I certainly would be peeved if he left and started putting in this much effort in every game for his new club. Just don't think he'll maintain it for us for the season.
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I certainly would be peeved if he left and started putting in this much effort in every game for his new club. Just don't think he'll maintain it for us for the season.
I liked Rooney tonight..
He gave a shit and tried!
Now just get Mata signed up and Fellaini and we are done, Mourinho said it wasnt a problem to sell players to other teams in the PL so get Mata signed asap!
He gave a shit and tried!
Now just get Mata signed up and Fellaini and we are done, Mourinho said it wasnt a problem to sell players to other teams in the PL so get Mata signed asap!
Its because fans know that no matter all the press and twatter bull that goes on, watching Manchester United play football will not be as glorious as it can be without Wayne Rooney. Fans go to games to watch skill and bravado. Only very few players can do that. Rooney is one of those and he performs beauty with a football more regularly than almost every other player in the premier League today.
"As for me Neil Ashton, i have to clean up my laptop keyboard as it would appear that i have disgraced myself ever so slightly. "
It's so nice to know he was bashing one out in front of his laptop whilst writing this article, the dirty bastard
It's so nice to know he was bashing one out in front of his laptop whilst writing this article, the dirty bastard
Rooney should have passed to RvP when he had that shot on goal which was saved by Cech, RvP would have been through on goal. And the Welbeck miss was also caused because Rooney should have passed earlier. Two vital moments, which could have won us the game. Apart from that Rooney had a good game.
Wayne Rooney has 48 hours to demand move from Manchester United to Chelsea says Jose Mourinho
Jose Mourinho has told Wayne Rooney he has 48 hours to demand a move to Chelsea after admitting Manchester United’s “special fans” could keep the forward at Old Trafford.
Decisions, decisions: Wayne Rooney's performance against Chelsea was well-received by the United faithful Photo: GETTY IMAGES
Despite being the subject of two rejected bids from Chelsea this summer, Rooney produced a man-of-the- match performance for United during a dour goalless stalemate.
And after claiming last week that he would lodge a third bid for Rooney following the game, Mourinho admitted he will now look elsewhere for a new striker if the England forward fails to encourage Chelsea to make a move within the next 48 hours.
“We are going to close [to signing] another player if he is not coming,” Mourinho said. “If he is not coming, I want to close another player. How long will we wait? 24, 48 hours.”
When asked whether Chelsea would lodge a third bid for Rooney, Mourinho added: “We have to speak, but I think this club [United] must be a very special club.
“In every club in the world, when a player wants to leave, they don’t support him. When a player wants to leave, they give him a hard time, but they have supported him all the way, so I think this must be a very special club, with special fans.
“I think probably now, he decides that he wants to stay. If he makes that decision, we will be the first to respect that.”
Despite hinting at pursuing other targets, with Anzhi Makhachkala forward Samuel Eto’o expected to arrive at Stamford Bridge should Rooney remain at Old Trafford, Mourinho appeared to suggest that the Rooney camp had prompted Chelsea to make their initial move for the player earlier this summer.
“The person that starts the story has to finish the story,” Mourinho said. “A club like us, a manager like me, and people who work with me, we are not silly to try to get a player from a big club, a club that don’t want to sell.
“We are not silly to try something if somebody didn’t start [it]. It’s time for the good of everyone to finish the story, to one side or the other.” When asked to clarify who had told Chelsea to move for Rooney, Mourinho said: “He (Rooney) told someone that it is very important in his career.
“If now he doesn’t want to leave, we are out of the thing. But we need to know, we need to know what is happening.”
Jose Mourinho has told Wayne Rooney he has 48 hours to demand a move to Chelsea after admitting Manchester United’s “special fans” could keep the forward at Old Trafford.
Decisions, decisions: Wayne Rooney's performance against Chelsea was well-received by the United faithful Photo: GETTY IMAGES
By Mark Ogden, at Old Trafford
11:48PM BST 26 Aug 2013
Despite being the subject of two rejected bids from Chelsea this summer, Rooney produced a man-of-the- match performance for United during a dour goalless stalemate.
And after claiming last week that he would lodge a third bid for Rooney following the game, Mourinho admitted he will now look elsewhere for a new striker if the England forward fails to encourage Chelsea to make a move within the next 48 hours.
“We are going to close [to signing] another player if he is not coming,” Mourinho said. “If he is not coming, I want to close another player. How long will we wait? 24, 48 hours.”
When asked whether Chelsea would lodge a third bid for Rooney, Mourinho added: “We have to speak, but I think this club [United] must be a very special club.
“In every club in the world, when a player wants to leave, they don’t support him. When a player wants to leave, they give him a hard time, but they have supported him all the way, so I think this must be a very special club, with special fans.
“I think probably now, he decides that he wants to stay. If he makes that decision, we will be the first to respect that.”
Despite hinting at pursuing other targets, with Anzhi Makhachkala forward Samuel Eto’o expected to arrive at Stamford Bridge should Rooney remain at Old Trafford, Mourinho appeared to suggest that the Rooney camp had prompted Chelsea to make their initial move for the player earlier this summer.
“The person that starts the story has to finish the story,” Mourinho said. “A club like us, a manager like me, and people who work with me, we are not silly to try to get a player from a big club, a club that don’t want to sell.
“We are not silly to try something if somebody didn’t start [it]. It’s time for the good of everyone to finish the story, to one side or the other.” When asked to clarify who had told Chelsea to move for Rooney, Mourinho said: “He (Rooney) told someone that it is very important in his career.
“If now he doesn’t want to leave, we are out of the thing. But we need to know, we need to know what is happening.”
That's a fecking embarrassment.
Indeed. Terrible font.
Wayne Rooney has 48 hours to demand move from Manchester United to Chelsea says Jose Mourinho
Jose Mourinho has told Wayne Rooney he has 48 hours to demand a move to Chelsea after admitting Manchester United’s “special fans” could keep the forward at Old Trafford.
Decisions, decisions: Wayne Rooney's performance against Chelsea was well-received by the United faithful Photo: GETTY IMAGES
By Mark Ogden, at Old Trafford11:48PM BST 26 Aug 2013
Despite being the subject of two rejected bids from Chelsea this summer, Rooney produced a man-of-the- match performance for United during a dour goalless stalemate.
And after claiming last week that he would lodge a third bid for Rooney following the game, Mourinho admitted he will now look elsewhere for a new striker if the England forward fails to encourage Chelsea to make a move within the next 48 hours.
“We are going to close [to signing] another player if he is not coming,” Mourinho said. “If he is not coming, I want to close another player. How long will we wait? 24, 48 hours.”
When asked whether Chelsea would lodge a third bid for Rooney, Mourinho added: “We have to speak, but I think this club [United] must be a very special club.
“In every club in the world, when a player wants to leave, they don’t support him. When a player wants to leave, they give him a hard time, but they have supported him all the way, so I think this must be a very special club, with special fans.
“I think probably now, he decides that he wants to stay. If he makes that decision, we will be the first to respect that.”
Despite hinting at pursuing other targets, with Anzhi Makhachkala forward Samuel Eto’o expected to arrive at Stamford Bridge should Rooney remain at Old Trafford, Mourinho appeared to suggest that the Rooney camp had prompted Chelsea to make their initial move for the player earlier this summer.
“The person that starts the story has to finish the story,” Mourinho said. “A club like us, a manager like me, and people who work with me, we are not silly to try to get a player from a big club, a club that don’t want to sell.
“We are not silly to try something if somebody didn’t start [it]. It’s time for the good of everyone to finish the story, to one side or the other.” When asked to clarify who had told Chelsea to move for Rooney, Mourinho said: “He (Rooney) told someone that it is very important in his career.
“If now he doesn’t want to leave, we are out of the thing. But we need to know, we need to know what is happening.”
Mourinho putting it out there that, yes, they've been chasing Rooney cos he said he wanted that.
Despite his 'mind games' I agree with Mou on the point that Rooney can kill this effortlessly, he just has to say he doesn't want to leave.
Mourinho is quite right in this instance ... Rooney did start this entire saga!
Read this forum, and you'd think everyone was willing him to go.
At Old Trafford tonight, the message was the exact opposite.
At Old Trafford tonight, the message was the exact opposite.
Really? I've been feeling like a pretty lone voice lately in the "get rid" camp.
Tonight very much felt like he'll get his head back on, play well again, and in a few weeks we can look forward to the obligatory, I was confused I never wanted to go line.
I assume he's talking about Stretford here? Or is he referring to the Fergie post-match at the end of last season?
I agree. I just think we have every reason to assume he'll do the same thing, come next June, if we don't give him an undeservedly good contract offer.
It'd be naive to assume the opposite, that's for sure.
My first thought was SAF, could easily be Stretford though.
Watching on at home i couldn't relate to such an enthusiastic reaction right from the off, had i been at the game i think i'd have gone with silence or chanting for the team rather than Rooney personally.
You've got to have some sort of moral basis from which to act, otherwise without that consistency you just end up being a hypocrite time after time.
Oh no, i'm fairly certain that he is talking about Fergie there. I mean is he likely to describe a grubby agent in those terms?
JMO mind you.
think you have to remember that most fans did not fall out with Rooney this time.
And whilst nearly all will side with SAF on that dispute, now the great man is gone, its foolish to continue a feud with Rooney that that the fans did not start.
It is fair to say that with the exception of sporadic jeers/boots at the trophy parade, the reaction since ahs been IMO surprisingly positive more often than not.
As for continuing a feud, i'd want to see him earn his credibility back over a period of time before i could be so enthusiastically supportive.
People around me tonight were mumbling about the lack of summer transfers and for that reason believe we can't afford to let Rooney go anywhere, even abroad. And I have to agree, top clubs need household names and Rooney is one.
I genuinely believe had we gone and got a Fabregas, Ozil, Ronaldo or Bale...a household name, he wouldn't have got that reception tonight.
I genuinely believe had we gone and got a Fabregas, Ozil, Ronaldo or Bale...a household name, he wouldn't have got that reception tonight.
He might, sure. But is it sensible to get rid of a player now, at the very beginning of the season, because he could insist on a move when it's all over in June? Don't know about that. Tonight he played well - far better than some suspected: He wasn't thoroughly brilliant by any means, but he played well - and looked like a professional out there. Can anyone seriously claim that tonight's incarnation of Rooney is not a player who considerably betters our options? I can't.
The main argument for getting rid of him now seems to be that he's a cnut. That's not good enough for me. He might well be a cnut but right now he looks like a professional cnut and in my opinion you can't ask for much more in modern football. The only realistic alternative to keeping him is to sell him to Chelsea - and you'd have to be blind not to see how he would improve that particular team. Another "saga" may start next June, sure, but that's the nature of the business. It might not too. A lot may change in the course of ten months. If he can be a useful player for us this season I don't see - from a fan's perspective - what might potentially happen a year from now as being particularly relevant.
Easily MotM today, Only thing he could have done more was to play RvP through instead of taking that shot, but it was a game of so few clear cut chances I can understand why he shot.
Support wasn't universal for him in T2 of the Stretty, I think people who dislike them still clapped at his efforts but a fair few didn't join in with any of the Rooney chants (myself included). Not one boo though which was good.
Support wasn't universal for him in T2 of the Stretty, I think people who dislike them still clapped at his efforts but a fair few didn't join in with any of the Rooney chants (myself included). Not one boo though which was good.
I don't mind that much that he's a less than likeable human being. I do mind that he's, twice, been a disruptive one. I'm of the view that he's extremely hard to control and if Chelsea want to sign him then I'd be happy for us to take their money, as I find it just as likely that he'd contribute to their annual, off field, season derailing fallout, as I do that he'd contribute positively for them.
missed the game, but seems Rooney played very well and had his head in the game. What do people think now, more likely to stay now?
The reflections of a jaded football supporter in England 2013.
We really must get that passage carved somewhere.
No sagas next summer please, i'd rather that the club form a policy at the turn of the year and from then onward pin down a buyer, get everything arranged bar the formalities.
We saw something which resembled a professional attitude tonight, whether we also saw a guaranteed starter for United over 2-3 seasons i think the jury remains out [or with the doubts which caused Fergie to sign RVP and Kagawa].
I'm not sure that his performance alters the situation either way, if Rooney goes public with a desire to leave that might prompt Chelsea to put in a game changing bid but beyond that...
You know that if you don't want to get wound up by the 'saga' then just don't read about it?... Right?..
Who said anything about being wound up? Rather it would make for a simpler life and more efficient transfer dealings in 2013.
Yes, you could say that. In my particular case, however, "jaded" is perhaps less fitting than "disillusioned".
There is another take on it, however: What I care about is the football, not the footballers. The less I know about them outside of what they're doing on the pitch, the better. What Rooney is or isn't as a soap opera character in the media isn't all that important to me. Of course I prefer a player like Scholes, with no agent, no apparent greed, no desire to seek "new challenges", just a load of sheer football skills - that goes without saying, but he is clearly a dying breed. That's what I mean by "can't ask for much more". Rooney hasn't done or said anything which would make me demand his exit on principle. He isn't Luis Suarez or John Terry, he's just another footballer - and a very good one at that.
Well, is there really sufficient evidence to back that up with? There was the 2010 incident, which was resolved, after which he didn't cause much disruption until now. To me it seems like everything he does (or doesn't, or in many cases everything which is surmised about him) is blown out of proportion. By all accounts he gets on very well with his team mates - surely that's the most important thing. He apparently gets on well with the manager too - Moyes wouldn't have started him against Chelsea if that wasn't so, one would think.
If he stays, next summer won't feature all that much disruption and distraction - I really don't think so. Either he settles down, hopefully after having contributed well during the season, or he still wants to go - in which case he will probably be allowed to do so. His destructive influence on the team is much overhyped in my opinion. If you have a player on your hands who blatantly acts the dick because he wants out - that's a problem, obviously. But Rooney hasn't actually done this so far, nothing suggests that: He has mainly pissed off a lot of United fans who have no real insight into what goes on at the club - there's no reason to believe he has pissed off his colleagues, or his employer for that matter.
Wasn't surprised by his performance tonight. Had him pencilled in to my projected line-up. He's had the best form of Kagawa, himself and Giggs so felt he should get the nod. Didn't expect brilliance and frankly he wasn't. Had far too many poor touches and decisions for that but considering his lack of games that's forgiveable. The commitment and more than enough moments of quality meant he did well though. That's good enough all factors considered.
He'll stay. If he keeps up this we'll probably offer him a new contract later in the year and he'll sign. Or we sell him abroad next summer. Simples.
He'll stay. If he keeps up this we'll probably offer him a new contract later in the year and he'll sign. Or we sell him abroad next summer. Simples.
Precisely. Speaking as a fan, who knows little about exactly what Wayne Rooney's feelings and inclinations might be, it really ain't more complicated than this.
Twice he's kicked up a fuss. The first due to our apparent lack of signing good enough players, though it turned out the way to alleviate his concerns about this was to allocate more of our budget to his wages. This time we're led to believe he questions his role at the club. He's said very little officially, and nothing conclusive, all summer, and has caused our new manager to have to face constant media questioning, as a result. I'm also of the belief he's allowed his agent to brief against the club, repeatedly, during this period. There was another time, I forget when, where Ferguson said he was injured and didn't play him. He, I think on England duty, came out and said he had not been injured.
This is not the way a Manchester United player should behave. It is problematic for the manager and it is not good for team morale. More importantly, I think it's a terrible example to other players at the club. Allowing him to behave in such a manner is risking other players, or perhaps more accurately their agents, feeling it could be in their interests to do the same. Ferguson generally got shot of anyone who had become an issue. I've always assumed his reason was to show other players that the club is bigger than any of them. I think there's a lot to be said for that. I'd argue a lot of Chelsea's problems, over the years, have been down to the fact the players weren't kept in line.
He kept silent and put in a good shift. He has been given a 48 hour deadline by Mourinho. If he puts and shuts up, then so be it. He'll go from 'a cnut', to 'Rooneyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, go on son'..........
Fantastic performance by Rooney last night. Let's hope its the first of many this year.
good performance but some of his short passes were poor. let's hope he keeps his head right after this and start to score goals for us.
So have the cnuts made their final bid for us to reject or what?
The concerns surrounding Rooney were founded after more than a season of appearances and these shall require sustained improvement to overcome. Maybe such commitment as we saw last night will be the norm for this campaign, however one 7/10 does not a United stalwart make.
Given the right buyer and the necessary fee i believe that the club would be interested even now.
When it came to his holiday in Portugal with his family or Colleen it was classic paparazzi tactics there and i believe i said as much at the time, on the other hand if he shown himself to be unfit for club/country and the media choose to keep an eye on that specific area in the short term then maybe there is a case [although only further incriminating evidence need be reported].
From day one there has for me always been a financial case to be made as well as that of two parties going their separate ways at a natural time, in that light i think had he wanted to go PSG and hey cam up with money he would have left weeks since.
When it comes to disliking footballers for them as members of the human race there are a good number worse than Wayne.
And then the player isn't helped at all by the blind faith people like Hodgson appear to have in him to name but one. Perhaps in hindsight even Fergie wishes that he had been stricter with Rooney over the years.
Given the right buyer and the necessary fee i believe that the club would be interested even now.
When it came to his holiday in Portugal with his family or Colleen it was classic paparazzi tactics there and i believe i said as much at the time, on the other hand if he shown himself to be unfit for club/country and the media choose to keep an eye on that specific area in the short term then maybe there is a case [although only further incriminating evidence need be reported].
From day one there has for me always been a financial case to be made as well as that of two parties going their separate ways at a natural time, in that light i think had he wanted to go PSG and hey cam up with money he would have left weeks since.
When it comes to disliking footballers for them as members of the human race there are a good number worse than Wayne.
And then the player isn't helped at all by the blind faith people like Hodgson appear to have in him to name but one. Perhaps in hindsight even Fergie wishes that he had been stricter with Rooney over the years.
I think he was really switched on tonight - really got his head in the game and gave it his all. Which was a bit surprising I have to admit because he isn't the best at dealing with these off field situations as he usually lets it affect his game.
Marvellous performance from him and a reminder why his been one of the best players in the league for a long, long time.
Marvellous performance from him and a reminder why his been one of the best players in the league for a long, long time.
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