in, such a distinct whistle too
2nd game in a row where he's underperformed - but where Fulham there was a lot of work and desire, today there was a bit more shouting and general anger...
His decision making seemed a bit off today as well, which is a bit unlike Wayne really.
His decision making seemed a bit off today as well, which is a bit unlike Wayne really.
SAF always used to say that Rooney is terrible when he comes back from an injury and needs a lot of games to gain some sort of form.
Absolutely rubbish yesterday - our worst player on the pitch. He is not a good number ten at all. He can still turn up with those vital moments like that pass to RVP, but he could easily have cost us a goal or two yesterday with his sloppy possession.
He is not captain material at all, not worth 300,000 pounds per week, and imo we would improve the team by playing Mata in the 10 position instead of Rooney.
He is not captain material at all, not worth 300,000 pounds per week, and imo we would improve the team by playing Mata in the 10 position instead of Rooney.
Too clumsy on the ball to play in the hole. He gets away with it when he's on top form but right now he isn't
One thing that annoys me about the criticism Rooney gets is regarding his pinging passes to the wings. People slate it, yet I saw no one complaining when Scholes was doing it for fun.
Scholes was better at it, that's why.
Made a quick comp. All of Rooney's 19 assists this season (no replays):
Nice one mate good job.
Because Scholes would be in his own half starting the attack and would move the ball wherever the opponents are weakest at that point. Rooney does it from the opponent's half when we're already camped outside their box and he only does it out on to the right wing. Never ever the left. This would be great if we had Messi on the right wing. We have Valencia
Scholes was always deeper and facing the correct way for a pass. Rooney comes deep and takes forever to trap the ball and turn on it. He hasn't made his mind up by then so the defence can face up the wingers with time to spare
Some class football in that comp. Makes a lie of this idea that all Rooney can do is ping the ball out wide.
Also a painful reminded of how much his form has dipped since that injury.
How about we sort the rest of the team out before we start blaming our best players? I'll refuse to blame him or RVP untill we start to see players worthy of the red shirt playing alongside them week in week out. How are you as an attacker expected to star when you're feeding on scraps the whole game? Compare that to the sort of service that the likes of Negredo and Aguero feast on then you'll see why our star players' form has been irregular this season.
Back from injury........ garbage performances, rinse repeat. Reading newspapers this week, talking about Rooney and England, 300k, etc, etc, it made me realise Wayne Rooney may actually be the most overrated player on the planet right now.
We shouldn't offer him this supposed 300k a week because it would put him on a salary scale with players far superior to him.
Keep him by all means but we should play hard ball, not bend over again, he really isn't that good.
We shouldn't offer him this supposed 300k a week because it would put him on a salary scale with players far superior to him.
Keep him by all means but we should play hard ball, not bend over again, he really isn't that good.
There are plenty of GIFs from this season which show him producing some absolute gems to Valencia, despite this supposedly "slow time to turn". I believe it was against Villa in which he produced a Scholes-like performance in terms of passing.
His slow turning is just one reason why it doesn't work to its full potential, the whole logic of it just stinks. He's a forward who drops so deep that he makes midfield passes to a winger. Sure that means that there's at most one player in the box (usually RVP). If we had an actual midfielder who could pass in such a manner then we'd be sorted. One way or another its Rooney being in the wrong place, Mata should be in his position while he plays forward or midfield. He can't keep trying both simultaneously.
Thanks.
He's not been great in 2014, but he's been played out of position (central midfield in every game bar the Arsenal game) and played with an injury against Tottenham to be fair to him. I really hope he has an excellent second half to match his excellent first half of the season. Re ping the ball wide argument: I think it's a poor argument and I agree with you. This season especially, I think it's definitely to do with how we play.
What is the name of the instrumental ?
I've had no pb with Rooney all season except maybe the last few games (when he came back from injury) and how he started spending more time further up the pitch. Utd play much better with him picking up the ball from the midfielders and spraying it around. It does us no good when he doesn't do that, his own performances get much better when he plays like that. He's much more dangerous like that.
People forget he's also leading the assists chart in the league with 9 assists. He was by far our best player in the first half of this season. Hope he gets back to his best soon.
It's so predictable. 2 below par games after injury and suddenly he's shit and inconsistent again. It'll be hilarious when he's captain and signs the new deal. Can't imagine how angry and frustrated some people on here would be who just look for reasons to hate Rooney. Can't wait
Too much sense for this thread.
People argued that this was perhaps Rooney's best season up until Christmas. Compare his performances with that of Suarez, Ronaldo, Messi and even Aguero and still argue that he is in that very top bracket. Imo, there is quite a gap between him and that class.
Admittedly, I think his performances in the autumn were a little overrated. Sure, he has the stats to back him up, but his short passing and close technique were still too inconsistent, and his become increasingly more so. As a striker, he is probably close to world class, if not amongst the very best, but as a number ten I just don't think he is.
Admittedly, I think his performances in the autumn were a little overrated. Sure, he has the stats to back him up, but his short passing and close technique were still too inconsistent, and his become increasingly more so. As a striker, he is probably close to world class, if not amongst the very best, but as a number ten I just don't think he is.
United have a better number 9 in Van Persie and a better number 10 in Mata. Assuming Van Persie will finish his career here, Rooney should be used as back up to both, or as one of the advanced midfielder against weaker opposition.
why would you assume this when there's already a lot of whispers about not getting on with Moyes, and the fact he's barely looked 100% fit and interested all season.
And there's a few stories of back to Arsenal in the summer starting up
He hasn't found his form yet post injury but he is still showing more fight and desire than anyone else in the squad at the moment
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