Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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WAG mannerisms are funny arent they. I love it when Colleen does that funny thing with her nose when she has something she doesnt like on her plate. Or the way she fiddles with her ears when she is talking on the phone. Or the way she absent mindedly twists her pubes into little knots when she is standing around naked.
But its all for show.
But its all for show.
Why do you even give a shit how he looks when going out with his wife?
talk about dragging a thread off topic 
Bring it to its own wag topic lol
Bring it to its own wag topic lol
I don't care, I just don't understand how someone with such a charmed life can wander around looking like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders, if I was him you wouldn't be able to wipe the grin off my face.
You really have become a caricature of yourself, Sparky_Hughes.
Im just wondering at what point to reveal I really don't mind the bloke and its ben a massive WUM..............
With all due respect that is a load of bollocks. Just because you are rich it doesnt make you in any way immune from stress or sadness. Even having a job you love, perhaps the best job in the world, wont protect you from that. In fact if anything, having everything can be a massive pressure in itself. Setting aside the lack of privacy and the constant pressure, when your life looks so blessed but you still arent happy, what then? Look at how many footballers struggle with drink and gambling problems and the rest of it. Not saying they deserve any particular sympathy, we all have our problems, theirs are no more or less burdensome than ours, but to castigate him for the expression on his face while being snapped by paparazzi is grossly unfair.
My conclusion is that some of the players get hitched too soon.
That is often how it starts, yes.
This thread has got very strange. I think I actually prefer all the weird WAG-bashing/defending to the paranoid ravings. Although Shaggy's obviously doing his best to keep the tin hat parade alive:
Yes, Schmeichel is lying. Just like all the official statements all summer about Rooney not being for sale and training well and looking committed have been lies, but all the media stories have been the truth, leaked by evil Dr Stretford.Yeah yeah
His dream move to madrid/barca hasn't materialised and he's realised we aren't selling him to chelsea so it's damage limitation time.
feck it, let's keep him.
Yep, great points. It's also just nonsensical anyway, since he doesn't look any grumpier than half the other players in those pictures. They're just normal facial expressions, perhaps slightly affected by the awkwardness of having paparazzi popping up every time you try and walk 100 yards down a street.
Some of the points of conversation that pop up in this thread are astonishing, wags and facial expressions!
I'm actually going to post this again (credit Livewire) because it supports the interpretation of events that has seemed the most obvious one to me throughout this whole "saga".
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1...redicts-manchester-united-stay-rooney?cc=5739
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1...redicts-manchester-united-stay-rooney?cc=5739
Please don't tell me you actually think you've "won" the debate just because Wayne's not being allowed to leave? Did you learn nothing from his 2010 damage-limiting statements, and the damage limitation tactics being hastily drawn up right now? Wayne wants - or wanted - special treatment; he's not going to get it, it seems, so we're being led down the "I never wanted to leave" road again. That's all.
I'm well aware there's no way to win a debate against this thread's special brand of lunacy. If Rooney leaves, it will prove you right, and if he stays it'll no doubt be 'because the club gave in to his evil demands, oh woe is me, I was still right about him being a total cnut determined to leave.'
But I do feel like your side of the argument looks ever more unhinged with every bit of actual evidence from someone involved with the club (Rooney himself, then Moyes, then the players, now Schmeichel). And that certainly feels like a win.
Also there are some who've been saying Rooney would definitely not be here by the end of the window, even after Moyes' pre-season comments about him not being for sale. So yes, it won't be long before they've categorically lost the argument.
You're not quite as deluded as wr8 when it comes to Rooney Brightonian but a close second.
He wanted special treatment, he's a bit of a brat, he's a bit precious, he's probably a bit greedy and/or easily misled by his greedy agent - this is true. It's a fair bit different to the picture you've tried to paint of him throughout this thread though. None of this makes him a colossal cnut and it would indeed suggest that in playing terms he's valued by the club a hell of a lot more than he's valued by you. Otherwise we happily would've shipped the greedy waste of space for a cut-price deal weeks ago.
"Manchester United are one of the biggest clubs in the world. Why on earth would we sell one of the best players in the world?"
"There's no Alex Ferguson anymore so we have to prove we are still competitive and we can still win championships"
"That first game I knew was going to set the tone and we went there and won 4-1 in emphatic style"
Love it when legends like Pete do that. Especially when, like Pete, they've had a spell at City, and so their loyalties could be seen as ambiguous without such comments.
For those still hanging on this all-important question, I think we can definitely say it was Australasia...
"they enjoyed sushi, black cod, beef skewers and honey-glazed duck."
Makes me hungry just thinking about that place.
Seeing the shit they spout on a daily basis, it's indeed difficult to believe that any of their 'journalists' understand anything at all, really.
Yeah love hearing Big Pete talking about the club, it's so easy to see the love he has for Utd.
That old one? Not very original at Goal, are they?
For those still hanging on this all-important question, I think we can definitely say it was Australasia...
"they enjoyed sushi, black cod, beef skewers and honey-glazed duck."
Makes me hungry just thinking about that place.
Ah thanks A1ex, I was actually wondering. I even checked out the menu, bloody hell it's expensive to eat out at a nice restaurant in the UK!
Maybe that's what was on Wayne's mind when arriving, which could explain his look of anger and confusion: why are they dragging me to this expensive place when I have limited resources? Am I going to have to pay for Ashley's missus? Who's going to pick up the bill?
Ignoring the preceding page and a half which would be best forgotten or consigned to a wheelie bin...
Pardon me for casting doubt on a legendary player such as Schmeichel but there appears to be a bit of a logic deficit from the Dane here, so much so that i have to wonder why his words are being given so much weight.
Something never actually claimed of Wayne Rooney.
Is there a particular reason why Rooney's word carries the credibility of truth and Sir Alex's ranging from knowingly misleading to bumbling about in the dark?
Neither has he said he wishes to stay, he's left his talking to his friend Paul.
What, are we back to choosing the starting XI to suit the agenda of one disgruntled player of questionable commitment at this time? Seriously?
Is that not one of the very reasons for why we are here, that the manager and 0player differed over this very point?
Rooney could have fought for this place in the team last season and fought for his place at the football club all summer, the evidence for either having taken place is tenuous.
Pardon me for casting doubt on a legendary player such as Schmeichel but there appears to be a bit of a logic deficit from the Dane here, so much so that i have to wonder why his words are being given so much weight.
Something never actually claimed of Wayne Rooney.
Is there a particular reason why Rooney's word carries the credibility of truth and Sir Alex's ranging from knowingly misleading to bumbling about in the dark?
Neither has he said he wishes to stay, he's left his talking to his friend Paul.
What, are we back to choosing the starting XI to suit the agenda of one disgruntled player of questionable commitment at this time? Seriously?
Is that not one of the very reasons for why we are here, that the manager and 0player differed over this very point?
Rooney could have fought for this place in the team last season and fought for his place at the football club all summer, the evidence for either having taken place is tenuous.
Every one of your objections is based on things you've read in the press, unsupported by quotes or sources. Essentially your argument is that journalists working for the Sun, Mail etc are more reliable sources of information on United than Schmeichel's conversation with Rooney.
Which has always been the basis for the hysteria on here. Ignoring Moyes repeatedly saying Rooney is working hard in training and is not for sale, but believing claims by third-rate sports journos that 'inside sources in Rooney's camp' have told them that he's 'upset' or 'dreams of PSG' or whatever other nonsense. And supporting that approach with the usual 'smokescreen', 'you're naive if you think Paul Stretford doesn't run the English media' stuff.
Which has always been the basis for the hysteria on here. Ignoring Moyes repeatedly saying Rooney is working hard in training and is not for sale, but believing claims by third-rate sports journos that 'inside sources in Rooney's camp' have told them that he's 'upset' or 'dreams of PSG' or whatever other nonsense. And supporting that approach with the usual 'smokescreen', 'you're naive if you think Paul Stretford doesn't run the English media' stuff.
Brightonian: dismissing what you consider to be tantamount to a conspiracy theory as "lunacy" doesn't actually mean the theory is lunacy. You're also dismissing the notion that club stalwarts past & present are going to present as bright a picture of United's affairs as they can; it's called Public Relations and, in this case, it's an effort to convince Wayne to stay. Pragmatism is key here; pragmatism from Wayne & his advisers, and pragmatism from the club; the rest is just distraction and soundbites.
Brwned: You're right in that the club - not me or other outsiders - is best-positioned to evaluate Wayne's "worth"; but practically every poster in this thread has made use of assumptions, not just Rooney's car-aazzzy critics.
Anyway, perhaps I should leave it there, as even a "victory" for Wayne's critics would be a crappy, unhappy one. Let's hope he stays & buckles down.
Brwned: You're right in that the club - not me or other outsiders - is best-positioned to evaluate Wayne's "worth"; but practically every poster in this thread has made use of assumptions, not just Rooney's car-aazzzy critics.
Anyway, perhaps I should leave it there, as even a "victory" for Wayne's critics would be a crappy, unhappy one. Let's hope he stays & buckles down.
Wrong.
Unless you are saying that Sir Alex did claim that Wayne Rooney submitted a formal transfer request?
Or that the reason Moyes couldn't state for the world to hear that the player wanted to remain at the football club was due to some plot device?
Why is your presumption of deceit residing at Fergie's door with so much certainty?
Where is the evidence to support Rooney having been a wholly committed member of the squad since May, why does he refuse to speak [putting Jose in his place can hardly be seen as a negative]?
Spot on mate. Just be careful though. Its amazing how quickly you get in trouble on here for challenging other posters' certainty. The only we 'evidence' we have about Rooney's commitment is Moye's words in interviews. Rooney's own silence also speaks volumes.
You still don't actually have any idea what happened do you? It's getting tedious now this is the third thread you have brought your imaginary issue into.
No of course not, I'm saying the opposite. So is Schmeichel. Fergie said that Rooney has asked to leave, and Rooney said that Fergie has misunderstood him, and that he'd merely been seeking reassurance about being in Fergie's plans for the future. Schmeichel has confirmed this, and Moyes has also implied the same thing.
This reads like it's google translated from another language, and I can't really understand it. Can you rephrase so I know what you're actually asking?
Moyes said so, several times. So have a number of players. And now Schmeichel.
He tried that already (explaining that he'd never actually asked to leave) and you lot didn't believe him, and it didn't stop the media speculation. What's the point in him trying again? Fans like you repeatedly prove that no matter how much evidence is offered, you won't believe his version of events, or that he's committed to the team. And as a result, there's a market for the media to carry on speculating too.
And several other United players, and Schmeichel. Whereas the only evidence that Rooney is not committed is completely unsubstantiated media speculation. Take your pick.
I'm leaving this thread after this, as it's driving me nuts. Last word: if people are seriously willing to believe that Wayne is "too busy" or "too exasperated" to personally make clear his position regarding SAF's comments and Wayne's own future, then there's absolutely no point in discussing this further. One line, one tweet or a single paragraph on his website is apparently too much to ask from a man who's supposedly innocent of all fans' & media slurs against him...
At least I now know who the real lunatics are - they're the ones waiting for the inevitable "I never considered leaving" statements when all this done & smoothed over. Farewell, and happy waiting.
At least I now know who the real lunatics are - they're the ones waiting for the inevitable "I never considered leaving" statements when all this done & smoothed over. Farewell, and happy waiting.
The "angry and confused" line was ran virtually simultaneously by every news organisation in the country, it was much more than the work of 'third-rate sports journos' and was quite clearly fed to the media by Stretford. And nobody is ignoring Moyes' repeated claims that Rooney is working hard in training, far from it, people find it suspicious when this is how Moyes responds each time he's asked if Rooney wants to stay.
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