True but if that was the case we could just tell him to feck off.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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True but if that was the case we could just tell him to feck off.
It's the way of the world these days. Keane and Rio definitely played similar games to get the contracts they wanted.
At the end of the day though, these players may be a bit thick, but they're not thick enough to realise they have it pretty darn good at our place.
Signing Mata and keeping Rooney would be a marvellous transfer window.
At the end of the day though, these players may be a bit thick, but they're not thick enough to realise they have it pretty darn good at our place.
Signing Mata and keeping Rooney would be a marvellous transfer window.
Keeping Rooney in the summer was also called things such as brilliant. I wonder if every window we hold on to him is going to be considered an achievement for Moyes.
Rooney's been our top performer this year.
Would we even be 7th if he hadn't been?
Would we even be 7th if he hadn't been?
Don't care what wages we offer him. It's important that he stays and Moyes is getting the best out of him. The papers have no clue what he's earning currently either. The Guardian alone quoted 180k pw when he signed the contract to nearly 300k pw last summer. I posted on it here: Wayne Rooney
I know. I'm pretty sure he won't be on 300k a week if he signs a new contract. They really don't have a clue like you say. I'd be delighted if Rooney signs a new contract and we sign Mata.
Who cares about wages?
Give him what we have to and make him captain if we have to. Get Woodward to massage his fecking feet and Moyes to rub his head with his wrinkly Scottish buttcheeks, he's our best player, make it happen.
Give him what we have to and make him captain if we have to. Get Woodward to massage his fecking feet and Moyes to rub his head with his wrinkly Scottish buttcheeks, he's our best player, make it happen.
Give him 900k. Give him soldiers wages. All the soldiers in the world.
300K X 52=£15.6mil a year.
Employers National insurance contribution is around £2.5mil
So Rooney cost the club £18.1mil a year roughly.
Thats more than 10% of the wage bill. I find that very hard to believe.
Employers National insurance contribution is around £2.5mil
So Rooney cost the club £18.1mil a year roughly.
Thats more than 10% of the wage bill. I find that very hard to believe.
Just get him signed on to a new contract, he's quality and I'd hate to see him at Chelsea.
Times that by two if the rumour about RVP is true.
I doubt it's all wages, some of it maybe anticipated bonuses (like that CL qualification clause we read about), some of it may for marketing duties etc.
£300k though. Hmmm OK, a bit more than Iniesta and Bale are on. Neymar's wages, if you include the buyout of his "free agent in 2014" rights are a bit higher. In terms of importance to us I'd argue that he's worth it. The numbers for footballer pay etc make painful reading, but if we talk about the actual going rate for top players, it's not far off.
£300k though. Hmmm OK, a bit more than Iniesta and Bale are on. Neymar's wages, if you include the buyout of his "free agent in 2014" rights are a bit higher. In terms of importance to us I'd argue that he's worth it. The numbers for footballer pay etc make painful reading, but if we talk about the actual going rate for top players, it's not far off.
Don't care what he makes, I just want him to sign.
Woodward can go sign up an official vacuum cleaner of Borneo to pay for it.
Woodward can go sign up an official vacuum cleaner of Borneo to pay for it.
If it's one think the Glazers know, it's money. If they're offering him 300k a week, its the right amount.
Unlike goals, assists are vague entities. There are different criteria for assists. Besides, assists are not a good criterion of creativity. Otherwise, one should believe that Rooney is 5 times the player that Iniesta is this season for Iniesta has only 4 assists so far. Do you think that Rooney is a more creative player than Iniesta? Surely, Rooney is quite good at taking corners and set pieces which partly explains his assists stats but I very much doubt that he is one of the most creative players in the world.
If we actually get him to sign, all we'd have to do is actually win a game to make this a fantastic week!
If he signs a contract he'll place himself back in the 'all time great' category, for me.
I have to agree with this. I can completely understand the hate he receieved through wanting to leave, but it's not like it's the first time that a player has clashed with Fergie is it? He's less than 50 goals away from Bobby Charlton's record, beat that and he will go down as an all time great no matter what.
I have been thinking about that, but part of that is our fault. Think if this were 2008 when we started the year with Saha, Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldo, Nani, and Giggs. Rooney wants to go then and there... who cares. In fact we signed Berbatov the next year and strengthened the squad even more. No way for a playrt o blackmail us as it was obvious to all the quality all over the pitch to include the bench...
We have let ourselves slip to then point where a big name is too important to us. I hope we resign Rooney and in fact some some more big name players. If we want to compete with the best we need a side of quality. Bottom line is I think it is our fault Rooney is in that position and I hope we fix it.
Very surprising that he'd be willing to sign a deal in Jan when qualification for the UCL isn't a guarantee.
Had he held out till the summer he'd have held all the cards. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a release clause inserted somewhere in that contract. All in all it would be positive for the club eventhough I can't stand him.
Had he held out till the summer he'd have held all the cards. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a release clause inserted somewhere in that contract. All in all it would be positive for the club eventhough I can't stand him.
if we keep Rooney, its like signing a top player. a quality defender....perhaps Shaw and a solid defensive midfielder and we should be good.
He was always going to stay. The club showing ambition with signing players must also have been a big factor.
Perhaps he genuinely does want to be at this club, he wants to beat Charlton's record and he's settled in the area with his wife and kids.
It could be easier for them to get a deal with United while we still could get Champions League Football. If they sit down when it's off the cards then all of a sudden it becomes clear that it is indeed his wish to stay and negotiations are in United's favour.
If he signs a new contract it's very hard to see him not being our all-time top scorer.
would be great to extend him. now we need to look at signing a couple of defenders that can actually defend.
Seriously? Rooney will never go down as an 'all time great' for me, regardless of whether he beats Bobby Charlton's record. Some things are more important than statistics. He's a sulky, petulant and pampered character with an over-inflated opinion of himself, who has demonstrated he cares more about money than he does about the club. I'd also agree with the earlier poster who suspects he's a bad influence, especially if any of the rumours coming out of the club are to be believed. The thought of him being spoken of in the same breath as Sir Bobby is just wrong.
I'm not Wayne's biggest fan but for all we know Sir Bobby haggled us for more money, different era of football we're in now. It is extremely rare to have a player at a club for over a decade. Do you think Ronaldo's flirtations in the summer just gone will mean he won't go down as a Madrid legend? You have to understand the modern game, we shouldn't be making comparisons to players from forty odd years ago!
Signing Mata, extending with Rooney & landing one or two more players before the end of January, would definitely make up for the embarassing summer we all had to endure.
If Rooney beat the records....of course he will be a Legend here.
The game has changed so much from those days. I'm just glad he will be here for the remainder of his playing days...hopefully.
The game has changed so much from those days. I'm just glad he will be here for the remainder of his playing days...hopefully.
George best was hardly a very professional player, Denis law played for city after us, same with schmeichel. Rio missed more then half a year because he missed a drug test, same with cantona because he kicked a fan.
Rooney's actually going to stay here his whole career, and on the pitch his commitment has never been in question. Who really cares if he haggled for more money occasionally, every player does it. Last season he wanted out cause fergie was misusing him, he wasn't seen as a key player and would have obviously wanted to go somewhere where he's first name on the team sheet. He's not a sulky player, at a time where the club is going to shit he was the only one who gave his all, basically playing 3 positions at the same time and been genuinely world class this season. Some fans I guess just can't appreciate world class players and would prefer to hold petty grudges over matters which don't concern them (as in his contract). It's not like he was unprofessional in the summer, he never once came out and said anything until it was done and then explained why he wanted to go, and it was a pretty reasonable reason.
Football is suddenly all good again. Now let's go unbeaten for the rest of the season
Holding the club to ransom. It's seen as such a dastardly thing. A player in position of power doing what they need to get the most of they think they deserve.
In the flip side the club when they cast aside players because they are not good enough or hit a certain age so they only will get 1 year contracts depsite giving all to the club for years. When the club is in a position of power and able to get the better end then it's ok?
Neither IMO is bad. It's a business. Loyalty when negotiating contracts is a rarity from clubs and players. It's very naive and unrealistic to expect clubs and players to not get the best possible deal from their point of view.
In the flip side the club when they cast aside players because they are not good enough or hit a certain age so they only will get 1 year contracts depsite giving all to the club for years. When the club is in a position of power and able to get the better end then it's ok?
Neither IMO is bad. It's a business. Loyalty when negotiating contracts is a rarity from clubs and players. It's very naive and unrealistic to expect clubs and players to not get the best possible deal from their point of view.
Good post, it doesn't really matter what posters like elisha27 think, Rooney will go down as a United legend if he ends his career with us whether they like it or not.
Our club already considers him a United legend anyway.
http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/Legends.aspx
People are chatting as if Rooney has the club at gun point and forcing them to give him a £300,000 contract. Seriously, feck off.
The club have every right to say no to his demands. But the club obviously recognizes how vital he is to us. I don't think some of you realise where we'd be without him.
It's hard to say anyone deserves that type of money, but in footballing terms, he deserves it. He should break Sir Bobby's record in a few years.
The club have every right to say no to his demands. But the club obviously recognizes how vital he is to us. I don't think some of you realise where we'd be without him.
It's hard to say anyone deserves that type of money, but in footballing terms, he deserves it. He should break Sir Bobby's record in a few years.
Or perhaps they offered him £300k p/w.
Genuinely hope this 300k a week thing is bullshit.
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