August to jan 2010?
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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I'm personally not the biggest fan of extending his contract, especially now I would much rather see Mata in that position behind the striker and RvP is just better then Rooney and having a Rooney on 300k p/w to be backup for Mata and RvP is a bit expensive imo. I say we try to sell him abroad next summer and if there is no way around it I would even let him go to Chelsea. We don't really need him anymore despite him being a top player we all know that this can very fast turn to shit as soon as he has some off the field trouble occupying his toughts and with someone like him it's just a matter of time before the shit hits the fan again.
What is it about Rooney that makes people think he won't be any good past 31?
He hasn't relied on pace since he was 22/23 (5 years ago
), He's got an incredible football brain, great vision, great movement and can hit a pass sweetly.
He's going to give us 3 years as a striker now Mata has signed up and hopefully score a bucket load of goals and then as he starts to slow down, he'll drop deeper and deeper and he'll be happy to do that because he knows he's not "wasting the peak of his career" out of position, he's merely prolonging his career at the top level.
He hasn't relied on pace since he was 22/23 (5 years ago
), He's got an incredible football brain, great vision, great movement and can hit a pass sweetly. He's going to give us 3 years as a striker now Mata has signed up and hopefully score a bucket load of goals and then as he starts to slow down, he'll drop deeper and deeper and he'll be happy to do that because he knows he's not "wasting the peak of his career" out of position, he's merely prolonging his career at the top level.
He was played out of position.
He was dropped for the Madrid game.
He did fall out with the manager.
He did look disinterested then.
He probably really did want a move.
He's been our best player over the past ten seasons, and I get frustrated by people who can't see past personal dislike to recognise what in reality is the only important factor.
Give Rooney what he wants, given our current state the club cannot allow him to leave
enough you Rooney haters....
we need him if United are going to achieve anything this season.
we need him if United are going to achieve anything this season.
I have never once said he has not been a huge part of our success and that he has not been instrumental in all we have won, a large part of my feeling about him stem from the fact that as good as he has been, with the dedication of a ronaldo or giggs to his fitness and lifestyle he could have been south more.
BR... stop it mate, just give it a rest. You're talking too much sense.
Signing Wayne up will be a massive coup for the club. He could quite easily earn as much as we're offering in Spain or London.
Ronaldo has been dedicated but you seem to park the fact that he actually played for a move for two seasons, actually moved and probably was a big factor in us losing a CL final.
Giggs is a freak and using him as a comparison is stupid.
I'm willing to trust the club to make the right decision, so I'm no longer going to drive myself even more nuts by arguing about keeping or selling him. Otherwise, it'd be just like me to depart the Caf in a melodramatic flounce because someone on the internet wrote that Rooney is better than Jesus or somethin'.
Ok, keane and cantona, when they were fecking up you could overlook it as they were at their peak And doing everything they could for the club, there is a real argument to be made that as good as Rooney has been he was never as good as he could have been of u know what I mean, I've not put it well
Would be good news if he signed a new contract. Would allow us to shift the fecker on the left and let Mata play through the middle. He can whine as much as he wants then.
Seriously though would be great news. I think he loves seeing some serious talent coming to United.
Seriously though would be great news. I think he loves seeing some serious talent coming to United.
I think you just need to park it now man. Rooney is here to stay, he's going to be our record scorer and one of our most decorated players, possible going to get the captaincy and he will go down as a club legend if that all happens.
Fine, great, doesn't mean we have to cum over everything he does and has done like he is infallible, when he does well I'll continue to say so and likewise when he doesn't.
What's the latest on Rooney then?
Again, who is? fecking hyperbole nonsense in every post.
Rooney is a great player. There are only 2 or 3 players in the world that I would replace him with.
please refrain from ever linking to not just the mirror, but the "3am" section of the mirror, in the football forum again.
a column of such vapid, anaemic taste it makes the daily mail look high brow. frequent updates offered on justin and selenas latest argument, kelly brooks latest weight problem and some z list prick named towie who keeps getting shoved down our throats.
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So what happens if and when we sign up better players than Rooney (or other players become more important, like Adnan may do in two years time) - do we then have to pay them 350K a week?
300K a week is madness. He ain't that good. And for that sort of money he should only be eating and drinking what he's told every single day. For the record, I thought 250 was nuts too.
300K a week is madness. He ain't that good. And for that sort of money he should only be eating and drinking what he's told every single day. For the record, I thought 250 was nuts too.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/wayne-rooney-manchester-united-contract-3062530?
If this was true, it would make up for Posh Spice and Becks.
If this was true, it would make up for Posh Spice and Becks.
A 300k deal would give him options. Stay or Go.
Even at his reportedly 250k/week range, there aren't many clubs out there. PSG, Chelski, Real, Madrid, City and Barca who call all well afford the 250k or 300k. Either way, the same clubs or the usual suspects remains; 50k increment or otherwise.
It works out best for all parties including United... assuming that we can afford him and the roll-on effects (to other players) to start with.
I'm very confident he will stay.
This idea that by the time Rooney turns 30 he'll become a fat, bloated, uninterested waste of space is quite funny
So if he signs on for 300k you still think he's considering Chelsea?
If we weren't in the situation we're in, fighting for 4th, potentially missing out so not having CL football next year to entice new players, I'd say we should be able to find better value elsewhere at that price. Paying him that much sickens me slightly, but only if I think about it so I'm going to try and stop and just take pleasure from the possibility of him staying instead.
This idea that by the time Rooney turns 30 he'll become a fat, bloated, uninterested waste of space is quite funny
I'm told everything happens on the day of his 30th birthday, the transformation is immediate.
It actually happened to me when i was 26. Worst birthday ever.
Wait, we've been complaining about the squad all season, we sign a genuinely good player to add to it, and there are actually people who think it means we can now let Rooney go?
The guy that's been, like, our best player all season?
What?
The guy that's been, like, our best player all season?
What?
I kind of see where you're coming from.
Shelling out £300K on Rooney's wages though, buying Mata for that kind of money - seems like we're ridding ourselves of one or two principles, no? That's insane money right there.
Perhaps the summer shambles of last year was the kick up the arse we needed, the realisation that we're in fact competing in modern football and SAF's not going to conjure up league titles from nothing.
Principles? What? We're not a church. And we're not turning off a life support machine. Paying great footballers competitive wages and large transfer fees is against our principles is it? Was it when we signed Rooney as an 18 year old for a club record?
That was pre-Glazer.
Not saying I don't enjoy it or like it, just observing that we finally seem to realize what kind of enviroment we're finding ourselves in.
Considering that we might not qualify for the Champions League next year I think that it is imperative that we do not lose our best players this summer. Getting Rooney tied down to a new contract will be a massive boost for the club.
It has been painful this season to see rival fans and ABUs revelling in the perceived crumbling of the empire. It has been great seeing City fans this week though. A day before the Mata story broke a City supporting friend was adamant that no top player would be interested in joining United whilst Moyes was in charge, that we couldn't afford a top player anyway and how Rooney was gone at the end of the season. After this weeks developments people are starting to realise, including myself, that the club remains equipt through reputation and stature to overcome this blip.
Moyes still worries me though!
It has been painful this season to see rival fans and ABUs revelling in the perceived crumbling of the empire. It has been great seeing City fans this week though. A day before the Mata story broke a City supporting friend was adamant that no top player would be interested in joining United whilst Moyes was in charge, that we couldn't afford a top player anyway and how Rooney was gone at the end of the season. After this weeks developments people are starting to realise, including myself, that the club remains equipt through reputation and stature to overcome this blip.
Moyes still worries me though!
Could be. Could be a case of splurging now to save later. Who knows? Either way its a positive step. Selling Rooney if we didn't have to would just feel like a bonkers backwards step. Great teams have lots of great players, not a couple on a rota.
Rooney and his team have played this to perfection really. United are in a pretty desperate situation and it makes more financial sense to pay him the extra 50 grand a week and keep him in the prime of his career, rather than sell him and be required to shell out a fortune for an appropriate replacement. He's obviously happy to stay providing the rewards are there.
It's the right move though no doubt. Signing Mata to sell Rooney at the end of the season is a backward step. As Mockney states quite rightly, great teams have plenty of great players, and if United have aspirations to reach that level they need to retain as well as acquire them.
It's the right move though no doubt. Signing Mata to sell Rooney at the end of the season is a backward step. As Mockney states quite rightly, great teams have plenty of great players, and if United have aspirations to reach that level they need to retain as well as acquire them.
The first paragraph is almost exactly what was said on the Sunday Supplement this morning, it's a reasonable response for all parties involved United can't really afford to let Rooney go and Rooney wants another payday. You'd expect this'll be the last time Rooney gets to play his hand and win as he'll be 32/33 by the time his next renewal comes round.
I think Rooney has always wanted to stay so long as the rewards are there. United need to make statements right now and Rooney's camp have played this card before in 2010.
He is in the driving seat, as he probably was in 2010.
I never feel that this is the best way to operate. In this particular case, I'd prefer the club to make the right decision on Wayne getting a new contract (his recent form; the future-potential of that form; his enthusiam for staying at United etc etc) than signing him up just to appease fans or to show the world that United is still a major club which can keep its top players. The value of these kind of statements depends entirely on their perception: for instance, if the club feels that Rooney won't offer good value for a long contract & so sells him, does this mean that the club is 'weak' or 'unable to hang on to its stars'? No - it would be the kind of pragmatic decision that Wayne's reps would make, given better & alternative opportunities...no matter what spin the red-tops or kneejerk fans put on it. Organisations put far too much store on public image (something that is virtually always illusory by definition), and this is ill-advised.
Do you not think that's a major part of the decision? If Rooney wasn't playing up to his potential this season I don't think these figures would be getting bandied about.
In other news, I'm guessing the £300k figure is just an extension of the guess work for the £250k figure. Journo's putting 2+2 together and making 300,000.
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