Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Moyes has handled the fitness of our players brilliantly. Quite delighted. Robin van Persie misses nearly the entire season after playing all 38 League matches of the previous two seasons. Michael Carrick is forced to play injured against Arsenal and subsequently misses over a month with an aggravated injury. Now Rooney plays with an injury against Spurs and aggravates his injury. Lovely management from Moyes. Wonderful how he alienates certain players like Fábio, Anderson, and Zaha so that players like Evra, Cleverley, and Valencia play virtually every game without ever getting a rest, making their performances seemingly worse with each passing week. Speaks very highly of the trust van Persie and Rooney have in Moyes' fitness team that these players seek to recuperate elsewhere. Sensational management from Moyes.

Ever had a groin injury? They're terrible and many little things can set you back. Not to mention your cock can hurt from it, too. I suffered with a bad groin for 18 months and am only now getting better.

Anderson is gash. Can't say what it is about Fabio and Zaha, although Fabio has a propensity for getting crocked so perhaps he holds back in training? Zaha got games on tour so it is a bit of a mystery but again we don't see the training so it's hard to say.

As for players going elsewhere to recuperate, injuries can be demoralizing, especially for someone like Van Persie who has spent a lot of time out over his career. Returning to his own country could give him a boost mentally. Likewise, going somewhere nicer than England in January can do a lot of good for a player's mentality. Fergie used to give players from wamer countries leave often.

Not that I expect any of this to make an impression on you but I have this thing for railing against things that I consider abjectly incorrect.
 
Moyes has handled the fitness of our players brilliantly. Quite delighted. Robin van Persie misses nearly the entire season after playing all 38 League matches of the previous two seasons. Michael Carrick is forced to play injured against Arsenal and subsequently misses over a month with an aggravated injury. Now Rooney plays with an injury against Spurs and aggravates his injury. Lovely management from Moyes. Wonderful how he alienates certain players like Fábio, Anderson, and Zaha so that players like Evra, Cleverley, and Valencia play virtually every game without ever getting a rest, making their performances seemingly worse with each passing week. Speaks very highly of the trust van Persie and Rooney have in Moyes' fitness team that these players seek to recuperate elsewhere. Sensational management from Moyes.
What did I just read...RVP has had his own fitness regime since the start of the season. He only went to Holland because the Dutch fitness coach that he usually works with couldn't make it to England the past month.

It's not uncommon for players to seek treatment outside the club physios. Draxler is even getting treated by a Bayern doctor ffs.
 
He's had it for a few years I think, not just from the start of this season.
Oh I know, I was thinking about the Twitter retards who blame Moyes' dinosaur training methods for RVP's injury when he has been on his own personalised regime, just like under Wenger and Ferguson.
 
Do we know where this warm weather training has taken him? It's not unreasonable to think that the North of England in January isn't the best of places to heal a muscle injury.

Also, Paris in January isn't the best place for me to get over my fatigue, I have to go tell my boss that. :wenger:

Shame he won't be player (Rooney, not my boss), it's gonna be a very tough game. We really need him back to his best asap.
 
I saw a tweet earlier that said Rooney hasn't won a Player of the Month award in four years. I was pretty surprised by that.

Surprising. You would have thought he would have won it a couple more times this season already - Who won it in September and November?
 
Surprising. You would have thought he would have won it a couple more times this season already - Who won it in September and November?


Apparently Rooney won it in September.
Rooney also won it November.

(I'm assuming you mean the United Player of the Month award).
 
I imagine he'll be off in the summer. Probably to Chelsea. We just need to hope we at least get an auction and a pretty penny. Actually, an auction would not look good for us to be fair. The idea of everyone publicly taking stabs at one of our key players would make us look a bit second-rate.
 
He's been fantastic relative to the rest of our players, but not the league.

My mistake - thought we were talking about United Player of the month.

In that case maybe not so surprising. Though I may have thought he would have bagged it at some point in 2011/12 as he was scoring for fun back then.
 
Moyes has handled the fitness of our players brilliantly. Quite delighted. Robin van Persie misses nearly the entire season after playing all 38 League matches of the previous two seasons. Michael Carrick is forced to play injured against Arsenal and subsequently misses over a month with an aggravated injury. Now Rooney plays with an injury against Spurs and aggravates his injury. Lovely management from Moyes. Wonderful how he alienates certain players like Fábio, Anderson, and Zaha so that players like Evra, Cleverley, and Valencia play virtually every game without ever getting a rest, making their performances seemingly worse with each passing week. Speaks very highly of the trust van Persie and Rooney have in Moyes' fitness team that these players seek to recuperate elsewhere. Sensational management from Moyes.


Yea, poor fecking them.

Sensational post from you.
 
According to Telegraph,he can buy out the remaining year of his contract at the end of the season.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...trikers-offered-to-Chelsea-during-window.html

If it's true, that could complicate things for United.


This ridiculous story comes out every transfer window about many different players. It will not ever happen (ok I think it happened once 2 years ago but that was unusual circumstance). The player has to pay it himself, there's not only a huge tax issue with that but it's a massive risk. Only a Player that was ridiculously unhappy would try it, not a player playing for one of the best teams in the world. Any team that benefited from it would be punished by every other club as it's seen as sucha disgraceful way to operate. There's maybe only two players in the worlds team might risk it for and s 28 year old rooney is not one of those two.

Anyway. I haven't read this thread in a while. I may be alone in this feeling but...I can't help but think i hope we get rid of him in the summer. Getting rid of him will free up a place for januzaj who will be amazing. It will also free up kagawas place who will be a better player than rooney in 2 years (not now I know). He's ona massive wage, gets injured way too much, doesn't really care any more. Do we really want him to sign another 3 or 4 year contract on that ridiculous wage?

I would say I'm not 100% convinced on this argument. .. Just how I've started to feel, I'd like people to convince me otherwise...

Yes, he's been excellent this year. But the only reason why is because he wants to make sure he gets away in the summer. He's needed to convince managers/owners that he isn't the fat lazy scouse prick SAF said he was. Let him put himself in the shop window this year, get shot in the summer. Someone else can have a 29 year old crock. Just watch him revert to type (2011/12 rooney). Just hope we can get 20 plus million for him.

Januzaj is the future.
 
There really is a horrible inevitability to his exit and where it will leave us as a team.
 
There really is a horrible inevitability to his exit and where it will leave us as a team.


Good thing the manager has refocused the team on him and spent his first six months with his nose firmly up Rooney's arse. Rooney is one of our two most talented players, but the team was better last season when he wasn't a central figure. He's been great this year, but is that because of Moyes or because he wants more money/to leave? I can understand Moyes' focus on him since he's the only player Moyes knows and can be the heartbeat of the team. That doesn't change the fact that United are in a weak position to negotiate with him at the moment, given the team's struggles and lack of signings. His claims about United's ambition always rang hollow under Fergie, but they seem more genuine of a team that isn't even in a Europa League position at the moment. Now, we have no real alternatives to Rooney and may not be able to sign a world-class replacement.

Ultimately, Rooney will do what's best for Paul Stretford, who will ensure him that he's doing what's best for him. Having the team's main man in that position is a horrible situation to be in.
 
Good thing the manager has refocused the team on him and spent his first six months with his nose firmly up Rooney's arse. Rooney is one of our two most talented players, but the team was better last season when he wasn't a central figure. He's been great this year, but is that because of Moyes or because he wants more money/to leave? I can understand Moyes' focus on him since he's the only player Moyes knows and can be the heartbeat of the team. That doesn't change the fact that United are in a weak position to negotiate with him at the moment, given the team's struggles and lack of signings. His claims about United's ambition always rang hollow under Fergie, but they seem more genuine of a team that isn't even in a Europa League position at the moment. Now, we have no real alternatives to Rooney and may not be able to sign a world-class replacement.

Ultimately, Rooney will do what's best for Paul Stretford, who will ensure him that he's doing what's best for him. Having the team's main man in that position is a horrible situation to be in.

If it happens, it happens. We've lost top players before and recovered. When we lost Ronaldo everybody said the same.
 
Not to piss in your cereal or anything, but something's kind of... changed since Ronaldo left. Sort of.

Sure it won't be as easy, but with RVP fit and Januzaj coming more into things, they could make up for Rooney's absence.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/15/wayne-rooney-injury-manchester-united-chelsea?
Manchester United's hopes of finishing in a Champions League position could suffer a severe blow as fears grow that Wayne Rooney may be out for three weeks with a groin injury.
As David Moyes's squad were given the day off on Wednesday, the manager will have a clearer idea of Rooney's condition when the players return to training at their Carrington base on Thursday.
Last week the striker was sent away for a warm-weather break in Egypt with his family and one of United's fitness experts to help his recovery from an abductor problem. But it now seems that he will miss Sunday's crucial trip to Chelsea and could be out for the rest of the month.
 
How do you suddenly go from a possible return to the bench [or better] this weekend to an additional three weeks? Was Rooney's time in Egypt inadequately monitored, or asking too much of him too soon?
 
How do you suddenly go from a possible return to the bench [or better] this weekend to an additional three weeks? Was Rooney's time in Egypt inadequately monitored, or asking too much of him too soon?

The reason he went to Egypt was because his recovery was behind schedule in the first place. Him returning to the bench this weekend was only mooted if the trip to Egypt made any difference to his recovery, which it looks like it hasn't.
 
The reason he went to Egypt was because his recovery was behind schedule in the first place. Him returning to the bench this weekend was only mooted if the trip to Egypt made any difference to his recovery, which it looks like it hasn't.

Naturally the club were hoping for some sort of pay-off in fitness terms, however i wasn't aware that he was three weeks from away from returning otherwise.
 
Rooney going to Egypt to help him recover and him instead being out for 3 weeks? Hmm. Don't really believe that.
 
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