Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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If he was a Chelsea player in similar circumstances how much would you be happy for Utd to pay for him?

£25m for him sounds alright to me.

If he was still an Everton player that would be a fair price but then your selling to a direct rival you have to add a premium onto it.
 
Chelsea already scored 75 goals last season you know, with there only being a finite number of chances for a striker to convert and this offset by reductions elsewhere in the team, what are some people expecting to happen here?

Worth mentioning that City finished in second with just 66 goals, its not as simple as Rooney has great debut season personally = Chelsea are Champions.

£40m in cash and a unified club, or zero and a player of grudging commitment amounting to a powder keg waiting to go off.

That being said Chelsea are growing awfully tiresome, three strikes and your out sounds appealing top me, one more knowingly inadequate bid and we close the door in Mourinho's face.

If Rooney is still here following a formal transfer request i don't think that either emotionally nor form wise should much be expected in the short term.
 
Well if you forget the matches before March then yeah you're right.

He was back from a long term injury Revan, hardly a fair judgement.

I think Kagawa is an excellent player, and a couple of years younger than Rooney too, but he's never been as good as Rooney was at his best, even during his best spell at Dortmund.
 
Apart from having a player who does not want to play for the club, it's an insult to the shirt.

Will you really be convinced he wants to play for the club if he doesn't get this transfer pushed through and he plays for us again?
 
RvP was on fire the season before we bought him. There's to many question marks around Rooney regarding his form, what's going on in his head etc for me to go splashing £40m odd on him. I'm not to sure if the tables were reversed that Utd fans would want us to spend that amount on him.

Luckily for us we don't need to worry about it from the Chelsea's perspective. It's not worth us selling him to them for £25-30m.

I don't even think it will be worth us selling him for £40m. If they want him bad enough then they can give us Mata and cash.
 
He was back from a long term injury Revan, hardly a fair judgement.

I think Kagawa is an excellent player, and a couple of years younger than Rooney too, but he's never been as good as Rooney was at his best, even during his best spell at Dortmund.


I don't remember that he had a long time injury, he was injured but hardly for a long time. His performances were a bit meh because he didn't want to extend the contract and even after he signed the new contract he was hardly great until March when he became our best player again. Anyway he wasn't even in out top 5 players that season if you take the entire season into context.
 
Anyone who thinks it's quite alright for us to sell Rooney to Chelsea needs their head examined.

He WOULD make a difference for them, it's maybe not as simple as Rooney to Chelsea means that Chelsea will win the league, however we would be providing them with the perfect player to fill the position they are most lacking in.

Selling Rooney to Chelsea, in my opinion, would be a catastrophic error of judgement.

I've sort of come full circle now. At the beginning of the transfer window, and after Fergie's comments at the Swansea match, I was a bit fed up of his bullshit, and wanted rid. Now though, seeing as it's likely that his only destination if he leaves will be Chelsea, I really hope he stays and that Moyes can work to get the best out of him.
 
I think it's important to recognise just how influential he has been to this club since he signed. Obviously we have had plenty of quality players at the club, but he has been right in the thick of those for me and more times than not it's been Rooney who has grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck and has dragged us back into it. He's one of 25 players to make over 400 appearances for this club, and he's scored just under 200 goals for us. For a 27 year old that is outstanding and although he has made some rash decisions in his time, his contribution has been superb. He's been England's 'main man pretty much since he picked up his first cap and the pressure that has been forced upon him, both by fans and by the media has been extraordinary looking back.

Like any top player he has an 'ego' so to speak, and being left out of Champions League Quater-Finals will have effected him just as being told that he is down the pecking order for selection will have done. If he does go, which I hope he doesn't, then Chelsea have to be the last resort for me. We all know how strong Mourinho is motivational wise and if he can give him that boost in confidence, which he will, then they have a quality player on their hands. Even last year he was pivotal in some of the games he did play in, and if we United or any other club can give him that confidence boost then there aren't too many stronger all-round players out their in my opinion.
 
Nope. Kagawa was one of the best No.10 in the world during those months. He was the best BVB player and performed excellently. Rooney's play was very average during last season when he played as No.10 despite his good end product. On 2010-2011 he was shit for the biggest part of the season. These are his only two seasons when he played most of the time as a No.10 player.

Rooney was better than Kagawa has ever been the last half of 10/11. Far better. And he was playing a 10 then.
 
If Chelsea are so determined we give them Rooney for 10M plus Mata and be done with it. He's our player and if he is going to leave he will leave on our terms. We have never been good in these situations and invariably let players go for less than the market value. That will not be acceptable with Rooney.
 
Rooney was better than Kagawa has ever been the last half of 10/11. Far better. And he was playing a 10 then.

He was better for about 2 months and a half or so, and not far better at all. But he didn't have a better season as a No.10 ever than Kagawa on 2011-2012. By not being ever in the post before that I meant not being for a big period of time (a year or more). Of course that he had games that he performed better than Kagawa, but not during the majority of a season. Rooney's best position is as a No.9 (when he's a better player than Kagawa in any position) but unfortunately for him we have a better player who plays there. So losing Rooney doesn't seems like a big deal to me cause I think that in both positions who he can play we have players who can perform at-least as good as him. Strengthening Chelsea is something else though.
 
Not in the squad for pre-season friendly in Sweden. Apparently got a shoulder injury against Betis.
 
Wayne Rooney misses the trip to Sweden, however, after sustaining an injury in a behind-closed-doors friendly at the weekend.
"Wayne hurt his shoulder in a fall during a match on Saturday," David Moyes said. "It's not too serious and I don't expect it to keep him out for too long.
"I'm disappointed he's missing the game because we were keen to get him back involved and ready to play."
 
If Rooney joins Chelsea, he'll be the catalyst they need to win the league next year.

Many say we "bought" the League in acquiring RvP last year, and I think Chelsea will do just thought should Rooney sign for them. He'd bag 25 goals for them no question.
 
Wayne Rooney misses the trip to Sweden, however, after sustaining an injury in a behind-closed-doors friendly at the weekend.
"Wayne hurt his shoulder in a fall during a match on Saturday," David Moyes said. "It's not too serious and I don't expect it to keep him out for too long.
"I'm disappointed he's missing the game because we were keen to get him back involved and ready to play."

Believable.
 
Wayne Rooney misses the trip to Sweden, however, after sustaining an injury in a behind-closed-doors friendly at the weekend.
"Wayne hurt his shoulder in a fall during a match on Saturday," David Moyes said. "It's not too serious and I don't expect it to keep him out for too long.
"I'm disappointed he's missing the game because we were keen to get him back involved and ready to play."

I don't buy that at all. Smoke and mirrors.
 
People said the exact same thing when he was sent home from the pre-season tour with the hammy injury.
 
People said the exact same thing when he was sent home from the pre-season tour with the hammy injury.

Yup, I certainly it was a ploy to sort out his contract either way.

My chance hasn't swayed with this apparent injury. Him playing behind closed doors at home is one thing - flying around Europe in friendlies with the first team squad is another entirely.
 
Yup, I certainly it was a ploy to sort out his contract either way.

My chance hasn't swayed with this apparent injury. Him playing behind closed doors at home is one thing - flying around Europe in friendlies with the first team squad is another entirely.


Also no fans present to make him cry.
 
The single most important move by the club thus far in this transfer window has been holding on to our star players in Rooney and Nani. Interest from other parties not withstanding, it is in the club's best interests in the long term at least, to hold onto Rooney through a combination of blocking any transfer plans; keeping him physically and psychologically fit and motivated through training and playing him; striving to improve the general quality of the squad; and winning football games to maintain our status and draw in the game. United is not a selling club, especially when it comes to its star players and I support the message the administration has been sending to the player, his advisers, and Chelsea since this sorry episode began to unravel.

Rooney is a fantastic footballer and it will be folly to contemplate selling him on the account of us having RVP. As we are all too familiar, in football nothing is certain especially players' fitness largely thanks to the rigours of a season. In as ill advised as Moyes's comments were about Rooney playing second fiddle to RVP were, the mere presence of Rooney in the squad ought to provide ample motivation to RVP and the other strikers to be on their game throughout as well as the added luxury of having a proven performer capable to making a positive contribution on the pitch.

To be honest I am not really concerned about Chelsea's bids or their sizes, the player remains under contract and quite simply it is United who hold all the cards in this situation at least for the remaining protected period of his contract. This is a very handsome situation to be in indeed for the club. Don't have to sell, won't sell !
 
The single most important move by the club thus far in this transfer window has been holding on to our star players in Rooney and Nani. Interest from other parties not withstanding, it is in the club's best interests in the long term at least, to hold onto Rooney through a combination of blocking any transfer plans; keeping him physically and psychologically fit and motivated through training and playing him; striving to improve the general quality of the squad; and winning football games to maintain our status and draw in the game. United is not a selling club, especially when it comes to its star players and I support the message the administration has been sending to the player, his advisers, and Chelsea since this sorry episode began to unravel.

Rooney is a fantastic footballer and it will be folly to contemplate selling him on the account of us having RVP. As we are all too familiar, in football nothing is certain especially players' fitness largely thanks to the rigours of a season. In as ill advised as Moyes's comments about Rooney playing second fiddle to RVP were, the mere presence of Rooney in the squad ought to provide ample motivation to RVP and the other strikers to be on their game throughout as well as the added luxury of having a proven performer capable to making a positive contribution on the pitch.

To be honest I am not really concerned about Chelsea's bids or their sizes, the player remains under contract and quite simply it is United who hold all the cards in this situation at least for the remaining protected period of his contract. This is a very handsome situation to be in indeed for the club. Don't have to sell, won't sell !

In an ideal World yes, but ultimately it depends on how professional Rooney would be in that final year. Unless we run his contract down and lose him for nothing, a year closer to expiration will see his price drop.

As good as he is, do you want a disruptive influence in the dressing room, or do you get rid before the rot sets in?

No player is bigger than the club and all that.
 
Wayne Rooney misses the trip to Sweden, however, after sustaining an injury in a behind-closed-doors friendly at the weekend.
"Wayne hurt his shoulder in a fall during a match on Saturday," David Moyes said. "It's not too serious and I don't expect it to keep him out for too long.
"I'm disappointed he's missing the game because we were keen to get him back involved and ready to play."

Injury prone bastard, sell him.
 
The single most important move by the club thus far in this transfer window has been holding on to our star players in Rooney and Nani. Interest from other parties not withstanding, it is in the club's best interests in the long term at least, to hold onto Rooney through a combination of blocking any transfer plans; keeping him physically and psychologically fit and motivated through training and playing him; striving to improve the general quality of the squad; and winning football games to maintain our status and draw in the game. United is not a selling club, especially when it comes to its star players and I support the message the administration has been sending to the player, his advisers, and Chelsea since this sorry episode began to unravel.

Rooney is a fantastic footballer and it will be folly to contemplate selling him on the account of us having RVP. As we are all too familiar, in football nothing is certain especially players' fitness largely thanks to the rigours of a season. In as ill advised as Moyes's comments about Rooney playing second fiddle to RVP were, the mere presence of Rooney in the squad ought to provide ample motivation to RVP and the other strikers to be on their game throughout as well as the added luxury of having a proven performer capable to making a positive contribution on the pitch.

To be honest I am not really concerned about Chelsea's bids or their sizes, the player remains under contract and quite simply it is United who hold all the cards in this situation at least for the remaining protected period of his contract. This is a very handsome situation to be in indeed for the club. Don't have to sell, won't sell !

They were only really ill advised because they were taken out of context.
 
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