Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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I think the whole situation with Rooney is comparable to a fridge really, 6 foot tall, white, weighs 300 pounds, doesn't have a brain, likes beer. Sure, the fridge can be static, erratic, sometimes enigmatic, but always frantic and sporadic, and always tragic when it stops working and will no longer perform. I mean, the similarities are unbelievable really, sometimes I look at my fridge and I'm all like "is that you, Wayn... no wait, old fridgie you fooled me again you son of a gun". Seriously, next time you're watching a match, look at Rooney, then your fridge, then back to Rooney, you'll be amazed and phased.

(Sorry, it's just Ruud10 was banned so I'm trying to compensate)

My fridge is more of a Hernandez, it's small and never really gets the opportunities it deserves because I rarely put good food in there. But still, it does whatever I ask of it and never gives me any problems.

I have a pair of PC speakers that are basically Antonio Valencia. They're black, sleek, beautiful and remind me of better times but they no longer do anything.
 
Evidently that is false given we're still treating him like a special player and will negotiate a new deal with him if he toes the company line. Once again, what fans think and what the club thinks should be regarded along tangential lines with one having no significance in the grand scheme of things.

Despite your pretence of objectivity that is just one more interpretation of events to suit your own point of view.

Had Rooney set his sights on a more acceptable club there is every reason to believe that he would be walking out onto the pitch for them this weekend. The possibility of a new deal being offered to strengthen the club's position is also not inconceivable either.
 
With all due respect, I don't think you and eboue are a good match.
That you could think that is a personal tragedy to me.

Jdmufc is the one who likes following women down dark alleys just to scare them isnt he?
I think so. At one point last year, just when I'd been promoted, he posted loads of really rapey stuff!
 
My cock is like Cristiano Ronaldo. Big, strong and very skillful.

Badampunboosh!
 
Guys lets just stick to the footie stuff about jd. I'm regretting mentioning him now!
 
Well back to football...

I see no way the fecker won't celebrate his tits off if he scores the winner in the last few minutes at Anfield...
 
Btw what did everyone make of the fans chanting rooneys name yesterday? I thought it was utterly bizarre to be honest, the guys throws a hissy fit at the end of last season telling fergie he doesn't want to play, and our fans cheer him on like a hero. A little bit like liverpool's bizarre cheering of Suarez despite him making a mess of everything in public.
 
Btw what did everyone make of the fans chanting rooneys name yesterday? I thought it was utterly bizarre to be honest, the guys throws a hissy fit at the end of last season telling fergie he doesn't want to play, and our fans cheer him on like a hero. A little bit like liverpool's bizarre cheering of Suarez despite him making a mess of everything in public.


I didnt like it but its understandable. If the club has decided to keep him, booing him and making things difficult will only worsen the situation. Like or hate the man, if he stays, we've got to back him.
 
Yeah, I was surprised but gladdened by it. It makes it easier for him to stay. If Moyes has vowed not to sell him and to make him honour his contract then we have to find a way to make his position as tenable as possible, or else he will end up rotting in the reserves which doesnt do anyone any good. At least this way we are getting some decent use out of our asset.
 
Btw what did everyone make of the fans chanting rooneys name yesterday? I thought it was utterly bizarre to be honest, the guys throws a hissy fit at the end of last season telling fergie he doesn't want to play, and our fans cheer him on like a hero. A little bit like liverpool's bizarre cheering of Suarez despite him making a mess of everything in public.


I thought it was fantastic. Absolute class from United fans in the stadium.
 
Btw what did everyone make of the fans chanting rooneys name yesterday? I thought it was utterly bizarre to be honest, the guys throws a hissy fit at the end of last season telling fergie he doesn't want to play, and our fans cheer him on like a hero. A little bit like liverpool's bizarre cheering of Suarez despite him making a mess of everything in public.

Mob or herd mentality? I could understand some of Mourinho's amazement.

It was pretty much from the opening whistle too which was the worst aspect, he barely needed to impress some of those in the stadium by the sounds of it.
 
Btw what did everyone make of the fans chanting rooneys name yesterday? I thought it was utterly bizarre to be honest, the guys throws a hissy fit at the end of last season telling fergie he doesn't want to play, and our fans cheer him on like a hero. A little bit like liverpool's bizarre cheering of Suarez despite him making a mess of everything in public.



I hated it but it was understandable.
During the game I had a few City fans mention the fact quite a few were cheering him and chanting his name and that we are 2 faced and fickle, had to remind them about Tevez and how he did much worse and he was treated like a hero on his return.
I dont like Rooney and want him sold, but he is not going to be, and has long as he plays well and contributes to the team, well he has my support. I will never sing his name, but while he wears the United shirt I will never boo him.
 
Threw his toys out of the pram when Fergie didn't pick him for some games last season. It's childish, no doubt. We all know how he hates being subbed or even worse, not playing at all, because we all know how much he loves to play.

My view, that's the only reason why he wanted to leave was because he didn't think he was first choice anymore. I think he knows it's a silly reason, hence why he hasn't come public about it. I honestly do think that. It wouldn't shine a good light on him because instead of buckling down and trying to improve to get out of the slump, he told Fergie he wanted to leave.

Now - I honestly do think that he's changed his mind. He's still a childish gimp - but he's still a top class player. I wouldn't call him a cnut at all. From the standard of cnutery that's about in football, Rooney is by no means a part of that group. In simple terms - he wanted to leave because he wasn't playing enough for him. His quote in 2012 was that he'll stay at United as long as United want him. Maybe he thought United no longer wanted him in the manner than he used to be wanted, ala - being one of the first names on the team sheet.

Glad he's staying (I know it's not definite, but I highly doubt it after his performance on Monday). Always liked the guy, despite his childish character. Any chancer who thought that he was on the decline is deluded. One mediocre season from him doesn't mean he's on the decline.
 
I hated it but it was understandable.
During the game I had a few City fans mention the fact quite a few were cheering him and chanting his name and that we are 2 faced and fickle, had to remind them about Tevez and how he did much worse and he was treated like a hero on his return.
I dont like Rooney and want him sold, but he is not going to be, and has long as he plays well and contributes to the team, well he has my support. I will never sing his name, but while he wears the United shirt I will never boo him.
Yeah, on the pitch he has my backing and I want him to do well because he's a united player. But cheering him on like a hero seems like a bizarre thing to do.

I thought it was fantastic. Absolute class from United fans in the stadium.
Care to expand on that? I'd like to know what is exactly classy about it. Liverpool fans did it with Suarez which I thought was laughable.

"Oh look there's the united team coming out. And there's Wayne, he's been wanting to leave all summer. Rooney! Rooney!.."
 
Is Rooney popularity on the Wayne? By Andy Mitten

Some fans still think the striker should go, others are backing him - the Wayne Rooney situation is not black and white.

It's a strange one, the relationship between a football player and football fans. Players are seen to be ‘good’ or ‘bad’ merely by the colour of their shirt.
Loyalties can switch on a contractual signature.
Perceived slights are exaggerated to create hate figures out of rival players.
Fans are biased, fickle, bigoted, passionate, loyal, hard-bitten, irrational and the lifeblood of the game. Reason is often lost in tribalism.
Tell a Red that David Silva is a magnificent footballer and expect a ‘yes, but...’
Tell a Blue that Ryan Giggs’ achievements stand above all others this area has ever produced and you’ll get similar.
United fans tend to get their way. They’re not used to players wanting out and there was no shortage of fans slaughtering Wayne Rooney all summer.
Why? Because Sir Alex Ferguson had told fans that Rooney asked for a transfer, something Rooney’s people always disputed. Yet those same people have been consistently briefing that he wants to leave Old Trafford – just as he did when he asked for a transfer in October 2010.
Rooney’s team mates have understood that he’s wanted to go to Chelsea since April.
Just as they understood that Cristiano Ronaldo wanted to leave for Real Madrid long before he did.
Ronaldo, a Champions League winner with United, was given a hero’s welcome when he returned with Madrid last season.
Will Rooney, a Champions League winner with United who is fourth on the club’s all-time top scorers list with more goals than George Best, be given the same welcome if he returns with Chelsea?
No, but his situation isn’t radically different. Ronaldo wanted to leave United a year before he did, but was persuaded to stay.
The difference is that Ferguson was happy to bless Ronaldo’s departure and he’s had little control over Rooney’s future.
To some fans, it’s black and white – Rooney either wants to play for United or he doesn’t. Yet relationships are not played out in black or white.
They’re complex and confusing in every walk of life. Football is no different, though ambivalence is rarely picked up on.
There are two versions of ‘the truth’, too. There’s what is stated in public and what actually happens in private, which can be very different.
Judging by the mood among Reds about Rooney over the summer, the Scouser didn’t win any popularity contests. Yet, for all the online bluster and criticism of Rooney, it simply didn’t reflect the real opinion of the fans who actually go to matches.
In sharp contrast was the reaction from the 2,000 hardcore travelling fans at Swansea last Saturday. Most – though by no means all – sang Rooney’s name when he warmed up. He didn’t respond. They sang his name again and he gave a brief clap.
He looked more miserable than the weather in Wales, but he’s not paid to look happy. He’s paid to play well and that he did. He barely celebrated the goals he’d played a part in at Swansea and he was the only player not to applaud the away fans at the end. That was poor form, but he’s not the first.
Rooney still wants to go and play alongside his close mate Ashley Cole. He’s an Evertonian, not a United fan. He’s under contract, but what does mean when a player wants to leave – or if a club wanted him to leave?
United are saying he’s going nowhere, but would Chelsea be bidding if they didn’t think they could get him?
There was a cheer when Rooney’s name was announced in United’s starting XI last night and he was applauded as he warmed up. He clapped back. He was lavished with sustained “Rooney” chants after three minutes, mainly from Reds but also from many of the 3,000 Chelsea fans. They also sang “We’ll see you next week”. Confusing times indeed.
Rooney again performed brightly in a largely dull encounter. His professionalism on the pitch has never been doubted – and that’s not a given among footballers. He flicked, he ran deep, he dropped his shoulder, he surged. Though like many players, he was short of his best. It’s August after all.
On 74 minutes, when he ran back and tackled Ramires close to his own goal, he was rightly applauded.
Rooney is a fine player who, ultimately, will be remembered favourably for his contribution at Old Trafford. If he stays at United he’ll be cheered by fans – if he plays well. If he doesn’t, he won’t. There’s no question about that.
 
I was at the game, and I wasn't the only person who felt fairly uncomfortable listening to the fickle-faced, massed chanting of his name. A lot of fans were chanting his name without any real desire to do so. The general feeling I got from people is that he is still too important to the club, and the thought of selling him after a frustrating summer is too unbearable to comprehend. There was more than a hint of desperation to it all, and I for one did not join in with the pandering. If people think chanting his name is going to make him love United again, I would guess they are in for a major disappointment.
 
I was at the game, and I wasn't the only person who felt fairly uncomfortable listening to the fickle-faced, massed chanting of his name. A lot of fans were chanting his name without any real desire to do so. The general feeling I got from people is that he is still too important to the club, and the thought of selling him after a frustrating summer is too unbearable to comprehend. There was more than a hint of desperation to it all, and I for one did not join in with the pandering. If people think chanting his name is going to make him love United again, I would guess they are in for a major disappointment.
:lol:

"Love us Wayne, please love us.."
 
It may not make him love United again. But it surely makes it easier for him to stay, and easier for him to get in the right frame of mind playing somewhere he may not want to be (though maybe Hernandez above is right and he never really fell out of love with United in the first place.)

Either way, if he is staying, as Moyes insisted he is, he might as well not feel like a leper at the club. And if Moyes was only posturing, his hand will be strengthened by that reaction from the fans. It lends credibility to his statement that we will keep him. Therefore, if Chelsea wanted to prize him away they wont be able to do it on the cheap, arguing he has less value to us because he has been marginalised and wont play.
 
:lol:

"Love us Wayne, please love us.."

Exactly! Jilted lover complex.

If it had been the odd chant when he did something positive then I could understand it to an extent, but it was from the off and didn't stop. A lot of them were hardcore fans aswell, regulars for a long long time. There was not a bad word uttered in my section, I couldn't believe it.
 
I was at the game, and I wasn't the only person who felt fairly uncomfortable listening to the fickle-faced, massed chanting of his name. A lot of fans were chanting his name without any real desire to do so. The general feeling I got from people is that he is still too important to the club, and the thought of selling him after a frustrating summer is too unbearable to comprehend. There was more than a hint of desperation to it all, and I for one did not join in with the pandering. If people think chanting his name is going to make him love United again, I would guess they are in for a major disappointment.

I know what you mean, but on the other hand there is a pragmatic short term element to it. On Monday night we needed the best result possible, and getting behind Rooney was the action most likely to achieve this. Does stick in the throat though!
 
It was such an important game. Maybe OT fans thought it best to 'encourage' him?
 
Maybe the match goers just want to put it all aside, don't really care about the off the field antics, and have in mind what he's done for the club for the last 8 years? I know I'd chant his name if I went to a game, even though I don't think he's handled the situation correctly. But I can perfectly understand why some would be annoyed with the chanting. However, I think you're going a bit too far and overanalyzing it.

Bizarre to compare it to the Suarez situation, not much in common really.
 
Moyes has handled this quite cannily, I reckon: an away game to usher WR back in the side, then a v. important home game when most fans would get behind Wayne. Clever stuff.
 
I know what you mean, but on the other hand there is a pragmatic short term element to it. On Monday night we needed the best result possible, and getting behind Rooney was the action most likely to achieve this. Does stick in the throat though!

Yeh it was definitely meant as a show of unity, to achieve a positive outcome. After all it is United who the fans follow, not Wayne Rooney. Just found it very uncomfortable!
 
Care to expand on that? I'd like to know what is exactly classy about it. Liverpool fans did it with Suarez which I thought was laughable.

"Oh look there's the united team coming out. And there's Wayne, he's been wanting to leave all summer. Rooney! Rooney!.."


We'll most likely never the whole truth in the Rooney transfer saga, so why act like you know?

On the pitch representing United against the club who have been throwing the red carpet out for Rooney and trying to turn his head all summer - cheering him sent a message.

Also Comsmit agrees with you. That is a sure fire way of knowing that you're wrong.
 
We'll most likely never the whole truth in the Rooney transfer saga, so why act like you know?

On the pitch representing United against the club who have been throwing the red carpet out for Rooney and trying to turn his head all summer - cheering him sent a message.

Also Comsmit agrees with you. That is a sure fire way of knowing that you're wrong.
Because we do know? He wanted to and told fergie he doesn't want to play. What is confusing you?

Personally I'm all for not booing a player. Fans should boo regarding something more serious than a player wanting out, but the excessively positive cheering was strange IMO.
 
You are nowhere near knowing the whole truth. It's obviously not so simple.
Eh, what is "simple" about that? Fergie came out and said it was the case and I have no reason to believe that he was lying. That was then pretty much confirmed by Rooney's silence all summer long refusing to put the speculation to rest. What about this whole thing is confusing you? I don't need the WHOLE truth. What I know is enough for me to know that I, personally, wouldn't laud and applaud the player involved in said events.
 
Maybe the match goers just want to put it all aside, don't really care about the off the field antics, and have in mind what he's done for the club for the last 8 years? I know I'd chant his name if I went to a game, even though I don't think he's handled the situation correctly. But I can perfectly understand why some would be annoyed with the chanting. However, I think you're going a bit too far and overanalyzing it.

Bizarre to compare it to the Suarez situation, not much in common really.

I think they're both identical situations. Both players wanted to leave so received verbal abuse from the supporters, both clubs have refused to sell their players, both players will have to play another season at their clubs and both sets of supporters will sing Suarez or Rooney name. I haven't got problem with anyone who sings his name, it's the fickle bunch who were shouting YSB at him in May but then sang his name on Monday that piss me off.
 
Eh, what is "simple" about that? Fergie came out and said it was the case and I have no reason to believe that he was lying. That was then pretty much confirmed by Rooney's silence all summer long refusing to put the speculation to rest. What about this whole thing is confusing you? I don't need the WHOLE truth. What I know is enough for me to know that I, personally, wouldn't laud and applaud the player involved in said events.


:rolleyes:
 
Rooney on Facebook :

Here’s some pictures from Monday night’s game. It was an unbelievable reaction from the fans, so thank you. I really appreciate your support. It means a lot.
 
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