Utd spent 24m on a 29 year old RVP. PSG paid about 18m for Ibra. If he signs this contract I expect he'll retire here.
But in terms of how these deals work, its all on paper and all this sort of stuff comes into it.
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Utd spent 24m on a 29 year old RVP. PSG paid about 18m for Ibra. If he signs this contract I expect he'll retire here.
But in terms of how these deals work, its all on paper and all this sort of stuff comes into it.
Mind boggling, but players at this end of things aren't individuals anymore, they're companies in and of their own right. Its not just about what they do on the pitch, its all about marketing and spreadsheets, commercial appeal yaddayaddayadda...
'dey say e. is. a. legend'.... worth half a mil on its own that!
The media has very quickly gone from suggesting he'd be getting a new and slightly improved contract, a suggestion of our transfer targets and might be awarded the captaincy to this:
Many of you are being played for fools by the hostile press, yet again.
If the club makes a grand fuss about Wayne signing a new contract, that will be telling; if, however, it's announced merely with a club statement, then that too will be significant - perhaps this would clue us in about Wayne's departure (in the near future).
I just don't know who to be angry at.
The Sun tells me I should be pissed at rooney, the telegraph says it should be the club.
I'm just pissed off at the media, wish they'd shut the feck up
The Sun tells me I should be pissed at rooney, the telegraph says it should be the club.
I'm just pissed off at the media, wish they'd shut the feck up
Seriously, the 'papers might as well employ fans & amateur bloggers if the above is the standard required. Even if you agree with what is written, it's nevertheless slanted and 'emotional' (always good for clicks, that technique). What a land of barrow boys and professional gobshites this country has become.
Anyone think he is making demands he believes will not be met in order to force the move? Not sure there is much motive to do that, he can force the move by simply saying no or saying nothing. But if the demands about being the captain are true... I dont know. It just seems like a very strange thing to be demanding.
That almost rhymes. You could make a rap.
I've got more Flo than Tore André.
Its one thing being told that the club is going to spend and bring in top quality and quite another for him to be the one demanding guarantees and wanting to play a part in who we sign etc. Why are people so willing to trust the media?
Its come to a stage now where most of us agree that if he's staying, he's the best man for the armband but if he's made captain, will criticize the move nonetheless.
I'd be very happy if we got him tied down to a 4 year contract at 300k a week.
Its come to a stage now where most of us agree that if he's staying, he's the best man for the armband but if he's made captain, will criticize the move nonetheless.
I'd be very happy if we got him tied down to a 4 year contract at 300k a week.
It's (potentially) very lucrative, commercially - John Terry's reps got into trouble for trying to attract personal sponsors by once using 'Chelsea & England Captain' as a lure in their campaign on his behalf.
It's so utterly ridiculous. There's absolutely no way he'll be given any sort of say in transfers. What he'll probably have gotten - and I expect it was the same last time, even if they haven't admitted it - is an outline of where the club is going and what they're trying to do going forward. Again I doubt that's as detailed as naming individual players, unless they're already on their way in.
Are you suggesting that another improved contract, inside info on what we're doing in the transfer market and the captains armband isn't bending over for Wayne Rooney? It might not be 300k a week but that doesn't mean its okay.
Btw, I really do despise fatty at times and especially his wanker agent.
I mean it would be good for the club to sign him on and there's no doubting his abilities as a player but he is a shameless, disrespectful cnut.
I mean it would be good for the club to sign him on and there's no doubting his abilities as a player but he is a shameless, disrespectful cnut.
Yep. For better or worse, Moyes seems to have adopted a conciliatory approach with Rooney. Only time will tell if this approach benefits all parties....or otherwise.
If its true it has Stretford's fingerprints all over it. On the basis that I always assume any excessively greedy and conniving behaviour from the Rooney camp is driven by Stretford. It just goes to show, there is no such thing as "enough money". I mean, how much more marketable does he need to make himself? With a contract worth in excess of £50m on the table, does he really need to start quibbling about these things on the margins that might make him a few extra million?
A week ago I was convinced he wanted out, which is perhaps why it occurs to me, as I said just above, maybe he is trying to force his move by making demands he doesnt believe will be met.
And yet the only faction of football supporters that will contradict the apparent gobshites are those of Manchester United. The rest of the country will agree with that entirely.
I'm past caring about the Rooney saga and was at that point months and months ago. If he stays then great, if he goes then fair enough. The contract is obscene, but so is modern day football. I don't care about his wages. The transfer thing isn't all that bad - I'd like to think such information would extend to other players in these difficult times. Of course we should be letting our lads know we mean business. The captaincy, however, is too far. The guy is an arsehole, inherently immature and the decision would set a very bad precedent. "Come to United, act like a cnut, call our greatest manager ever a liar via Neil Ashton, milk us dry... and this is what you've won!" No chance.
I'm past caring about the Rooney saga and was at that point months and months ago. If he stays then great, if he goes then fair enough. The contract is obscene, but so is modern day football. I don't care about his wages. The transfer thing isn't all that bad - I'd like to think such information would extend to other players in these difficult times. Of course we should be letting our lads know we mean business. The captaincy, however, is too far. The guy is an arsehole, inherently immature and the decision would set a very bad precedent. "Come to United, act like a cnut, call our greatest manager ever a liar via Neil Ashton, milk us dry... and this is what you've won!" No chance.
feck it lets all get wound up and bitchy about bullshit spouted by the gutter press.
anyway it is pure speculation , nobody knows for sure what the offer is, but what ever it is it is too much, he sould of been sold the first time he held us to ransom, the board agreed to his demands and now he is trying it again, would not of happened if SAF was still manager, I would sell the fat arse now, just sends out a bad message to other players , act like a cock and hold the club to ransom and you get a massive new contract, just because he was playing well does not mean you can demand what you want
I think we should let Rooney pick some of the players, it'd be hilarious.
He'd probably just walk into Moyes office with a comic book and demand we buy Captain America.
He'd probably just walk into Moyes office with a comic book and demand we buy Captain America.
He's only going to be made captain because he's the obvious senior player. The only other players who always start when fit are Rafa, De Gea, Jones, and Van Persie . The first three are too young and RVP has been here about a week. Jonny is edging towards playing every single match, and if I were boss I would have named him captain already, but I'm not sure if Moyes sees him as undroppable.
There's no credible suggestion he's demanded any of these things, and in particular the transfer thing is transparently a negotiating tool. We want him to stay, and one method we have to convince him is to explain how the club plans to move forward in the transfer market. I bet it happens all the time, especially with players who've fretted about their club's ambition in the past.
There's no credible suggestion he's demanded any of these things, and in particular the transfer thing is transparently a negotiating tool. We want him to stay, and one method we have to convince him is to explain how the club plans to move forward in the transfer market. I bet it happens all the time, especially with players who've fretted about their club's ambition in the past.
I wouldn't put anything past Stretford but as Chabon said, the transfers thing sounds like it's more likely to be a case of providing assurances we are as committed to getting back to the top as he is (as opposed to aiming for a cheaper, remaining in the top 4 strategy). The captain thing I just don't believe, or I think Moyes told him if he stays he'll make him captain, but it's morphed like a game of Chinese Whispers.
Fergie trained him for almost 10 years, and he said he doubt Rooney can play well in his 30s(he actually said he doubted he will play, let alone stay on highest level), but people find laughable that some of us think he won't be worth 300k in three years:
So, are we pissed off Mata has been let in on the loop regarding potential transfers too?
Just to sway the topic a little, here's a snippet from an article, written by a Sky Sports journo, regarding Rooney, and United's "decline".
Not sure if serious.
We're not rich enough to compete with the big boys, allegedly, but then Moyes is criticised for breaking our transfer record, which wasn't really that high, considering we are factually one of the biggest clubs on earth in terms of worth and revenue.
Claiming we are not successful enough 5 months into a title defence is completely bonkers as well. But in the same article, he also agrees that Wenger was right to complain about the timing of the Mata move, so it probably just further proves that he's a bit of a wally anyway.
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/24685/9136178/Monday-Moan-Roo-highlights-United-fall
Not sure if serious.
We're not rich enough to compete with the big boys, allegedly, but then Moyes is criticised for breaking our transfer record, which wasn't really that high, considering we are factually one of the biggest clubs on earth in terms of worth and revenue.
Claiming we are not successful enough 5 months into a title defence is completely bonkers as well. But in the same article, he also agrees that Wenger was right to complain about the timing of the Mata move, so it probably just further proves that he's a bit of a wally anyway.
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/24685/9136178/Monday-Moan-Roo-highlights-United-fall
Any word on how it's been since he started running the training sessions?
Heard Mata's his assistant now.
I don't think the club should ever bow down to ridiculous demands. But given the landscape of football, Ronaldo is maybe worth what we are alleged to be offering Rooney. If Rooney is worth 300k, then so is van Persie and everyone else of that quality we may bring in. Also, you may factor in the professionalism of players also... Ronaldo does not need any extra encouragement to keep himself fit, his conduct matches his ambition. He is in a totally different league from Rooney both in terms of ability and application.
Rooney is the half-way point between Ronaldo and Gazza in terms of what he could have made of himself IMV.
Hilarious.
Who wrote that? They're incredibly misinformed.
It's a quote from the article posted in post #29084.
Would be interesting to see yet another poll, this one on whether people would be comfortable with Rooney staying on the terms we have seen reported, however spurious those reports might be. A week or so ago it felt like there were a lot of posts saying we should do whatever it takes to keep him. Now we are seeing what that might actually look like it feels like the consensus is against it. Its probably quite an even split.
I guess the arrival of Mata does make the possible loss of Rooney a little more palatable as well.
I guess the arrival of Mata does make the possible loss of Rooney a little more palatable as well.
Even Mata said he knows there will be big signings in the summer. He's also doubled his wages by coming to United. He's one captaincy away from joining Rooney on the hate list!
Just read it. The author is talking shite.
Yeah, pretty much.
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Story seems to be gathering Twitter legs, but it's not Rooney demanding say on transfers, naming targets etc. Still an unusual one, clearly
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To re-iterate, Rooney has been informed about transfer business, vision etc - that's NOT same as demanding influence, choosing players
He has signed on condition he'll be made vice captain.
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