Nix. Just the masses. Badge would've been going too far - see, he ain't as stupid as some people think.Just a little dramatic, although i do think that it is a matter whick Rooney should clarify bearing in mins te relative importance of the qualifier. All the more so following Welbeck's suspension.
Of corse Hodgson is somewhat trapped by his own weakness and inflexibility as manager.
Right at this moment yes you can wonder at that.
Back to events at United, did he really blow kisses at the crowd on Saturday? The badge get a peck too?
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Rooney blowing kisses to the crowd......I thought I might actually barf into my pint. I bet he can't believe his luck how easily Manchester United pander to him and his pathetic ego.
Some Newbs posters reckon he was blowing kisses to his family...which is fair enough.
Some say that he was blowing kisses to Sparky...
He was obviously blowing kisses to Paul Stretford.
I expect you Welshman to more than sing when you lot meet the scousers.
That's the spirit. Keep your chin up.
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Why is it that everything he does at long range is fantastic yet his short game is hit and miss? He will ping a ball with deadly accuracy 60 yards yet struggles with short layoffs to people and with his general close control.
I dunno, but to be fair they are different skills. When I played football more (as a talentless clogger, obviously), I found long-range passing quite easy compared to the short-game.
I think he prefers to spray the ball about, enjoys it more than the short game.
Mr Contradiction strikes again, impossible to escape his clutches.
I'm obviously boring enough for you to want to jump on everything I post, simply because you thought you could make an example of me in a thread once, and it didn't go as well as you had planned, mainly due to your own self-indulgence. Carry on anyway it's fairly amusing to a point.
Why is driving a golf ball and slaying it off the fairways and out of the rough so easy but so many golfers crumble when it comes to chipping, setup and putting?
Latest Moyes comments on Rooney are that he wants him to play as a striker in partnership with RVP, not in midfield, and score 30 goals a season. That's got to be better from Rooney's point of view than anything Chelsea can offer.
Can't see him scoring 30 behind RVP (he will assist a lot more though), he would most likely score 30 if he was at Chelsea though.
Well there's hernandezs fate sealed.
A Guardian commentator called it 'a glaring piece of treason!'
The guardian can feck off, the amount we pay him we can expect him to do whatever it takes to be ready for our games before England are even concidered, correct decision by utd and Rooney.
This is BS. Apart from that stupendous season, what did Ronaldo do for United? As I posted before Rooney has a slightly better goals per season average than Ronaldo and over a longer period of time too. oh, and Rooney has scored or asssited 40 times in the last 44 matches. If you are going by contribution to United, I'd definitely rate Rooney over Ronaldo.
Ronaldo was instrumental in our best season since 1999 and won Ballon d'Or while with us, I'd say quite clearly he was better here in his final 2-3 seasons than Rooney has ever been. He was also our key player the year we retained the title in 2007. Obviously he's held in high regards, our greatest period in the last decade coincided with him being our best player.
Rooney has contributed more to United than Ronaldo but then you'd expect that given he's British and we're in a stronger position to hold on to him than we are to someone like Ronaldo.
He obviously doesn't have United in his heart like we used to think that he had, but for all his shenanigans, Rooney is still here. He is still giving his all on the pitch. For all the Ronaldo love that is shown around this place, I'm not so sure that he would have done the same had we refused to sell him. It's all well and good saying some nice things about your former employers, when you have used them as a stepping stone and got where you wanted to be, it's another thing remaining there against your wishes.
this. once rooney is finished with United he is never going to return and watch us from the stands. but he is still playing for us now, and a dickhead he is, he is still giving 100% for us on the pitch. if he does sign an extension and stays until his 30s, then he will end up as the club's all time goalscorer. you like him or you hate him he has served the club very well.
How do you know this? I seriously don't understand these kind of predictions.
Agree. On the high season you mention, Ronaldo was the star, but if you look at career at United contributions Rooney scores more. My point being, Ronaldo wanted to leave, he left....and is still remembered fondly. Rooney allegedly wanted to leave and is now a traitor with no United at heart. Reeks of double standards, ain't it?
A Guardian commentator called it 'a glaring piece of treason!'
Pathetic really given that last month they were criticising the fact that he wasn't playing for United but played 65mins for England, suggesting Moyes was lying about his injured shoulder etc.
Media hypocrites..?! No!okay. maybe i should change to "might not return to watch us"
Time travel.
Ignore the stats for a minute, I am talking about legend status here. Ronaldo joined Madrid and is still liked by United supporters, do you honestly believe he will get the same reception as Ronaldo got if he returned in a Chelsea shirt?
This is my point. Why the difference in treatment? One guy left after stating his 'dream' lies away from us. Another just questioned our commitment and then is still sticking by us.
I don't agree that Ronaldo is a legend in the first place either and I still attribute this to pure fanboism, but that's for another thread.
No it isn't. Ronaldo always said his biggest dream was to play for Real. He expressed those wishes to Ferguson who said that he would let him go if he played one more season for United, which he did.
Rooney has played a right fool with the club trying to get more money using an argument that the club had no ambitions (wtf is that). Ronaldo did no such thing. Then when United bought RVP, a world class signing, Rooney continues to sulk as he is not given enough playing time, simply because RVP performed better.
He contributes to the team with assists, work rate and goals, but I still maintain the he plays more for himself in that he wants to be sold to a big club and play in the World Club, for which he needs to play well. It's my opinion and not based on anything more than that.
The difference is that for players coming from where Ronaldo has come from madrid are a step up from united. That's a good reason to leave a club IMO. It's sort of like Rvp leaving arsenal for us except that the difference isn't as big and united were actually more successful than real at the time. But still similar because for Ronaldo madrid are bigger.
Rooney was already at the biggest club in England and has wanted to leave twice due to reasons such wanting more money, doubting the clubs ambition and not wanting to fight for his spot in the limelight with a better player. To each his own,but I like Ronaldo's reasons more. I understand his reasons, I understand that players like him will always see madrid and barca as bigger than us. But with Rooney,not simply doesn't get bigger and better than Manchester United unless he's been mistreated which has never been the case. Also the clubs he had been rumoured to wanting to go to were Chelsea he City. Big difference there too.
I'm not saying Ronaldo is a wonderful guy and loves united or anything. His comments when he wanted to leave were bad too. But I think understand where he was coming from much more. So hence the difference in treatment.
Ronaldo got what he wanted, Rooney didn't, and therein lies the difference. Rooney asked to leave us, for money/lack of competitiveness/too much competitiveness, but he is still here, and he is still contributing. In the end that's what matters, not saying nice words about the club once you have left it. Where were these nice words from Ronaldo when he was agreeing with the slave comments in the summer of 2008. I will never forgive him for how he treated the club during that summer. Rooney is no saint, far from it and his behavior has been deplorable, but he has been a greater servant to the club than Ronaldo.
'No it isn't. He left..'
.This makes absolutely no sense. You can't just think he does something when there is absolutely no way to tell whatsoever.
Mental illness stuff imo.
The comment was quite a daft comment I agree, but at that point of time our transfer was shite. Since we sold Ronaldo, our purchases were the likes of Valencia, Chicharito, Smalling, Young, Jones etc. Quality ones, but none to get instantly excited about. The problem with midfield was well established by then and Fergie's 'no value in market' was often a source for jokes, even in here. No matter that, his comments should not have been made..but it was a common sentiment.
I also do not understand the 'playing for himself' sentiment, when he regularly contrinutes to assists. Also what exactly does that mean. Try dropping RvP for a similar mega match and let's see if he is any happier than Rooney was.
He gets relegated to play second fiddle, shunted all over the place and played out of position to accomodate Kagawa, dropped for the biggest match in recent United history .... and you think he has not been mistreated? As I mention to Rossa above, he has been been misused last season and to fergie's credit it may have been better for United, bit it does not make it any sweeter for the player involved, right?
What a load of nonsense. What is this "shunting all over the place"? He was played in central midfield last season to get his touch back. Fergie said so himself. I choose to trust our biggest ever legend on that one. Relegated to play second fiddle? He was still first choice as a second striker. ?Sure, Rvp was our talisman last season but Rooney could have tried to outperform him in a different position and he didn't. He should look at his own form for that. He has to god given right to be the main man at a club as big as united. As for dropping him for the real match, again, if a player is dropped due to someone else being better for that game, then how the hell is that a case of mistreatment? That's a case of underperformance.
Seriously, this whole overly defensiveness regarding Rooney is silly. Fergie has been very accommodating with him over his own career. He's treated him really well. And he's a brilliant man manager. I'm not buying this sob story of Rooney being mistreated. He's treated how every single player is at a club as big as united. He's not at Everton ffs where everything comes on a plate.
Massive credit to Moyes on his management of this whole situation. He's played his hand brilliantly.
Many a player will be dropped for the big occasions. I remember pulling my hair for Ferguson dropping Scholes and playing Butt. He probably had his reasons for doing so. According to Ferguson, Rooney's head was not in the right place, and as it was, the team he picked mostly outplayed RM, and had it not been for the ref, then we probably would have won. Rooney must just acknowledge that he is replacable and understand what is best for the club. RVP may also feel neglected and pissed off is that was the case, but I doubt he would make a public fuss about it - that is the real difference.
How often was Rooney played out of position to accomodate Kagawa and how often was Kagawa played out of position? How often has Kagawa complained other than say that he will work hard to make the spot his own. That's the difference - being petulant or playing for the team. Of course Rooney will continue to score and make assists - it benefits him. If he stopped doing that, he will not reach the World Cup and he will not get the biggest clubs chasing after him - again, that's my speculation.
What complete and utter shit. Mistreated!?! How about the players who his entire Utd career have been benched whilst an unfit or out of form Rooney has been selected "because he needs games to get back to his best"? Were they mistreated too?
He was dropped for the RM match because he doesn't have the defensive discipline or Nous to play a defensive role for 90 minutes as evidenced by being at fault for the goal in the away leg. The effort is there but he isn't a defensive player, a decision which was spot on until Nanis red card. As SAF said, an inform Rooney doesn't get dropped, but given how low his bottom level is when out of form he fecking well SHOULD be on the bench when hes not playing at or close to his best. He needs to realise the manager is there to do the best for Manchester United and not pander to players egos, and if that involves dropping him for the good of the team then so be it. Unfortunately those comments from his camp about Not needing to prove himself tell you all you need to know about what he thinks of that.
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