I'd hate to be reliant on RvP as the only real top top striker at the club because of injury concerns. I know Hernandez is class but we've still never really had to lean on him for any long period so I'm a bit worried about that.
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I'd hate to be reliant on RvP as the only real top top striker at the club because of injury concerns. I know Hernandez is class but we've still never really had to lean on him for any long period so I'm a bit worried about that.
The only thing these injuries are doing is taking a good £10 million off the price. Clearly injury prone.
I don't understand why he would play in a private friendly and risk injury there if he was so set on leaving. Surely he'd refuse that as well as refusing a trip to Sweden?
Maybe he doesn't want to play infront of United fans wearing the shirt again.
Or maybe he's injured.
Very plausible he's actually injured. Shame the majority can't take anything at face value, even if it is Rooney.
There is no painless way through this one, short of Roo waking up tomorrow morning with a red cape on at his press conference reaffirming his commitment to United.
My view (which aint worth much) is that we must not sell Roo before our home fixture with Chelsea and that if we do sell Roo to Chelsea that it must include Mata as part of the deal, which would involve a wad of cash our way. If that doesn't work for Jose -- and there's no reason it should as Mata is at least = Rooney -- then Roo remains an inmate at the prison commonly known as Old Trafford. Unless, of course Real or Barca come in for Rooney and have players they'd like to dangle before us -- Ronaldo/Fabregas, for example -- to make a deal work. I don't see that happening either, but I'm just throwing it out there.
I'm still not convinced that Chelsea's interest in Rooney isn't anything more than screwing around with us, but Roo is a terrific striker and Chelsea could us one. So we shall see.
My view (which aint worth much) is that we must not sell Roo before our home fixture with Chelsea and that if we do sell Roo to Chelsea that it must include Mata as part of the deal, which would involve a wad of cash our way. If that doesn't work for Jose -- and there's no reason it should as Mata is at least = Rooney -- then Roo remains an inmate at the prison commonly known as Old Trafford. Unless, of course Real or Barca come in for Rooney and have players they'd like to dangle before us -- Ronaldo/Fabregas, for example -- to make a deal work. I don't see that happening either, but I'm just throwing it out there.
I'm still not convinced that Chelsea's interest in Rooney isn't anything more than screwing around with us, but Roo is a terrific striker and Chelsea could us one. So we shall see.
Aye - and it's a reasonable worry. Good as he undoubtedly is as a finisher, will he be able to take the step up and become a player we can rely on in the - let's just call it - RVP role? I hope so, because there are few characters at our club I like better than the Mexican. But it's still an X factor.
While that's not the most crazy of theories, and would tie-in with Mourinho's usual crude M.O. when it comes to beating a more talented team than the one he manages this week, why did he not try to settle RVP or Carrick or Vidic instead? These players are, at this time, more important to United than Rooney arguably is...
This is wildly off topic - but what was that third brother called again? The portly one who used to work at one of them food stalls in the Arndale?
Because RvP, Carrick and Vidic are completely secure in their role with the club. Rooney is not.
SAF didn't claim that, he said "I don't think he wanted to play". He made up Rooney's mind for him basically and dropped him.
Agreed, but an opening bid of 20m is laughable. A serious first offer for England's greatest footballer would have been a minimum of 30m.
Oh I know them. In fact, I've had a light-hearted go at him for them. My musings weren't aimed at anyone in particular. If Rooney does manage to force his way out, I'll hand Sparky the matches to light the effigy (be hard to do from Canada, but still...)
jem doesnt know your views on Rooney, poor lad.
Surely Monaco or psg would be prepared to put 25m down on him? They've spent about 55 on falcao and cavani. also, to what extent can united just flat out refuse to sell to Chelsea, like heinze years back trying to move to Liverpool but eventually had to go to Madrid.
Everything about wayne rooney now makes me sick. Hes a dumb and weak man, Im absolutely certain he's too scared to move abroad. And would probably jump at the chance of playing with the team who have been our biggest rivals during his time at united and one who has conducted itself appallingly against us in recent years and as a club in general. He's a posion. A selfish typical modern age player who isn't worthy of the club. Demanded top signings just didn't want them in his own position and doesn't have the bottle to fight for it. Saying all that, he's a good player no matter what and selling to a rival would be plain stupid. take a cut price from abroad, will be glad to offload the inflated wages anyway.
Everything about wayne rooney now makes me sick. Hes a dumb and weak man, Im absolutely certain he's too scared to move abroad. And would probably jump at the chance of playing with the team who have been our biggest rivals during his time at united and one who has conducted itself appallingly against us in recent years and as a club in general. He's a posion. A selfish typical modern age player who isn't worthy of the club. Demanded top signings just didn't want them in his own position and doesn't have the bottle to fight for it. Saying all that, he's a good player no matter what and selling to a rival would be plain stupid. take a cut price from abroad, will be glad to offload the inflated wages anyway.
If we could push them to offer us 40m, we win.
Who says they aren't/weren't? I'm sure Rooney's agent, has had conversations with many clubs but if he only wants to go to Chelsea then it isn't really worth PSG or Monaco's time making official bids.
The man is a fool. He could have gone down as an all time legend here, not far off Charlton's record, could have done 10years + here, won many more honours.
Instead the negative stuff will be remembered, and he'll have a couple of years at Chelsea before the next big money buy replaces him.
What is in this bloke's head.
These "injuries" are getting embarrassing now. Just admit what you're doing Rooney.
Instead the negative stuff will be remembered, and he'll have a couple of years at Chelsea before the next big money buy replaces him.
What is in this bloke's head.
These "injuries" are getting embarrassing now. Just admit what you're doing Rooney.
true. so in that case, are we more than within our rights to just keep saying no until the window closes? let him sit in the reserves if he wants. he'll be 30 when his contract runs out and s quite simply not going to last many years beyond that.
Skrew it. IF he really refused to play, let him rot on the bench. It may not make business sense, but it sends a message.
is there anybody here still in any way supportive of him? I really hope not.
How dare Rooney suffer an injury! Get him out of this football club immediately!
I don't think we do. In this crazy market 40 mill isn't all that. We're not strapped for cash - nothing indicates that. We're seemingly not in a position where the profits from selling Rooney would be directly useful in our pursuit of other targets. In short, we don't gain anything from selling him to Chelsea other than the sheer pounds and pennies (which we don't desperately need). We strengthen them, potentially we even strengthen them fatally, as it were. And we don't look likely to make any signings which would immediately and obviously strengthen us in a way which would make it less important that they would get a boost (from buying Rooney).
yeah, not like he's had 2 separate "injuries" to avoid/get out of tours with a club he wants out of desperately.
I expect he'll have a couple more niggles to miss the rest of the games before he's finally sold.
As far as I'm aware nobody can really force us to sell him. I wouldn't think we will let him rot out the rest of his contract though sadly because we'd just be throwing £50m odd away to spite him.
Unless we feel Rooney's presence will be a hindrance to the club. A lot depends on how the club thinks Rooney will react to not getting his move.
So he's managed to fool our entire coaching staff and medical team that he had what they personally diagnosed as a grade 1 hamstring injury, but Sandikan from the internet thinks he knows better.Not ideal of course, but I think we are looking at making over £120 million profit this season (someone will doubtless have the right figure) with more expected next season due to Chevrolet and Nike - so we could "afford" to take the hit. Paying his wages shouldn't have that big an impact on our finances.
As an hysterical fan, I'd prefer the club taking the financial hit in the short-term by letting him rot. The way this thing has been run by Rooney/Stretford/Chelsea has stunk throughout - I say we stand our ground. But I doubt the Glazers would say the same.
he'll most likely force his way to Chelsea, in doing so, becoming the most despicable united player ever in my opinion. a complete coward of a man
That walking stick was a stroke of genius.
What's funny about that? He is England's best player by far.
Yes, that is a fair point. It's a matter of getting the balance right. Personally I can't see how he would be able to raise a stink sufficient to seriously hamper our operation, though. He gets told he can't move to Chelsea - how does he respond? By sulking in a more or less manageable way? Fine. Let him sulk. And use him for whatever he can be used for.
What can he realistically do? Go on a hunger strike?
It's an unpleasant situation, certainly, but not one that can't be handled. And I actually think that if Rooney is told in no uncertain terms that a move to Chelsea is out of the question at this point, he'll shut it and decide to fight for a place in the starting line-up. We don't know the details in this saga, but not even the whispers supposedly coming out of his "camp" have indicated that he has a problem with Moyes. That's a good thing. If he's forced to stay, the two of them can work something out.
Then, let him move to Chelsea next summer, when we hopefully are in a position that would make the transfer less risky for us.
Naivety at its finest.
Yeah I agree with you completely mate. Sadly I just can't see us going down that route, that's not to say we won't stand our ground if we think Rooney won't throw his toys out of the pram and will knuckle down and get on with playing.
Whatever happens though, selling to another Premiership team should be out of the question.
Somewhere in Argentina Gabriel Heinze sits at a computer constantly pressing refresh on the Sky Sports page.
United hold all the cards. There is absolutely no chance the British media would take Roo's side. Roo risks too much by making a mess of things were he not to be sold this summer. Poor thing, he must be suffering.
No Chelsea win. I'd rather he play in the reserves for two seasons than make one of our title rivals stronger.
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