He really wasn't as good as people are making it out to be. He was involved a lot but he will always be given the position he played in. He did some things really but also messed up some fairly simple things. I still feel he's better further forward. But forget output, yesterday he put in a real shift. The output is not really relevant, it's that he really put all his effort in, which was important.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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I think people are relieved his head is seemingly switched on, put in a good shift (as you've mentioned) and overall it was probably a 7.5 or 8/10 performance. Which is something most people would not have expected prior to the game.
Put all those reasons together its easy to see why he is being lauded on here.
feck you all wankers. Now that will be a good team!
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Our best player by far ?
It's fairly clear that Rvp has been the premier leagues best for the last two years.
It's fairly clear that Rvp has been the premier leagues best for the last two years.
Also can we take the opinion of someone who calls a player leaving a ".personal tragedy", seriously?
Not necessarily in this game considering the defensive way Chelsea played. His off the ball movement had to be excellent for him to be involved throughout the match. Other players could have gone missing. Not to mention the way he retained the ball when Chelsea defenders/midfielders were all over him, other players could have easily been dispossessed with their back to goal against such pressure.
Interesting that a lot of posters criticise our play for not going through the middle enough yet when it comes to Rooney, 'he's always going to be involved given the position he plays in'.
I can't laud him personally. He's been wanting to leave the club, and he's basically put in a lot of effort yesterday with a pretty good performance.
Held it up very well yesterday, well done to him.
He gave the ball a fair amount, particularly first half, but the game in general was so scrappy that everyone was doing that. However his attitude was absolutely right, he was really involved in our play and he produced some real moments of quality. Given the pessimism some fans (myself included) had about how committed and how match fit he would be, it was really encouraging to see him putting in a very good performance.
That's fair enough, your opinion is valid too. I was just giving some reasons as to why there would be people praising him after that.
Personally I'm glad he is switched on - it's clear there are no overseas buyers and it's either he goes to Chelsea or stays with us. So in that sense we've gotta start working with the options we've got left.
Rooney is always involved due to his position. It hasn't changed the fact that we don't go through the middle well enough. It's usually the case whether he's involved or not. Not sure Rooney actually helps that to be honest, he's not your typical technical no. 10. Although the issue is probably more system than down to one individual.
He was pretty good. We were the only team that threatened but we didn't threatened that much. Chelsea nullified our attack pretty easily so I'm sure how any of our attackers can be said to have had a great game. What chances did they set up ? What chances did they put away? Anyways, as I said decent result and happy with the effort put in by everyone (including Rooney). Still disagree that he played excellently.
Has to be bittersweet for United supporters. The same player that has been unsettled for a couple of seasons now and apparently has communicated to Chelsea that he wants to go put in an impressive performance. Only thing missing was a goal from him. He made a few errors in attack, choosing the wrong pass, but I think it was a statement match from the player. Of course, if he builds on this performance, fans will likely forget his transgressions although I'm sure it'd be nice to get consistent performances like that going forward.
Why don't you just give up?
All you have done in this thread is put your own prejudiced slant on everything rooney has done.
Despite them being both 9.5s positionally, if you will, I think sometimes they both occupy the places that each other wants to be in. And the centre can get a bit congested at times.
But say for example RvP scores 2 and Rooney assists both those goals and Utd win 2-0. The consensus would be that Rooney has had to be sacrificed for RvP to shine. And if Rooney scores 2 and RvP assists him then the consensus woudl be that RvP's game was sacrificed for Rooney. I think it's a loss loss situation if you look at it like that and instead as long as the team is playing well and the players are happy you can't be too concerned about whether individual players always putting in 9/10 players concurrently.
There were a lot of these number 10s on the pitch yesterday; Rooney didn't look technically inferior to me. Our only threat came from Rooney in a very defensive match. He created our best chance of the match for Welbeck as well as having our best effort on goal and setting up a counter attack late on. You can't expect him to beat 8 players and score a wonder goal, even Messi has struggled against Chelsea's parked bus. Considering the ultra defensive tactics of Mourinho, Rooney did very well and was the stand out attacker in the game. I have no doubt he would have made the difference if the game wasn't so cautious.
He had a decent performance, maybe the best player on the pitch because there were no real stand-out performers. But it's being exaggerated, because people expected him to put in an indifferent shift.
I still think his passing needs polishing, and can be accused of over-playing sometimes. The one time we opened up Chelsea's defense, he took on the shot instead of playing Robin in.
All in all, glad he's staying because he is a quality player (an absolute cnut though), and i'd rather we didn't sell our best players.
I still think his passing needs polishing, and can be accused of over-playing sometimes. The one time we opened up Chelsea's defense, he took on the shot instead of playing Robin in.
All in all, glad he's staying because he is a quality player (an absolute cnut though), and i'd rather we didn't sell our best players.
Great attitude, pretty good performance. It was easy to envisage him staying and it not becoming a distraction, which was crucial for me, the media shitstorm has at times made it seem a move was inevitable, whether it was the right thing for purely football reasons or not. The game gave Moyes' and the club's position a lot more credibility. I'm relieved, I don't expect Rooney to further encourage Chelsea now, we can all just focus on this season and see what happens, maybe it'll come up again in Jan or next summer but there's no reason to give it much thought till then.
He did that a couple of times, and one where he looked like he wanted to make space for a shot but got dispossessed. Overall, I thought he was our best player by a distance, but he did look like he was desperate to prove he is as good as Robin. He looked keen to score to shut up some doubters. I can't fualt that, but hopefully he'll keep his head up a bit more against Liverpool. Based on last night, I hope he starts.
Regardless of his feelings, he's very clearly going to play very well for us if he plays, so that's positive. Glad the fans didn't get on his back either. Hopefully our lot chanting his name meant something to him and he'll stay. This thread has gone full circle numerous times over the summer. He's shit. He's fat. Sell him, he hates United. Past his best. He'll tear it up at Chelsea. He's great. We can't sell him, ever! But Mourinho's right. He has to go public. Enough's enough.
Hopefully he still gets sold.
One good performance and everyone is carressing the tip of this cocknose again. It really is true, score a few goals and all is forgiven in football (or in this instance, just play a decent match without scoring).
One good performance and everyone is carressing the tip of this cocknose again. It really is true, score a few goals and all is forgiven in football (or in this instance, just play a decent match without scoring).
He tried to play rvp in several times throughout the game. No surprise people picking on the one occasion he didn't
Had a good game (much to my surprise) but, like the rest of our team last night, his final ball really let him down... and he never looked like unlocking the Chelsea defence at any point last night. Thats the same for everyone of course, but you are really looking at our wingers/Rooney to be the key men to do this and it just wasn't there.
Most of our (half) chances still came through him though. No other player really created .... anything.
The commitment and enthusiasm was nice to see but... that wasn't some world class performance or anything.
I wonder how the rest of the players feel about him staying and having to play with him. It can't be good for morale.
You have a big group of young and experienced players who work their bollocks off to get games, are over the moon to be at United, and have that Manchester United ethos in them..
Then you have an overpaid scouse bastard who has twice tried to leave and is still here starting games, when he wishes he was elsewhere.
Forget the price, just sell him abroad anywhere, even if it's just £10m.
We've lost bigger and better players in the past and have coped, we can do the same again
You have a big group of young and experienced players who work their bollocks off to get games, are over the moon to be at United, and have that Manchester United ethos in them..
Then you have an overpaid scouse bastard who has twice tried to leave and is still here starting games, when he wishes he was elsewhere.
Forget the price, just sell him abroad anywhere, even if it's just £10m.
We've lost bigger and better players in the past and have coped, we can do the same again
Mad isn't it, it's almost as if some people actually care more about what happens on the pitch than the soap opera that surrounds the modern game.
Football fans in liking foorballer for being good at football shocker
So basically
Rooney gets pissed off not getting games - he should be sold for £10m
Other players may get pissed off not getting games - Rooney should be sold for £10m
Outstanding.
Yes that is exactly what I wrote
Copy and paste eyepoppers posts.
Well I didn't like to draw too much attention to the 'forget the price, sell him abroad for £10m' bit, on the off chance that it encourages people to totally write off any opinion you may have.
Moyes to the press
"We have said you you people from day one, but you keep asking, you keep coming back. It gets hard to say sorry..."
"We have said you you people from day one, but you keep asking, you keep coming back. It gets hard to say sorry..."
With regards to the fan's reception, is it not likely that most just don't see any particular reason to hate him this time round? He's not happy, apparently for reasons which aren't exactly insulting to the club, and he's hardly pushed it, as evidenced by his commitment on the pitch.
I don't even remotely understand this mindset. If a player sees out their contract then they've done nothing wrong, in my opinion, and if they've played for a club for eleven years at the point they leave on a free you've hardly failed to get your money's worth. I'm delighted, for example, that we've not had this mindset about Nani, and so will continue to have our best wide player for at least another year, even if it means we don't make any money on his possible departure.
Rooney promised us five more years when he signed the contract, we should hold him to it, unless next summer he can find a buyer which is acceptable to us.
I don't even remotely understand this mindset. If a player sees out their contract then they've done nothing wrong, in my opinion, and if they've played for a club for eleven years at the point they leave on a free you've hardly failed to get your money's worth. I'm delighted, for example, that we've not had this mindset about Nani, and so will continue to have our best wide player for at least another year, even if it means we don't make any money on his possible departure.
Rooney promised us five more years when he signed the contract, we should hold him to it, unless next summer he can find a buyer which is acceptable to us.
I think it was a masterstroke by Moyes to pick Rooney to start and quite frankly he didnt disappoint. He looked lively and up for the encounter. He produced a thoroughly professional performance. Unlucky not to score from distance. Seriously i can't see him playing for Chelsea.
So bullish when people were fed up with him for wanting to leave twice, now it's all about him performing well on the pitch whilst he can keep shitting on the club and fans.
Football supporters, not the most intelligent and steadfast type of people. Lolzies.
Football supporters, not the most intelligent and steadfast type of people. Lolzies.
He's still not talking. Personally, I can't help but hate Wayne.
He's obviously still open to the Chelsea move.
To be fair as our main goalscorer for so long you cant blame him for taking a shot, he has definitely earned that right. As one of the loudest critics of his professionalism here Im delighted at how professional he was last night, it showed a level of maturity I did not think he was capable of.
Fair play arse hair head.
Fair play arse hair head.
Please elaborate on exactly how he is shitting over the club and the fans. By quietly, privately, expressing some dissatisfaction to his manager? By not kissing his badge or telling journalists he wishes to play for us forever?
He may well wish to leave, but if that, for you, is tantamount to shitting on the club and the fans, perhaps you have proved your own point about football fans.
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