Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Brwned said:
My point is basically that this suggestion is nonsense:

Before he was moved into midfield today he spent more time out wide than Kagawa. Against City he played on the left wing for the last 20 (?) minutes. In that Sunderland game he obviously dropped back into midfield more to close the game out after Januzaj's second. When we need to shut games down he'll still drop into midfield and when we need to bring on a third forward he'll move out wide as he's always done, he just didn't like being shackled in midfield from the start.

Although I don't agree with what you're saying, personally.
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Well good on Moyes. He made the decision to play Rooney in a position which Rooney himself admitted he doesn't like playing in, for the good of the team. Something he knows made Rooney want to leave last season. Making ballsy decisions and showing Rooney who is boss. I approve. As I approved of Giggs telling Rooney to drop back and help out in midfield when he was playing too high up against La Real (as pointed out by Gary Neville).

Just because he was dropped back today doesn't mean there weren't a few games when he was playing very high. There were.
 
Randall Flagg said:
Why laugh?

I said this during the summer he is our best player. But he needs the old arm round the shoulder, but is our most influential player and this season has carried us. He is captain material. Not in the same class but similar to Eric in 96
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:lol: He's not going to sign a contract. He's going to leave, get over it. Throw the captains armband on him this season and he'll be wearing Chelsea's armband next. Can't believe people still talk like he wants to be here
 
Ekeke said:
:lol: He's not going to sign a contract. He's going to leave, get over it. Throw the captains armband on him this season and he'll be wearing Chelsea's armband next. Can't believe people still talk like he wants to be here
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Let's see what happens. I really don't find the thought of him playing for Chelsea funny though.
 
Ekeke said:
:lol: He's not going to sign a contract. He's going to leave, get over it. Throw the captains armband on him this season and he'll be wearing Chelsea's armband next. Can't believe people still talk like he wants to be here
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Paul Stretford, is that you?
 
Randall Flagg said:
Wouldn't take Mata over Rooney any day of the week for utd.

Why do you still want him gone. He is our beat player...I don't get it
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'No player is bigger than the club' doesn't seem to apply to Rooney who does whatever he wants. We have RvP so Rooney is very replaceable providing we are willing to splash the cash. I sincerely hope we don't bend over and offer him another 200k a week contract but I imagine that's exactly what we'll do.
 
shaggy said:
'No player is bigger than the club' doesn't seem to apply to Rooney who does whatever he wants. We have RvP so Rooney is very replaceable providing we are willing to splash the cash. I sincerely hope we don't bend over and offer him another 200k a week contract but I imagine that's exactly what we'll do.
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Utter load of nonsense saying Rooney considers himself bigger than club. He had issue being used particular way and has multiple times said that he is happy under new manager. He definitely deserves a new contract and matching one to current. He is doing and offering lot more to team than RvP at the moment and more than ANYONE else for that matter. If anything, he is less replaceable than RvP.
 
The Man Himself said:
Utter load of nonsense saying Rooney considers himself bigger than club. He had issue being used particular way and has multiple times said that he is happy under new manager. He definitely deserves a new contract and matching one to current. He is doing and offering lot more to team than RvP at the moment and more than ANYONE else for that matter. If anything, he is less replaceable than RvP.
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Well I disagree but he's played well so far this season and deserves the praise he is getting.
 
The Man Himself said:
Utter load of nonsense saying Rooney considers himself bigger than club. He had issue being used particular way and has multiple times said that he is happy under new manager. He definitely deserves a new contract and matching one to current. He is doing and offering lot more to team than RvP at the moment and more than ANYONE else for that matter. If anything, he is less replaceable than RvP.
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Actually he was unhappy with our transfers, then unhappy that he's played in midfield and being subbed. And he hasnt said he's happy to stay
 
Ekeke said:
Actually he was unhappy with our transfers, then unhappy that he's played in midfield and being subbed. And he hasnt said he's happy to stay
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After Sociedad game: "The new coaches have come in and it feels like a new lease of life".... "I'm happy under the new management and we're working to get results under David Moyes and his coaching staff – that's the main thing for me"
 
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After Sociedad game: "The new coaches have come in and it feels like a new lease of life".... "I'm happy under the new management and we're working to get results under David Moyes and his coaching staff – that's the main thing for me"
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He doesnt say he's staying.
 
Ekeke said:
:lol: He's not going to sign a contract. He's going to leave, get over it. Throw the captains armband on him this season and he'll be wearing Chelsea's armband next. Can't believe people still talk like he wants to be here
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:lol: you whiffy bell.
 
Ekeke said:
He doesnt say he's staying.
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Doesn't say he's planning on leaving either, so don't go telling people to get over the fact he may be leaving, as that isn't clear as day. Moyes is playing him regularly in the position he wants to operate in: the #10, with some of the best football we've seen him play in years. He looks motivated, in every game bar a brace he looks like he truly fought out of his skin to get a result, and every interview he says he is enjoying the football. So in fact it looks more likely he will be staying than leaving, but contiune to laugh at people with your fake knowledge about Rooney's next move.

Are people still adamant that we should play Kagawa as #10 instead of Rooney? Is it not clear now that he brings much more to the team than he does in that position? He is the most creative player going through the middle, and a lot of our good plays today actually stemmed from him starting off the move. And for someone to say he hasn't got the vision for it :lol: tithead.
 
Red Shorts said:
Doesn't say he's planning on leaving either, so don't go telling people to get over the fact he may be leaving, as that isn't clear as day. Moyes is playing him regularly in the position he wants to operate in: the #10, with some of the best football we've seen him play in years. He looks motivated, in every game bar a brace he looks like he truly fought out of his skin to get a result, and every interview he says he is enjoying the football. So in fact it looks more likely he will be staying than leaving, but contiune to laugh at people with your fake knowledge about Rooney's next move.

Are people still adamant that we should play Kagawa as #10 instead of Rooney? Is it not clear now that he brings much more to the team than he does in that position? He is the most creative player going through the middle, and a lot of our good plays today actually stemmed from him starting off the move. And for someone to say he hasn't got the vision for it :lol: tithead.
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If he was staying he'd say so. Clear it right up. Instead he has purposefully stayed well clear of the subject, which speaks as much as his actions this summer. If there was a change in his intentions, he'd say so
 
Superb in the second half today... really led by example and his reaction after we scored the third goal (telling everyone to settle down, keep their heads etc.) was first class.

I find it really weird that his first touch lets him down so badly at times - especially when you consider what a technically proficient footballer he is.
 
shaggy said:
'No player is bigger than the club' doesn't seem to apply to Rooney who does whatever he wants. We have RvP so Rooney is very replaceable providing we are willing to splash the cash. I sincerely hope we don't bend over and offer him another 200k a week contract but I imagine that's exactly what we'll do.
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RVP is 2 years older than him.

What player in Rooneys class are you expecting to sign on less than 200k a week, as a matte of interest.

We're only at the end of Oct and he's already proven his worth this season.

If he refuses to sign it it's another thing, but if the club don't try push ahead with contract negotiations and tie him down it will be a huge mistake.
 
Ekeke said:
Its a great idea, make Chelsea's next big signing our captain. We might get an extra £2 million
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Based on the fact that we didn't sell to Chelsea in the summer, on the back of probably his worst season and when he clearly wanted to go, what makes so sure we'll sell him to Chelsea now, when he's been probably our best player and has said himself that he's enjoying life under Moyes?
 
Eyepopper said:
Based on the fact that we didn't sell to Chelsea in the summer, on the back of probably his worst season and when he clearly wanted to go, what makes so sure we'll sell him to Chelsea now, when he's been probably our best player and has said himself that he's enjoying life under Moyes?
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He wants to leave and his contract is up soon. He's just building bridges till he can get what he wants. Thats why he's clearly stopped well short of saying he wants to stay. That would be a lie
 
Ekeke said:
He wants to leave and his contract is up soon. He's just building bridges till he can get what he wants. Thats why he's clearly stopped well short of saying he wants to stay. That would be a lie
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When and where has he said he wants to leave?
 
Eyepopper said:
Based on the fact that we didn't sell to Chelsea in the summer, on the back of probably his worst season and when he clearly wanted to go, what makes so sure we'll sell him to Chelsea now, when he's been probably our best player and has said himself that he's enjoying life under Moyes?
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Let's not be incredibly naive here. Next summer is world cup so he has every reason to play well for himself and also not to ruin his relationship with Moyes at least till end of the year. Let's not take everything at face value.

I like Rooney as a player and I think he is a special player. However, it's also well documented how much reliant he is on Stretford for decisions and let's not forget that. Add to that his history of handing transfer requests and to think we mock Liverpool's captain for handing in transfer request once!
 
Tooni said:
Let's not be incredibly naive here. Next summer is world cup so he has every reason to play well for himself and also not to ruin his relationship with Moyes at least till end of the year. Let's not take everything at face value.

I like Rooney as a player and I think he is a special player. However, it's also well documented how much reliant he is on Stretford for decisions and let's not forget that. Add to that his history of handing transfer requests and to think we mock Liverpool's captain for handing in transfer request once!
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I've been following football for 25 years, I'd like to think I'm not that naive. I like to judge player on what they do on the pitch, right now Rooney is our most influential player and is well on his way to earning a new contract.

As I've said, if he chooses not to sign it it's another story.
 
Eyepopper said:
When and where has he said he wants to leave?
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When he asked to leave. Which he later wanted clarified that he didnt hand in a formal, written transfer request that would sacrifice the loyalty payments in his contract and has said he's happy that has been sorted. So we're left with him asking to leave and now refusing to say he wants to stay - but he doesn't want anybody saying he isnt entitled to the money because he handed in a transfer request.
 
Ekeke said:
He doesnt say he's staying.
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He explicitly doesn't need to at this stage of the season. He says he is happy. That is good enough indicator. Why would he talk about something (contract) if it is not in discussion yet?
His contract runs till 2015 so it can be sorted bit later.
As Eyepopper says, if he refuses to sign contract extension after offered, it will be another story but club need to do their part and offer him one, a contract matching his contributions.
 
Eyepopper said:
I've been following football for 25 years, I'd like to think I'm not that naive. I like to judge player on what they do on the pitch, right now Rooney is our most influential player and is well on his way to earning a new contract.

As I've said, if he chooses not to sign it it's another story.
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Agree, but with that fecker Stretford as his agent I will be shocked if he signs a contract before World Cup and then he will be hawked around all the money clubs. If that will fail he will play it out for a Bosman as it seems its all about the money with Stretford.
 
Good to see him popping up to get the equaliser, only saw the final 30 minutes of the game so not sure how he played for the most part. Though I thought he played fairly well from what I did see
 
The Man Himself said:
He explicitly doesn't need to at this stage of the season. He says he is happy. That is good enough indicator. Why would he talk about something (contract) if it is not in discussion yet?
His contract runs till 2015 so it can be sorted bit later.
As Eyepopper says, if he refuses to sign contract extension after offered, it will be another story but club need to do their part and offer him one, a contract matching his contributions.
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His current contract matches his contributions. And having a contract rejected wont help the situation one bit.
 
He's a great player no doubt about that , world class that's an opinion , his best position for United is as a centre midfielder at the moment no doubt about that , the team benefits having him in midfield if you can't see that then im sorry but you need to watch sooty and sweep , if Rooney plays in midfield with Carrick we could still win the league , he could be a world class midfielder a world class forward ? No
 
Jaapster said:
He's a great player no doubt about that , world class that's an opinion , his best position for United is as a centre midfielder at the moment no doubt about that , the team benefits having him in midfield if you can't see that then im sorry but you need to watch sooty and sweep , if Rooney plays in midfield with Carrick we could still win the league , he could be a world class midfielder a world class forward ? No
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What? You're not being serious are you?
 
Jaapster said:
He's a great player no doubt about that , world class that's an opinion , his best position for United is as a centre midfielder at the moment no doubt about that , the team benefits having him in midfield if you can't see that then im sorry but you need to watch sooty and sweep , if Rooney plays in midfield with Carrick we could still win the league , he could be a world class midfielder a world class forward ? No
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I disagree with every bit of this and can't figure out why anyone would want him to play in centre mid.
 
Brwned said:
I disagree with every bit of this and can't figure out why anyone would want him to play in centre mid.
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Okay that's fine it's your opinion , but as. Said united benefit from having him in midfield ,who have we got that is better ?
 
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