I don't think anyone will class Keane as a United legend based on his post-United career, funnily enough.
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I don't think anyone will class Keane as a United legend based on his post-United career, funnily enough.
Tried the Hollywood lob when he should've passed it.
Then passed it to Hernandez when he should've spanked it first time.
Otherwise, fairly positive performance. So glad we didn't sell him to Chelsea, they look shit up front.
Then passed it to Hernandez when he should've spanked it first time.
Otherwise, fairly positive performance. So glad we didn't sell him to Chelsea, they look shit up front.
That's irrelevant, and yes he acted like a cnut after retiring. At least he was 100 % dedicated when he was here.
He will always be a United-legend, but he simply isnt doing himself any favours by his attitude towards the club after his playing career with us. There is a difference between being a United-legend and a United-hero though, as silly as it sounds. You can be a legend despite being a total cnut, but a hero is as much to do what you do on the pitch as how the supporters feelings towards a player.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sport/football/394531.stm
He had this very public contract haggling, he had the infamous MUTV interview where he was actually insulting some players and questioning Fergie's judgment and he acted like a cnut in the whole Haaland incident. He was no saint. His legendary status is entirely down to his performances on the pitch.
I am not sure for how long you guys are going to go on & on, repeating same things over and over again in debating whether he will be called club legend or not. He is back in first team, playing well and United players are happy to have him around (evident from yesterday's goal celebration) and he will be key if we are to win trophies this year. No point in making it sound like you are forced to be in relation with a bird who requested you to be banged by your enemy.
Just like we contemplate switching jobs inb our career at various point and don't think too much about joining rival company for good offer, same can be said about football players.
What really happened since April end till end of summer only very few people know and we might not know full truth for few more years. Let's just start treating him like other United players, concentrating on his performances and role rather than trivial things.
If he stays beyond current season and becomes leading goal scorer, 25-30 years on, he will be called club legend and nobody will remember these incidents just like we don't know/remember every small detail about some other legends from past.
Just like we contemplate switching jobs inb our career at various point and don't think too much about joining rival company for good offer, same can be said about football players.
What really happened since April end till end of summer only very few people know and we might not know full truth for few more years. Let's just start treating him like other United players, concentrating on his performances and role rather than trivial things.
If he stays beyond current season and becomes leading goal scorer, 25-30 years on, he will be called club legend and nobody will remember these incidents just like we don't know/remember every small detail about some other legends from past.
Meh, I'd class the two as the same thing.
And he always gave everything on the pitch.
For the most part, yeah. Hence why a few of our "legends" also disrespected the club countless times. It's just in this case the 24-hour media shits out daily news stories about the issue to amp up the drama and people get all wrapped up in it, whereas before there were a couple of reports on the issue and then it was forgotten about by the time the next game came around.
He tried an outside of the foot cross to the back post to Valencia, no chance that was a chip.
I still see Keane as a legend but many will disagree with that. If Rooney stays for a couple of years he will break the record Bobby set but that won't make him a club legend, he will still go down as one of our greatest players.
And so did Rooney. He is shite sometimes, yes, but Keane didn't always perform brilliantly either.
By the way, at roughly the same age as Rooney is now, Scholes actually refused to play in a League Cup game. Outright refused it. Even he wasn't always flawless and fully dedicated.
Muffed a cheeky outside of the foot ball to Valencia if we're being honest.
.Two hundred goals ,Will be a fantastic achievement ,but United Legend maybe stretching it.
Muffed a cheeky outside of the foot ball to Valencia if we're being honest.
Don't get upset
As is Wayne Rooney
As his sulking demonstrated.
He'll probably go down as our all time top scorer and a huge influential player in a golden period of trophies for us . If that isn't enough for Legendary status then I don't know what is.
Even if he sulks or "looks disinterested" as in the Swansea game, he still quite clearly gives his all.
Sulking and looking disinterested would kind of imply the opposite.
Did he or did he not give it his all vs Swansea?
Bringing up this about Scholes to defend Rooney, absolutely pathetic
Just to highlight the double standards. The way some people keep going on about Rooney you'd think he burned down Ferguson's statue and smeared shit all over the seats at Old Trafford while singning "always look on the runway for ice".
It's not really double standards at all - Scholes is a club role model and undisputed legend, Rooney's a dickhead.
It's not really double standards at all - Scholes is a club role model and undisputed legend, Rooney's a dickhead.
That's the point: someone can be a role model even if they had some... questionable incidents in their past. Rooney had far more than Scholes, obviously, and he'll never be a role model but he'll still go down as a legend, considering everything he achieved here.
By the way, I do think Roy Keane is a club legend. Even though he is a cnut.
So one questionable moment borne out of frustration is the same as multiple based on greed and having to be the centre of attention? Is that what we're saying here?
Erm, no. I said it's not the same. Like, explicitly said that. I said Scholes is still a role model, despite one highly unprofessional incident and Rooney can still be considered a club legend even though he tried to leave the club twice. I consider Ferdinand a legend, too, despite his flirting with Chelsea and his contract saga.
You guys are such quilts sometimes. .
.Nah, Rooney's a nobhead.
He can still be a dickhead, an idiot whatever ... as long as he plays well for Man Utd. I have reduced my expectation of players being role models/respectful towards their clubs.
Yeah, the days of Scholes, Neville etc are probably over (even though Giggs is still playing on).
I guess it'll have to be a pleasant surprise whenever someone playing for us turns out not to be a dickhead.
I guess it'll have to be a pleasant surprise whenever someone playing for us turns out not to be a dickhead.
Many of you probably aren't fussed about the England angle but has his early return for United prompted any reactipn in that quarter? I doubt Roy will have expected to see him out there at OT and now pitentially looks a bit daft, well more than he did. Lol
Personally I'm rather proud of Wayne for playing 90 minutes in front of 76,000 wearing whatever the feck that was on his head. If they asked me to do that, I'd tell them to go away, public image and all that.
Roy Keane, despite his cuntishness will always be a "great United player". Wayne Rooney will be the same. Perhaps not universally loved like Charlton etc. but his status cannot be denied.
A Guardian commentator caled it 'a glaring piece of treason!'
Are they suggesting Rooney's more committed to playing for United than England? Have they not been reading their own articles for the last 5 months?
Valencia and Evra seems like top blokes for United, and Carrick too. Valencia even sacked his agent as he had no intention of leaving. Quite unlike Rooney, who only seems to be playing for himself these days. I honestly don't care if he plays well; players like him is not what United need. We criticise and laugh at Liverpool for playing Suarez; I think they do the same towards us for playing Rooney.
Is Keane not a legend now then? when did this happen?
You do realise that Suarez bites other human beings and is a racist to boot? Rooney is a saint compared to that rat.
It didn't, people are trying to liken Rooney to Keane, which is quite funny really.
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