Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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We looked ordinary with him at times last season tbf.
Yes but Ronaldo is a better player, a better professional and a better person than Rooney. I guarantee Rooney would be nowhere near as good as Ronny was. He'll probably be even worse than he was last season and that's of no use to us.
Yes. One of only 3 players in the PL with 10+ goals and assists would be of no use to us. I must have imagined all those crucial goals he scored last season.
At the risk of being guilty of being "a bit wordy", may I inquire as to whether you truly believe what you just wrote?
I'd be all for selling him abroad but there's no sense what so ever selling to Chelsea, we may as well write the season off before it starts. I'd rather keep him all year and sell him for 15m than accept 30m+ from them.
It's not just about the money, they could offer 60m but there's nobody to replace him. The money will either go in the bank or Glazers pocket, going a full season without Rooney or his replacement would be a disaster.
It's not just about the money, they could offer 60m but there's nobody to replace him. The money will either go in the bank or Glazers pocket, going a full season without Rooney or his replacement would be a disaster.
If you want to know do I want us to sell Rooney then Yes , I want him gone, do I want us to sell him to Chelsea, no not really but like I posted before , sometimes shit happens.
Moyes said Wayne's not for sale...but didn't mention player-exchanges.
David Moyes said:
This is pretty much how I have felt all summer.
Rooney stays. Ronaldo comes home.
Seems simple enough.
Seems simple enough.
I'm hoping he bans Neil Ashton.
As long as there's no foreign club coming in for him, we should keep him. Selling him to Chelsea would be the worst case scenario. Not saying I'm all too keen on keeping him. I don't really give a feck anymore, but he would undoubtedly strenghten Chelsea. Delicate situation, that's for sure.
I just hope that the fecker gives his all for us when we keep him. That's the most worrying part of it all.
I just hope that the fecker gives his all for us when we keep him. That's the most worrying part of it all.
No way, Jose!
Yes i posed that just before the interview.
Any sort of reasonable relationship had long since broken down between Fergie and the press, if the same happens with Moyes they'll have nowhere else to look for the blame but themselves.
Ashton put on this front of innocence as if he can be seen as a humble and objective voice yet he is not alone, during the Press Pass supposed journalists were at the very same disingenuous spiel. So far as John Cross could rationalise, the media will find scope to accuse Moyes of appearing weak in his authority whether Rooney is sold or not. What is worst of all, is that these people believe that their opinion should be more respected than that of you or I.
How?
Because he has so publicly asserted that Rooney isn't going anywhere Cross didn't seem to think that an argument of it being simple brinkmanship would hold up, therefore were Rooney eventually to be sold winder opinion would doubt his word. Equally were the player to be kept on and in any way pushed to the fringes the manager will risk Wayne's toxic influence spreading to other members of the squad.
Those inclined to do so will find an agenda whatever happens.
if we sell him to Chelsea we sure as hell aint gonna entertain any ideas until at least after we play them in the league at OT at the start of the season. If he is to go we will keep hold as long as possible so that he can't be an advantage to any other club.
Simple
Simple
I liked that little "you all will be wrong" bit from Moyes.
Nice that he is showing a bit of prickliness. He must not allow the scumbag journos to get on top, because it can then get very difficult, especially when results go awry. The journos must be frothing at the mouth now that Fergie is gone, to get some of their own back.
Nice that he is showing a bit of prickliness. He must not allow the scumbag journos to get on top, because it can then get very difficult, especially when results go awry. The journos must be frothing at the mouth now that Fergie is gone, to get some of their own back.
I'm so confused. September can't come soon enough so we know where we stand.
One day I think Moyes is bluffing, the next he convinces me that everything is okay and there is a place for Wayne. Such a tease.
One day I think Moyes is bluffing, the next he convinces me that everything is okay and there is a place for Wayne. Such a tease.
Until Chelsea decide to actually put in a bid worthy of notice and Rooney makes his feelings indisputable with a written transfer request, the doubt will continue up to deadline day. There has to come a point where people either front up or shut up.
World class is a word thrown around like confetti nowadays , if he wants away give him his wish and sell him.Personally i don't think he will re discover that form of 09/10 and would have no problem of letting him go to the renties.If you listen to the media we will not win the PL anyway ,so why not throw in the likes of Adnan,Henriquez and lingard and give it a go.
"He's not for sale."
It still boggles my mind
'I wouldn't sell that mob a virus'
I'm sorry, the answer was Walnut Cocktail.
Once again, how many genuinely world class players always have to have that tag prefixed by, "on their day", "when in form", "When they can be fecking bothered".
Nearly every footballer ever!
Once again, how many genuinely world class players always have to have that tag prefixed by, "on their day", "when in form", "When they can be fecking bothered".
I genuinely don't believe that Man Utd intend to sell Wayne Rooney. The Glazers, Woodward and, to a degree, Moyes himself will not want to give off the indication that with Fergie leaving the wheels are going to come off and we're going to start selling our biggest names to our title rivals. It was quite clear the powers that be at Old Trafford were chasing Fabregas to 'make a statement'. Selling Rooney to Chelsea, even for £40 million, would send completely the opposite message: Instead of saying we're still the power in English football it'd say we can be messed about by Abramovich and they won't want that.
Plus, the idea that Rooney's gone past the point of return as the media keeps saying is nonsensical. Ronaldo endorsed comments that likened him to a slave and he came back and smashed in 40 yard goals against Porto and Arsenal. Plus, look at the way Modric sulked when he couldn't go to Chelsea. Still played fine enough to later earn a move to Madrid and then there's the notorious case of Carlos Tevez and Man City. If we don't sell Rooney I don't see him taking his clubs and going off to play golf for six months!
Rooney has a contract at United, we don't have to sell him. If he doesn't want to play well for us in the year before the World Cup that's entirely up to him. I doubt he'll appreciate bad headlines about his form and professionalism though. We, not the so-called Rooney 'camp', hold the cards.
If Rooney stays he'll still be a starter. There are no benefits of pushing him to fringes, not for us and certainly not for him.
Ronaldo "wasn't for sale", Torres "wasn't for sale", even Van Persie last summer "wasn't for sale".
If United don't have any intention of selling him, why is he not being played?
If United don't have any intention of selling him, why is he not being played?
When Modric wasn't being played everyone (aka the media) was certain Levy was going to sell him to Chelsea, the deal was done, it was only a matter of time...
...Modric never went to Chelsea.
Actually, no he didn't. What he said was that after a 'shoulder injury' which never happened...he has been 'floating training' with reserves and wasnt quite fit yet...although he will be fine for a game 3 days later.
Yet Kagawa who has had 1.5 games of pre season was on the bench. Evans was on bench two weeks after ankle injury, as was valencia after only one pre season game. A 'shoulder injury' even if it really did happen (which of course it didnt) wouldnt have stopped him being on the bench yesterday if he was going to be able to play on wednesday.
Something dodgy going on (state the obv i know).
I am extremely critical of Rooney's performances in many ways because of the standard he is capable of, but he's had one season since being a top class forward. His overall game was very mediocre in 11/12 in my opinion, but he basically did the linking midfield/attack role and goalscorer role at the same time that year, scoring over 30 goals in doing so. It's been a one year since that happened and that was undoubtedly 'world class' if we are to say that it means being one of the best players in his position in the world.
Play him upfront on his own and his anxiety in his controlling a football, his inexpression in terms of his dribbling, etc probably won't be as influential. These are his main problems, where as his finishing is actually more consistent than Van Persie's in my opinion. I'm not saying play him, but I think there's a big chance it'll go very wrong if we sell him to Chelsea.
For those that don't think we'll sell Rooney, what exactly is your take on the situation?
- Rooney wants to go and doesn't give a fig about United.
- United aren't willing to sell to a major title rival, especially after failing to get a marquee name in to lessen the blow e.g. Fabregas
- Rooney will keep agitating to leave, United will keep saying 'no, no, no' unless a mega offer is made from Chelsea OR a decent offer comes from abroad
No point playing him yesterday if he's not fit enough to start against Swansea.
He's not 'fine' for the game 3 days later, hence can only play a maximum of 45 mins.
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