He could spend the entire season in your reserves and still be the first name on the team sheet for England.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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He could spend the entire season in your reserves and still be the first name on the team sheet for England.
More or less. In fact, Hodgson would almost certainly make a point of stating how valuable Rooney is to him & to England.
He doesn't or at least shouldn't hold that status now let alone with another season like the last one behind him [or worse].
There were some reports of yet another show-down between Moyes and Rooney now that the squad are back - is this latest "report" from Camp Rooney to do with that? Seems a bit low-key if it is. But then it's not exactly news anyway - Chelsea bidding only hours after Rooney is revealed to be "angry and confused" removed any doubt about what was going on in that respect.
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If, England reaches Brazil and Rooney's hasn't demonstrated things will be different than every tournament since 2004, the teams' guaranteed starters amount to nearly half: Hart, Cole/Baines, Gerrard (influenced by the captaincy), a fit Wilshere and Carrick. Walcott is nearly at that level and all the more so if it means keeping Walcott out of the team.
The rest are competing with each other.
If not what are you suggesting, that other forwards could be having a a really top drawer 13/14 yet they are dropped in favour of someone performing less well because of a past reputation internationally?
It's England mate, you have a place or not in the team depending on your status. I am pretty sure that if United send Rooney to train with reserves and he doesn't play a single game in the next season, he will still start in the World Cup assuming that England get there.
Good to see Graeme Souness giving an insight into why Moyes handled the Rooney badly.
I mean, he made such a great job of man management at Liverpool.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...united-have-mishandled-wayne-rooney-situation
I mean, he made such a great job of man management at Liverpool.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...united-have-mishandled-wayne-rooney-situation
Janey mack, what a complete and utter tool.
who take any notice of what Souness, he is always full of shit.
This is spot on, its exactly why England never win anything, form players are left out in favour of name players.
The only swap deal that makes sense at all for us is a deal that involves Mata. Otherwise we either keep the feck or sell him abroad.
Id take that, Ramires is criminally underrated
You'd take a bag of chips and wafers in exchange for Rooney if it meant him leaving the club Sparky.
what's clearly going to happen is we end up with Ramires, Marchisio, Fabregas and Fellaini. No CM moaning after that, fellas.
Deal
I still think a fully fit, happy Wayne Rooney is better than anything else we have.
It's a shame those conditions are so hard to achieve with him.
It's a shame those conditions are so hard to achieve with him.
Yep.
That's like saying a Lionel Messi wearing a United-shirt is better than anything else we have.
We haven't got a fully fit and happy Wayne Rooney, and probably won't again.
We haven't got a fully fit and happy Wayne Rooney, and probably won't again.
No it's not, at all, seeing as Rooney plays for us already.
What a dreadful comparison.
Nonsense. All it takes for Wayne to be happy is to be in form. His little strops always come when he is off form, and that for me is the real reason for them - he doesn't know how to cope when things aren't going well. Get him fit, and the form will follow. And the attitude will follow the form.
I'm just sick and tired of all these issues with Rooney. He's never fit, happy and on form at the same time. He's probably been all of those things for about 2 seasons in his stay here.
I'd agree, if we can get Rooneys head right he is either the star or level with RVP. I don't think its a guarantee that he won't just get his head down and play if the move doesn't happen. That said if we knew we were going to sign Fabregas and could get £40m for Rooney I'd be inclined to take it, if he did really want to leave.
I take it that, when Rooney leaves United, some people here are still going to give him the benefit of the doubt over everything from shabby technique to twice making our greatest manager seem like a liar? I'd hate to think that any of our posters were inconsistent in their convictions or hypocritical...
Well England did repeat the Lampard-Gerrard mess for a decade didn't they? Not that blind faith in Rooney is the only possible mistake that Hodgson could repeat, the whole right flank is an accident waiting to happen if Milner is ready to go and no right back stands out during 13/14.
I looked at those last night and try as i might i couldn't actually connect the quotes with the tone of the headline. Rather than being all that controversial or pointed in its criticism of United it made Souness appear a bit slow on the uptake. SSN like the papers are stuck in a loop at present, same old waffle.
At this point I just want rid. He's a disturbance more than an asset if this is going to happen every other transfer window.
Ill be inconsolable..........................
No, I shall henceforth absolve him from my happy brain and place him in my angry brain.
If as is reported he wants out, for the second time in a few years btw, then why would we not sell him for 40m.
We have RVP and Chicharito deserves a fair crack at starting more. We have some talented youngsters coming through and could spend on another youngster in his early twenties.
We don't need Rooney desperately. If we are offered 40m for him we shouldn't hesitate.
He doesn't appear to want to stay - that's the bottom line for me.
We have RVP and Chicharito deserves a fair crack at starting more. We have some talented youngsters coming through and could spend on another youngster in his early twenties.
We don't need Rooney desperately. If we are offered 40m for him we shouldn't hesitate.
He doesn't appear to want to stay - that's the bottom line for me.
Assuming that they're not valuing Ramires at £25m as part of the deal we might finally be nearing the end of this saga.
Although having read the article i have to wonder if that figures is overstating matters which the Standard seems to have done with opening bid:
If we do sell him I hope we have a clause that demands we get to keep his hair.
God knows, Nicky Butt could do with it.
Send him to Chelsea with head lice instead.
If we get £40m for Rooney and don't bid at least that for Fabregas I'm going to fecking lock Woody up in Toy Prison.
How very dare you! Nicky Butt has far too much class to have Arse hair on his head.....let alone SCOUSE arse hair!
Now we're talking, if that is a take it or leave it offer I'd accept £40million
I don't think it is though, and we shouldn't sell until after the Chelsea game at OT
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