Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Hang on, reading your post again now Im lost. If we would still be selling Rooney for a cut price, what was the point in getting him to sign the contract in the first place?

Getting as much as possible for him doesn't mean we'll be getting as much as he's ever been worth. It means taking the highest thats being offered at the time, which has been bumped up a bit by having more than a season on his contract

If he signs a contract on the understanding we'll do a deal with Chelsea, we arent going to suddenly get £60 million for him, because Chelsea wont be outbidding several other clubs to land him and Rooney's camp wont be playing the clubs against each other to get the best deal. We'll just get more than we would have done for a player with a year on his deal.

Its just a piece of paper that binds him to the club unless a fee is agreed for another club to buy out the remainder of the contract. If the deal in principle is done, or the the destination of the player is decided before he even signs the contract, its not the same as having a happy player at a club with 4 years on his contract. In that scenario you would have to pay the full amount.

If the player wants to leave, signs a contract to help him leave (because he's doing what the club want to get as much money as possible) and isnt happy to stay at the club, then its a completely different situation. Thats why Chelsea would still be getting him at a figure they'll be more than happy to pay and wages wouldn't be a slight problem

In no scenario are we selling a Wayne Rooney who is happy to stay, with lots of years on his contract for the most money he could ever have been worth. Because if he was happy to stay we wouldnt be selling him in the first place.
 
If we can keep Rooney, as well as signing Mata, I feel optimistic the gloom around the club is about to lift and we can start this resurgence that has been such a long time in coming. It should make securing 4th this season possible but even if it doesnt it means we have less work to do ahead of turning things around next season. If we lost Rooney the size of the rebuild needed would be an order of magnitude higher. If we keep him, and have Mata, we only need to make a couple of good signings and we are in really good shape.
 
I have never changed my opinion, while he is here I will support and cheers his goal, I would never boo him , once he has gone, I dont care where he goes or what he does.

That's exactly where I stand with Rooney. Don't like the bloke whatsoever, yet I realise he's one of the best strikers - yes, striker - in the game. His adaptability ensures that while he isn't as good, he's still a very real threat when in the hole or out wide. I was quite happy with letting him go in the Summer provided we got in a replacement. Mata, for example.

However, I'd probably say I actively want him to stay now. Mata signing and Rooney signing a contract in this window would be massive for the club. In Mata, Van Persie, Rooney and Januzaj we'd ensure that we have class all across the front, not to mention the likes of Nani, Kagawa, Welbeck and Hernandez around, too. Let's hope he signs.
 
If he does sign, it'll probably be similar to the Suarez one, i.e. if we don't make the CL we let him leave.
I hope not, if we failed to get into the CL and then let him go we'd have made it that much harder for ourselves to get back in. Id like to think we could offer him terms attractive enough to forego CL football for one season, we could still reasonably paint missing out as a one off. It also occurs to me that giving him that kind of clause might undermine his incentive to work his arse off to get us into up into 4th. With Rooney of all people that is probably a bit unfair, the guy hasnt given any reason to question his work ethic, but still, itd be nice to know that in the final straight when we are pulling out the stops to get into the CL that everyone is equally in it together, that he is as desperate to get us there for his own sake as for the sake of his professionalism (or WC place, which isnt in doubt anyway if he is fit so isnt really a factor anyway.)
 
MPTutd....Don't post something like that without a source. There will be consequences if it isn't accounced "shortly".
 
If he signs a new contract it's likely we'll make him the highest earner in Premier League history I reckon.
 
If he signs a new contract will it mean we think he won't go anywhere? Or will there still be doubt?
It's Rooney, there will always be doubt. He's wanted a move twice in the last few years.

But a new contract would guarantee a good price for him at the very least.
 
Even Michael Owen knows it.


From Michael Owen...
A little dickie bird tells me there is more good news for United fans coming soon! #tease

Can't tell you my sources, but needless to say its a friend of a friend. To tell you more would compromise his job.
 
Even Michael Owen knows it.


From Michael Owen...
A little dickie bird tells me there is more good news for United fans coming soon! #tease

Can't tell you my sources, but needless to say its a friend of a friend. To tell you more would compromise his job.

It's a male, that's 3.5bn less people it could be. You're not very good at this are you MPTutd?

If we were playing Guess Who then we would knock half the board down.
 
Even Michael Owen knows it.


From Michael Owen...
A little dickie bird tells me there is more good news for United fans coming soon! #tease

Can't tell you my sources, but needless to say its a friend of a friend. To tell you more would compromise his job.

If it's Moyes, I urge to to tell us more.
 
Guys, i have been on this site long enough to prove I am not some fly-by-night WUM who just turns up every so often.

I just pray that I am not being WUM'd by my mate!
 
Even Michael Owen knows it.


From Michael Owen...
A little dickie bird tells me there is more good news for United fans coming soon! #tease

Can't tell you my sources, but needless to say its a friend of a friend. To tell you more would compromise his job.

While it's likely to be the case, that's not a source that definitely says it's going to happen, or has happened, or indeed anything.

But yeah, expect to be ridiculed forever if it doesn't happen. I would also preface things like "signed a new contract" with something like "from a friend of a friend who I can't say feck all about".
 
Guys, i have been on this site long enough to prove I am not some fly-by-night WUM who just turns up every so often.

I just pray that I am not being WUM'd by my mate!

Have you got anything right on here in the past? Are you even a real person?
 
Michael Owen can't even make a tweet about a potential United signing without boring the feck out of me.

Paint really does watch him dry.
 
We're talking about Wayne Rooney, England's best player. They'll be having parties for weeks if they can get him in a Chelsea shirt, especially after they failed to get him last summer when he wasnt in best form and now we've got him back playing somewhere near his best. They aren't going to say "We're only willing to offer you this amount over 3 years, we would have been willing to give you this amount more but you signed a contract and we had to pay an extra £5 million. Oh now you don't want to join? Go away then we have Fernando Torres"
Calling him England's best player is a bit like being the least rapey bloke on the nonces wing!! As long as he carries on playing like he is and keeping his trap shut I'll happily see him stay. I've waited this long, I can wait 3 or 4 more years till he hangs up his boots if we get proper Rooney.
 
It's true. When me and Sparky are England's 3rd & 4th-best players, you know that England are teh rubbish.
 
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