Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

[Feed Me]

I do too. Where's he hiding out these days?

He seems to have laid low since Cesc turned us down - the fecker's work in terms of wumming us is done for the moment!

 

[duffer]

I honestly can't see us selling to you - I believe the club understands the ramifications.

You speak about "the ramifications" of selling us Rooney. I genuinley don't think it would be as catastrophic to your season or Moyes' reign as many of you seem to. I think Moyes could even spin selling him into a positive, stong move.

 

[Feed Me]

Any normal player with half a brain I would agree with you , but Rooney has shown time and time again that is does not have even half a brain.
If he stays and buckles down and plays well and scores a shed full, yes I would be cheering but only because United would be winning.
Call me shallow but I have no respect left for Rooney.

Even if he sulks, and it costs us £200,000 per week, it's better than a motivated Rooney being at Chelsea.

 

[Moriarty]

Not really.



Yep. Not 100% but If I had to pick I'd say he will be a Chelsea player by the end of the window. £40 million.

To be honest Duff, it wouldn't bother me if he signed for you lot. As much as I've enjoyed watching Rooney over the years, it seems like he's gone past the point of no return. Having a player around the club that clearly wants to be elsewhere can really feck up morale in the dressing room. As long as we bring in a player of comparable stature, let him go.

 

[Ash_G]

I've heard people say that he could have a shit season and still get a place at the World Cup. Yes, but he wouldn't have any sort of form and fitness going into it. This is the most important international tournament of his career - as such, he'll have the apply himself throughout the season.

Yeah thats what I was saying, he'll get in regardless of what happens this season short of something really unexpected but from his own view point I think he'll want a good tournament so he'll knuckle down. Also though as I said if we say no to a move and Chelsea get in someone else then he's in a tough spot anyway and the best thing for him would likely be to get over his differences at united and try to start afresh with us. I think as well that with Kagawa not really impressing so far for Moyes he'd be even more inclined to keep Rooney unless there was another star player that we were gonna bring in.

 

[Feed Me]

You speak about "the ramifications" of selling us Rooney. I genuinley don't think it would be as catastrophic to your season or Moyes' reign as many of you seem to. I think Moyes could even spin selling him into a positive, stong move.

I don't think losing Rooney would hurt our side that much at all. He's a great player on his day, but I believe we could recalibrate our side and make up for his shortfall in terms of goals scored and created. But that's not the issue here - selling Rooney to a renowned motivator like Mourinho would be disastrous. He'd galvanise your side, IMO.

 

[Moriarty]

He seems to have laid low since Cesc turned us down - the fecker's work in terms of wumming us is done for the moment!

After that much thinking, he's probably due for a brain transplant. Either that or he's fecked off to Benidorm for a couple of weeks.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Even if we don't sell we can line up a replacement for him. I can't see him giving his best for us this season even if he stays.

That's a good point, I would get another striker in and really put his nose out of joint, only has to be a fourth choice as the other would move up a place. Or let Jesse come into the squad.

 

[Feed Me]

Yeah thats what I was saying, he'll get in regardless of what happens this season short of something really unexpected but from his own view point I think he'll want a good tournament so he'll knuckle down. Also though as I said if we say no to a move and Chelsea get in someone else then he's in a tough spot anyway and the best thing for him would likely be to get over his differences at united and try to start afresh with us. I think as well that with Kagawa not really impressing so far for Moyes he'd be even more inclined to keep Rooney unless there was another star player that we were gonna bring in.

I've seen a few people saying Kagawa hasn't impressed Moyes so far - think that's a bit harsh. He's had a more disrupted summer than most. Think we shouldn't judge pre-season too much. I'm expecting much better things of him this year.

 

[Godfather]

That's a good point, I would get another striker in and really put his nose out of joint, only has to be a fourth choice as the other would move up a place. Or let Jesse come into the squad.

I don't know if it has to be a striker necessarily. Just as Neville pointed out. WIth Rooney you lose a matchwinner. Someone who can make the difference, who can run your whole game. If he stays and doesnt give his best for us that's still a loss to us that could only be replaced by someone big.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Even if he sulks, and it costs us £200,000 per week, it's better than a motivated Rooney being at Chelsea.

I can see your point, but I would rather feck him off and get the money.
It is not a given he will do well at Chelsea, we have lost better players that Rooney and done well.
What is needed is for Rooney to come out and say what he wants and for it to come from his own mouth.

 

[Feed Me]

I can see your point, but I would rather feck him off and get the money.
It is not a given he will do well at Chelsea, we have lost better players that Rooney and done well.
What is needed is for Rooney to come out and say what he wants and for it to come from his own mouth.

I might have agreed with you if the deal could've been done weeks ago. As things stand, we're not going to be able to re-invest that money wisely.

 

[RonaldoVII]

Did you expect him to be?

Probably not, although there was an article yesterday claiming he was fit enough to start. (maybe he is...?)

 

[LARulz]

I can see your point, but I would rather feck him off and get the money.
It is not a given he will do well at Chelsea, we have lost better players that Rooney and done well.
What is needed is for Rooney to come out and say what he wants and for it to come from his own mouth.

Agreed but this is to a direct rival in the league and in what will be one of our toughest seasons for a bit (based on Moyes getting used to it etc for a while)

 

[Godfather]

Probably not, although there was an article yesterday claiming he was fit enough to start. (maybe he is...?)

Hodgson said it.

 

[duffer]

It is not a given he will do well at Chelsea, we have lost better players that Rooney and done well.

Indeed. I think Moyes is not aware of our record in signing big money forwards. Since the mid 90s Hasselbaink & Drogba are the only real sucesses. Them aside it's a horde of Suttons, Flecks and Shevchenkos

 

[Ash_G]

I've seen a few people saying Kagawa hasn't impressed Moyes so far - think that's a bit harsh. He's had a more disrupted summer than most. Think we shouldn't judge pre-season too much. I'm expecting much better things of him this year.

Oh yeah me too but I don't think Moyes has looked at him and been comforted that he wouldn't need a player of Rooneys level, especially as he's not been able to really asses Nani, Valencia, Young or Hernandez yet due to injuries/international commitments.

 

[Moriarty]

Oh yeah me too but I don't think Moyes has looked at him and been comforted that he wouldn't need a player of Rooneys level, especially as he's not been able to really asses Nani, Valencia, Young or Hernandez yet due to injuries/international commitments.

Saw something in the papers last week about a Dortmund attempt to re-sign Kagawa. I didn't pay too much attention thinking it was tabloid bollocks, but I got an email from a friend in Germany who is a big Dortmund fan. He reckons Klopp actually did enquire if United were willing to sell.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Agreed but this is to a direct rival in the league and in what will be one of our toughest seasons for a bit (based on Moyes getting used to it etc for a while)

Again I cant fault your logic, but I think Rooney could become just an added problem for Moyes in what will already be like you say a very hard season.
Maybe Moyes getting rid, could be the first step in Moyes really getting his own team together, it could also backfire on him badly.

 

[Ash_G]

Saw something in the papers last week about a Dortmund attempt to re-sign Kagawa. I didn't pay too much attention thinking it was tabloid bollocks, but I got an email from a friend in Germany who is a big Dortmund fan. He reckons Klopp actually did enquire if United were willing to sell.

Well I hope he doesn't sell him and I don't think he will, think he commented that he thinks he can be good for us. Just saying that he's surely not been able to judge enough in pre season from Kagawa to think we'd be fine without Rooney. Long term with kagawa and Januzaj it may well be that Rooney won't be missed but right now unless we get another top player in I think we'd miss him.

 

[NotoriousISSY]

Running out of possible 'solutions' to this. Player power is going to win, and only Chelsea will gain from this.

 

[Mad Winger]

Rooney to Chelsea/City is a horrible deal for us, unless we get a shitload of cash for him. Hell, even then it's a bad deal, seeing as money supposedly is no issue for us anymore.

I say we let Rooney rot on the bench. As long as he's not causing problems for us by playing for a different team, then we don't really need him in our team either. We have more than enough attacking talents anyways. If money no longer is an issue, it's a win/win for us really. Rooney will probably lose himself, gain 50 pounds, and never return to top level again by the time his contract runs out. And then the world will know that you can't feck with United. That way, we only suffer slighly, while our rivals lose out big time and Rooney goes to hell. Perfect.

 

[Feed Me]

Running out of possible 'solutions' to this. Player power is going to win, and only Chelsea will gain from this.

Why?

He has a contract - why do we *have* to sell?

 

[SirAF]

Rooney to Chelsea/City is a horrible deal for us, unless we get a shitload of cash for him. Hell, even then it's a bad deal, seeing as money supposedly is no issue for us anymore.

I say we let Rooney rot on the bench. As long as he's not causing problems for us by playing for a different team, then we don't really need him in our team either. We have more than enough attacking talents anyways. If money no longer is an issue, it's a win/win for us really. Rooney will probably lose himself, gain 50 pounds, and never return to top level again by the time his contract runs out. And then the world will know that you can't feck with United. That way, we only suffer slighly, while our rivals lose out big time and Rooney goes to hell. Perfect.

Agreed. I'd prefer to ship him off abroad, but if that is not an option then I'm all for this!

 

[Shane88]

It's not the smart thing to do financially but feck it, let him rot for two years.

He'll be someone else's problem when he's 30 and weighs 16 stone.

 

[Sultan]

Why?

He has a contract - why do we *have* to sell?

Transfer fee, and salary equates to approximately £60 Million over the term of his remaining contract. Just as was the case with RvP for Arsenal the United cannot justify losing so much money over an unhappy player. We gained RvP, unfortunately it seems we'll lose out on Rooney.

 

[Sultan]

It's not the smart thing to do financially but feck it, let him rot for two years.

He'll be someone else's problem when he's 30 and weighs 16 stone.

It's inconceivable the Glazers will not want to lose so much money.

 

[KM]

Dortmund are keeping Lewa even though there's only year left on his contract and he wants to join Bayern and has publicly said so.

Rooney will stay, I think selling him will have greater ramifications than financial, selling one of your best players to a PL rival doesn't send the right message. We don't want to turn into Arsenal.

 

[Feed Me]

Transfer fee, and salary equates to approximately £60 Million over the term of his remaining contract. Just as was the case with RvP for Arsenal the United cannot justify losing so much money over an unhappy player. We gained RvP, unfortunately it seems we'll lose out on Rooney.

I hear you, but it's a simple question: what's more valuable to United, £60m over two years or a couple of Premier Leagues?

As I said earlier, I think we can cope with the loss of Rooney, but he'll have a huge impact on Chelsea's hopes.

 

[Feed Me]

Dortmund are keeping Lewa even though there's only year left on his contract and he wants to join Bayern and has publicly said so.

Rooney will stay, I think selling him will have greater ramifications than financial, selling one of your best players to a PL rival doesn't send the right message. We don't want to turn into Arsenal.

Perfect example - and they're doing it because they have aspirations to challenge Bayern.

Oh how we laughed at Arsenal last season over RvP. The big lesson = never strengthen your rivals.

 

[Shane88]

It's inconceivable the Glazers will not want to lose so much money.

They can rot on the bench too.

 

[psychdelicblues]

It's not the smart thing to do financially but feck it, let him rot for two years.

He'll be someone else's problem when he's 30 and weighs 16 stone.

Will the Glazers see it that way though?

 

[Man-United]

Will be interesting to see over the next 7 days if Rooney plays for England and if he will be selected for the Swansea game.

 

[AttackingFlair]

Is it worth rotting him in the reserves when he could potentially be the difference between winning and losing out on a close title race?

 

[Sultan]

I'm not sure Rooney is ever going to be the player he was a few years back. Still a foreign club coming in for him would be preferable.

 

[Feed Me]

I'm not sure Rooney is ever going to be the player he was a few years back. Still a foreign club coming in for him would be preferable.

Perhaps not. But he's more than good enough to be the difference in a title race for the next two or three years.

 

[Brophs]

If Moyes does think Rooney has is past his best, it'd be some show of balls to let him go to Chelsea. There's a huge potential backlash there.

 

[Feed Me]

If Moyes does think Rooney has is past his best, it'd be some show of balls to let him go to Chelsea. There's a huge potential backlash there.

It's too late in the window to replace him. We're full of it while van Persie is around, but one lengthy injury to him and we'll be fecked if Rooney's gone.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

If Moyes does think Rooney has is past his best, it'd be some show of balls to let him go to Chelsea. There's a huge potential backlash there.

If Moyes does think that Rooney is past his best, he wont care who he is sold to, he will just want the best money he can get.

 

[Man-United]

Can you see Rooney refuse to play for us? Last time he wanted to leave he "changed his mind"(more money), this time it seem he won't change his mind on wanting to leave.