Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Keeping Rooney is essential, he's been our most important player for years.

People try and argue that, or get caught up in the classic "of the moment" hype of a VP or someone, but Rooney always comes back and shows it.

Get Rooney and VP back, get Mata integrated, and there's no reason at all we can't get 4th.

And now Moyes has backed his big talk with real intent, the summer might well be quite exciting.
 
UnofficialDevil said:
Good post, it doesn't really matter what posters like elisha27 think, Rooney will go down as a United legend if he ends his career with us whether they like it or not.

Our club already considers him a United legend anyway.

http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/Legends.aspx
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True. All those who consider players as slaves and behave like they 'own' players can keep crying as much as they want. What matters is, whenever Roney has stepped on pitch, he has tried to give 100%, has been most crucial part of our last 10 years and has already done enough for club to be considered among club legends. The things like requesting for transfer etc mean feck all. I wonder how many here who blame him for 'no loyalty' would not jump on chance of working for a rival company in their field if offered big wages and if they are not happy at their job. Doubt how much 'loyalty' thought will cross their minds.
 
I hope we put him on an incentive based contract. If not, we could end up looking foolish in a couple of years.
 
Get mata to whisper sweet nothings in his ear about signing on, nobody can resist a bit of soft talking sexy mata. He will have Rooney like putty in his hands.
 
Ofcourse he's going to go down as a legend at this club and he doesn't even need to break Sir Bobby's record for that.
 
Point one: if he signs it will be in spite of new signings not because of them, last season showed his attitude to competition, what he really wants is competition for places except his

Point two: players wages are none of our business? Say that when the club has a few players on a million a week in ten years and a match ticket costs £150 and sky sports is a couple of grand a year, where do you think this money comes from? The wages fairy?

That being said, if we are going to pay any player that sort if money a fit motivated and dedicated Rooney would be one of the few you could at least attempt to justify it for.
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
That being said, if we are going to pay any player that sort if money a fit motivated and dedicated Rooney would be one of the few you could at least attempt to justify it for.
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Alas, we're gambling on this. He may well go back to not being arsed, once he no longer has a new contract to play for.
 
Sir A1ex said:
TBF, he was never playing for a contract. WE always wanted him to sign.
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I find it hard to believe we would've offered him a pay rise at the end of last season, given his performances. He needed to play well this season to get anything like the terms being suggested.
 
Might be different this time. This time signing of a new deal will be a sign he's finally happy at the club again.
 
I love how, as a fan base, we can concurrently hold the opinion that we don't spend enough on the first team and yet also complain about how much half the squad are paid.
 
Plugsy said:
I love how, as a fan base, we can concurrently hold the opinion that we don't spend enough on the first team and yet also complain about how much half the squad are paid.
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It's not just utd, nobody on earth is worth 300000 a week for playing football
 
Since when has Rooney not been arsed on the pitch? Unfit maybe, but never not arsed!
 
Plugsy said:
I love how, as a fan base, we can concurrently hold the opinion that we don't spend enough on the first team and yet also complain about how much half the squad are paid.
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I just feel that a 5 year deal on more than 250k is just insane at this stage of his career. I'd rather we sell him in the summer and invest the money elsewhere. Controversial opinion especially given his form but the numbers are too high.
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
It's not just utd, nobody on earth is worth 300000 a week for playing football
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Why not?

If I was a world class singer and I could get 40,000 people 3 nights a week to hear me or by band perform, I'd get the revenue that's accordingly owed. Doesn't mean singing is worth £11m for a 15 date tour, but that's market forces.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
Alas, we're gambling on this. He may well go back to not being arsed, once he no longer has a new contract to play for.
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When was Rooney 'not being arsed'?

He's really only had one sort of bad season in ten years. He's pretty much always one of the most hard working and dedicated players on the pitch. If he signs a new deal we are seriously heading in the right direction by keeping our top stars at their prime whilst buying more in rather than losing them.
 
Hellboy said:
A 32 year old Rooney on 300k, I don't know.
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At 32, he might be expensive but to have him till then, i.e his prime years, 300k is what we gotta pay.

In any case, if the money men at United think they can get away with paying him that amount of money, we really dont need to bother.
 
Irwinwastheking said:
When was Rooney 'not being arsed'?

He's really only had one sort of bad season in ten years. He's pretty much always one of the most hard working and dedicated players on the pitch. If he signs a new deal we are seriously heading in the right direction by keeping our top stars at their prime whilst buying more in rather than losing them.
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End of last season. I forget the games in particular but on a few occasions the general consensus here at the time was he did not seem remotely bothered.
 
Not too far ago, we were fretting how we'd "definitely" lose Rooney, and feared VP, and all the key players would be off.

Now we're signing Mata, a good chance Rooney is staying on, and the promise of better signings in the summer.

For one average season we might not be in too bad a place going forward, IF we can get that 4th
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
Surely for a professional footballer to be unfit IS not being arsed?
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You a fitness and motivation specialist? Some players find it harder to maintain weight and fitnss and really the only time he was repeatedly unfit was coming back from injuries or the start of the season.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
End of last season. I forget the games in particular but on a few occasions the general consensus here at the time was he did not seem remotely bothered.
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Ahh but that was big bad safs fault for not kissing his area enough and playing him while unfit, couldn't possibly be at Wayne's fault
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
End of last season. I forget the games in particular but on a few occasions the general consensus here at the time was he did not seem remotely bothered.
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That's the one season I referred to. TBF to him, relations with the manager at the time were at an all time low and I'm sure prior to Fergie retiring he was pretty much sure he was going. One spell in ten years considering the circumstances isn't too bad.
 
Irwinwastheking said:
You a fitness and motivation specialist? Some players find it harder to maintain weight and fitnss and really the only time he was repeatedly unfit was coming back from injuries or the start of the season.
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There have been more seasons where he has clearly come back after the summer overweight and unfit than where he hasn't, let's not attempt to rewrite history here, it is so much a fact rafa should say it. That is unprofessional, look at giggs, that's how a pro maintains his body during the off season.
 
Irwinwastheking said:
That's the one season I referred to. TBF to him, relations with the manager at the time were at an all time low and I'm sure prior to Fergie retiring he was pretty much sure he was going. One spell in ten years considering the circumstances isn't too bad.
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It's enough to make me worry, personally. That at the point he no longer had any real financial incentive to bother for us, as he'd decided he was leaving, the on pitch commitment seemed to fall significantly.
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
There have been more seasons where he has clearly come back after the summer overweight and unfit than where he hasn't, let's not attempt to rewrite history here, it is so much a fact rafa should say it. That is unprofessional, look at giggs, that's how a pro maintains his body during the off season.
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Are you even reading what I'm posting? You said I was attempting to rewrite history by not saying he was unfit in pre-season while quoting a post in which I said...

the only time he was repeatedly unfit was coming back from injuries or the start of the season.
 
Irwinwastheking said:
Who's saying that? Pure hyperbole bollocks man.
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There were more than one or two making that excuse during the summer. He is being played out of position, he was dropped for the Madrid game blah blah , he was unfit and finally got treated like everyone else and threw his toys out about it. Don't get me wrong, despite my personal dislike of him, the Rooney of this season has really won me over, I just get frustrated by how many people seem to remember him being like this for his whole ten years here which is clearly bollocks
 
Irwinwastheking said:
Are you even reading what I'm posting? You said I was attempting to rewrite history by not saying he was unfit in pre-season while quoting a post in which I said...

the only time he was repeatedly unfit was coming back from injuries or the start of the season.
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Yes, and what I'm saying is that is unprofessional.
 
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