Has he posted pics of the Chelsea fans?
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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I don't quite get it about having to have this mutual love between players and fans. Players at the end of the day are employees of the club who pay them good money to perform, and fans are just fans, and these players come and go. 90% of the players we have over the years aren't even United fans themselves
Are we really supposed to act like all of his whinging cnutnugget summer magically just didn't actually happen? Does he think we are all retards?
Guess we've been had by "Sky Sources", guys. Nothing to see here, move along.
Guess we've been had by "Sky Sources", guys. Nothing to see here, move along.
I reckon if he came on against Hull at home, with us being 4-0 up, he'd have got some boos.
Yeah, it would have been a repeat of the Wigan game at home in 2010.
I have heard 'means a lot' in personal life from special someones, raising my hope but nothing happened in the end in those cases. I won't read too much into Rooney's quote!
That is very true. Though by the same token, fans shouldnt take a player wanting to move on so personally either, given players are just employees who come and go. Any more than people who drink Coke should be insulted when the head of marketing for Coke EMEA decides to take a pay rise and move to Pepsi.
From his perspective the fans still love him and sing his name even louder than usual. I know a lot of people aren't happy with him but so far for him they don't "exist" as it's been all chants in his name.
Much as I'm pissed off with his behaviour, saying it's the same as Suarez is ridiculous. Suarez openly went to war with his club, where as Rooney has stayed quiet.
No one said it's the same thing.
No it wasnt it was weird as feck. Never been at a game in my life before were the opposition fans are chanting the name of one of your players. Classy bunch the Chavs are.That was brilliant
Yeah classy club with some classy fans.
I've still not given up hope that we can sell him
Rooney has finally figured out he won't be allowed to leave now, and the only way forward for him is to seek reconciliation with the fans, and the club. I won't be surprised to hear him say it was the love of the fans what has kept him at the club. The reception he got from both sets of fans on Monday was weird, and to me from a United perspective seemed an over reaction to a player who hardly wanted to stay. Desperate and needy from both sets of fans.
The 1 time a sugar daddy club can benefit us, they're nowhere to be found. PSG and Monaco, I'm looking at you 
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!The 1 time a sugar daddy club can benefit us, they're nowhere to be found. PSG and Monaco, I'm looking at you
They signed similar/better strikers not prone to going missing for a season.
The 1 time a sugar daddy club can benefit us, they're nowhere to be found. PSG and Monaco, I'm looking at you
Er... Chelsea?
Neither are proven to be better nor to not go missing. It's very easy to hey carried away with relatively new talents, but contrary to a lot of the bollocks talked Rooney has done it consistently at the very top level for over a decade.
Rooney alternates between good and mediocre/bad seasons. This season is his good year.
So with just 5 good seasons, he's got 197 goals for us? Not a bad record that!
Fergie did say answer he has asked for a transfer but, he never said Wayne asked not to play. If anything it was Fergie's decision to sit him out based on what he perhaps saw as Rooney's frame of mind and to be frank I don't doubt the mean mean side of the great man to show him who is boss one last time.
On a separate note - glad he's at least acknowledged the support he got. He had stopped the whole FB updates on United games for a while and his first post thanking the fans is a good start at least to having an amicable relationship going forward even if it isn't anything more than that.
Rooney hasn't done anything to deserve that level of support from our fans - i.e. bigger cheers than the rest of our lads who haven't spent the entire summer angling for a move to a direct rival.
If there's one thing I'm 'glad' about though, it's that the fans didn't give him the excuse he was seeking to force through a move because the fans are against him. Even Jose seemed surprised, and I'm glad we didn't play into their hands.
Not celebrating the goals or clapping the fans at the end last week was petulant, immature and bratty. Even the crap today about still not being happy with his position at the club was unnecessary.
Whilst he's in a United shirt I'll want him to do well but he's a bit of a twat and if a foreign club or Arsenal came in for him next season and we'd adequately replaced him I wouldn't be complaining.
If there's one thing I'm 'glad' about though, it's that the fans didn't give him the excuse he was seeking to force through a move because the fans are against him. Even Jose seemed surprised, and I'm glad we didn't play into their hands.
Not celebrating the goals or clapping the fans at the end last week was petulant, immature and bratty. Even the crap today about still not being happy with his position at the club was unnecessary.
Whilst he's in a United shirt I'll want him to do well but he's a bit of a twat and if a foreign club or Arsenal came in for him next season and we'd adequately replaced him I wouldn't be complaining.
Here's the likely key:
v Swansea - substitute - sulks.
v Chelsea - starts - happy.
So I guess Wayne will have to start every big match...
v Swansea - substitute - sulks.
v Chelsea - starts - happy.
So I guess Wayne will have to start every big match...
This is the crux of it.
Good point, it'll be interesting (infuriating) witnessing the media scrutiny and agonising when Rooney is on the bench for tactical, not fitness reasons.
A significant number of those chanting for Rooney seemed to do so spontaneously, i don't think they consciously thought about what they were doing either as a means to send the player a message or Chelsea. A smaller percentage of Rooney proponents to be sure however for the remainder they probably fell into some mob mentality.
If they'd chanted for the team as a whole fair enough, or at least have waited for Rooney to show the quality of his performance first.
There will also come a time one trusts when one of the other forwards keeps him out of the team for a spell, that will be interesting too.
If they'd chanted for the team as a whole fair enough, or at least have waited for Rooney to show the quality of his performance first.
There will also come a time one trusts when one of the other forwards keeps him out of the team for a spell, that will be interesting too.
I said it earlier in the thread...had we signed a big name this summer (a fabregas, Ronaldo or bale), he wouldn't have got that reaction if he played under the same circumstances.
People are more likely to back down from earlier reservations about him because in a situation where we haven't brought anyone in, we can't lose a top player.
I think Moyes has played a blinder with this whole Rooney situation. He couldn't have inherited a trickier sitiuation and in my opinion, he's handled it perfectly: stressing how highly he rates Rooney, while nevertheless making it clear that the team is bigger than Rooney. As mentioned, his bringing him back into the side, a difficult balancing act, has so far been handled very well.
Our transfer activity (or lack thereof) has been disappointing, but from a purely managerial standpoint, I think Moyes has made a great start to his United career.
Our transfer activity (or lack thereof) has been disappointing, but from a purely managerial standpoint, I think Moyes has made a great start to his United career.
So because the crowd didn't behave how you thought they should have it has to be a mob mentality? Either a real high opinion of yourself or a low one of everyone else.
. Isn't going to a sporting event to cheer on the team the very definition of a mob mentality? The "We'll see you next week, Wayne Rooney, we'll see you next week" was a pretty good chant I must admit from the away fans.Neither one nor the other.
I would imagine that the chant grew like most each week and every week, also perhaps an element of instinct involved. I can well understand their urge to reflect the start we had made to the game, however the reaction to Rooney was disproportionately enthusiastic particularly at the beginning IMO.His appearance couldn't simply be removed from the context of these past months, or at least i think it should have a degree of influence.
Like it has said - the average person probably doesn't delve as much into media offerings as it has been seen on the Caf. I'd be interested to see how many of the caf are actual match-goers. Not in a dick measuring way but in a genuine 'reflects match goer attitudes' kind of way. Walking up to the ground and getting into the match-day zone I am sure all the personal shit melts away and you get in the moment. Cheering on United rain hail or shine regardless of what is going on off the pitch.
eg. I knew how shit my home club would be and how much of a one man team relying on Del Piero and talked extensively about it all season on message boards and the like but when I walked into the stadium I wanted to do one thing and win/lose/draw watch Del Piero play. I didn't care how well we went (and we were horrendously shit all season). Watching him play was a fecking joy. Much like it was watching Dwight Yorke when we actually won the league and he was head and shoulders the best player in the league by far even at 30whatever he was at the time.
Actual football and talking shit with the lads are two completely disconnected environments. Much like the personal aspect of 'being the club' and 'supporting the club'.
In all honesty, the only time Rooney shouldn't be starting is if he is injured or being rested. Otherwise he should be one of the first names on the team sheet because that's just how good he is. Last season he had a disappointing season but still had something like 30 goals and assists. Even his biggest haters can't deny that he's easily one of our best players, along with van persie.
Our inability to sign top quality players - or in the case of this summer, decent players - makes me glad we didn't sell Rooney.
I am extremely worried by the way we approach this summer. Most specifically, the amount we have bid for players. £26m for Fabregas?
Our board must be truly deluded.
I am extremely worried by the way we approach this summer. Most specifically, the amount we have bid for players. £26m for Fabregas?
Our board must be truly deluded.
If we are to keep the knobhead showing him some support when he plays is the right thing to do, if that's what it takes to get the best out of him. He knows he has pissed people off, there is nothing to be gained from distracting him from the game which I'm sure booing his every touch would do.
Why not just treat him like any other player? I'm not advocating booing. We did the opposite of singling him out for booing.
Treating him like any other player involved chanting his name, to be fair. Most players have some chant or other. Specifically changing our songbook just to omit him is treating him differently to any other player.
He got a very special treatment the other day, mate. I'd suggest he doesn't even deserve to be treated like the rest of the team. They haven't come off throwing hissy fits last season. My personal take would be to just be indifferent towards him, accept he's here and in time if he shows commitment to the club then cheer him on (although I wouldn't).
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