The only thing with respect to issuing rebuttals is that sportspeople such as Rooney and sports clubs would be issuing rebuttals every half hour with the numbers of rumours that appear around the world. Im not saying the quote isnt true but I havent seen a single utterance directly from Rooney along those lines.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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I saw my mate, 9 years since
He said have you seen the white Paul Ince
So I asked who is he
A whinging inflated ego
named Wayne Rooney
He said have you seen the white Paul Ince
So I asked who is he
A whinging inflated ego
named Wayne Rooney
Rooney at Chelsea would be a success of that I have no doubt. But the problem is, him being here would only be detrimental.. as he'd give half-arsed performances. For the good of his career he needs to leave, I only wish it could be abroad and we wouldn't have to deal with a motivated Wayne Rooney.
Just to be clear, I'm not a Rooney hater. But some of the stuff that's been circulating about him is too funny to go unnoticed.
I didn't act a dick at all. You straight out rubbished my opinion as 'nonsense' without any reasonable logic what so ever. What, if you give an opinion can i just reply with 'Bullshit.' and expect you to leave it there?
It's also quite funny how you then went on to abuse me with: Are you on drugs you lunatic? Why a lot of these newly promoted posters complete arses anytime anyone questions them?
In my opinion Rooney can't maintain his form for long enough to beat it. Therefore, in my opinion, he has no chance. You can't just come out, straight up rubbish what i think without putting across any sort of argument to the contrary except 'he'll easily get there in a few seasons' and then go and bitch and moan like a fecking child because i told you to think before you post.
I think there are a number of variables though, for instance the players maturity, something I think Rooney lacks, and when you combine that with what will be hostile home fans I am not sure he'll come through and play well, more likely he'd struggle and then we'd have to sell him with only a year left on his deal which will probably cut at least a third off the price we'd get this summer.
Any new news apart from the rejected bid?
Surely if you're a footballer (or anyone famous for that matter) there's a difference between an online news site or paragraph in a newspaper "reporting" some gossip about you signing for a different club/what you ate last night, and somebody going on TV to specifically tell everyone exactly what you're thinking and believing. He has the perfect place to address thousands, if not millions of fans, and all he needs to say is, "The reports are untrue, I'm not angry and/or confused".
He'll sign a new contract I reckon.
Good points. You may be right. I don't think hostile home fans will be a significant factor, be it said. But the maturity point is a good one. He may not respond well to a situation like the one we're talking about - that is a very real possibility. My hope - if we get to this point - is that Moyes (or someone else, for that matter) can convince him that doing his very best to prove himself is the only (and the only profitable, in any sense) thing to do. But he may be too thick, too big-headed or too "angry and confused" to realize this - sure.
My main worry is, frankly, that we let Chelsea have him. I think that should be avoided at, almost, any cost. As I've said before, that's part sentiment (I don't want to see him in that shirt after all these years, it would be a fecking travesty; I don't want Paul Stretford to make a penny on the transfer; I don't want the club to grant Rooney (or his agent) what I consider to be an unacceptable wish) and part sheer pragmatism: He will bang in goals for them, pure and simple.
A bit overly dramatic for what [if true] would likely amount to a phone call.
I doubt that we are baffled or that Rooney is all that angry, he might be a bit confused at not getting his own way in a speedy fashion but that's just tough.
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Clear-the-air talks are second only to crunch talks.
I'm on drugs (well, fairly mild ones) as we speak. And many I know would classify me as a lunatic. Nothing to get offended by, mate.
I disagree that Rooney can't maintain his form for long enough to beat the record. Erm, I mean - if he should keep up his form from the last weeks of the 2012-13 season, he'd probably struggle, unless he beats Stan Matthews' record as well. But you know what I mean. I think he's capable of being the PL top scorer next season, let's put it like that. People seem to underestimate his prowess as a goal scorer: He may be inconsistent (whatever that means - compared to who?) and whatever else you desire to throw at him, but he's a proven goal scorer. It's getting tiresome now, but the last time he "lead the line" (a stupid enough phrase, but that's for another debate) for us, he scored well over thirty. He is 27 years of age and looks remarkably fit for a man many here claim is an unprofessional booze hound.
I think it's best to take a combination of the two when judging a player. I feel productivity is part of performance. Iniesta is a great player despite his productivity. When we say he's great we take into account his productivity or lack of. Same with Rooney, when there are several united players who did better than him, then it takes into account everything be and they offered. Putting up decent numbers doesn't make it better because its been accounted for already.
I wasn't bothered originally about selling Rooney to Chelsea, but the more Mourinho mouths off about it the more I want us to flog him abroad.
The club are taking the right stance. Selling to Chelsea should not be an option
I'm not even sure we want to sell him abroad. For some reason, the club want to hold on to this cnut for another season. Aren't madrid interested? They love a big name signing.
Maybe we want to keep hold of him to prove a point?
I dunno. I'd have a hard time believing the club genuinely would allow his contract to run down. But maybe we will.
I dunno. I'd have a hard time believing the club genuinely would allow his contract to run down. But maybe we will.
I've no issues with not selling him to chelsea. They can feck off unless a mega offer comes in or mata gets involved. Just means we're stuck with supporting him for another season, great.
He's only had one poor season at the club and that poor season was much better than most other players we have. It's not as if he's been this overpaid millstone around our necks dragging us down.
Could be worse.........at least he isn't John Terry.
Chelsea either make a Ronaldo-esque offer or give us their best players and still pay plenty of money in addition. Both is unlikely and it looks like we just wont sell him to Chelsea
I understand stupid fans on the interwebs interpreting Moyes' comments as saying that Rooney is back up when it's obviously not what he meant, but how does Rooney who's had a chance to talk to the said manager and who should surround himself with smart people do the same?
Don't know who reads the Standard here. It's usually pretty shite but they have a couple of good writers, Dan Jones being the pick of the bunch IMO. This is a good little article about Wayne and his current predicament.
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/spo...ho-cant-see-thats-a-rubbish-idea-8716584.html
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/spo...ho-cant-see-thats-a-rubbish-idea-8716584.html
Where I live in Battersea, there used to be a very cheerful street sweeper. I say ‘used to’ because I haven’t seen him for a while. But that’s not the point. The point is that this street sweeper always seemed to be in a good mood.
Every day you’d see him, trundling around with his cart, sweeping up dog eggs and crumpled Coke cans, scratching dirty wads of used chewing gum off the pavement and piling fag ends into plastic bin bags.
He was always good for a chat and, if you got him going, he’d tell you all about his family and his kids, of which he had several, all living in a house somewhere down Streatham way, I think. A happy man. I have been thinking about him every time I read a newspaper story about Wayne Rooney.
According to the Office of National Statistics, the average street sweeper in Britain earned £17,727 last year. Rooney, hoofing a ball around for Manchester United, earns about £35,000 a day. In other words, it would take my litter-picker a month to earn what Rooney earns in an hour. And yet one goes about whistling, while the other sulks. Go figure.
Now, of course, what I am presenting here is a false argument, even if it is a tempting one. You don’t need to be Charles Dickens to work out that they don’t sell happiness in the shops. There are, I am sure, as many miserable millionaires as there are beaming paupers in this world. It’s like Biggie said: mo’ money, mo’ problems.
All the same, it is impossible to read a word about Wayne Rooney v Manchester United without feeling that Rooney is behaving in a grotesque and quite childish fashion.
It’s not about his simple, gross income. It’s more to do with the dazzling solipsism on display. Rooney seems honestly to believe that he is the best player Manchester United possess and that they somehow don’t or won’t see it.
He seems to think that the club ought to build their team around him and him alone: a player with obvious fitness issues, a history of injuries and a terrible attitude.
It is true that he has scored many, many goals in the past and also that he used to be a hungry player, capable of winning matches on his own. But nine years at Manchester United ought to have been enough for him to realise that this counts for nothing.
As everyone from Paul Ince and Andrei Kanchelskis to David Beckham and Roy Keane will tell you, the past is the past and when United players start to trade off it, they are very soon gone. “Manchester United isn’t about Wayne; Manchester United is about the team, the club,” said David Moyes this week. He has been at the club for 18 days and he knows the score. After nearly a decade at United, Rooney still hasn’t worked it out.
So it seems that Rooney will sooner or later follow all those other illustrious names out of the door. But where? I must confess to being mystified at the prospect of Arsenal bidding for him.
A less Arsenal-ish player I can barely think of. He is 27. His form has probably crested. His fitness is a problem. If he is mercurially talented, he is not exactly the most classically technical player in the world. His wage demands touch a million a month. He isn’t even bloody French. Is this the same Arsenal we’re talking about?
Chelsea I can get my head around, just about. The Chelsea team over the last decade have been full of what we might euphemistically call ‘big characters’. All the same, even if United were to sell to a rival, buying star strikers with big reputations from clubs in the north-west has not exactly been Chelsea’s greatest transfer strategy. Roman Abramovich has made a bid but surely somewhere deep down he will worry that he is circling the Croxteth Torres.
Still, it’s his money to squander and, with Paris St-Germain having just bought Edison Cavani and Monaco Radamel Falcao, there aren’t too many other places Rooney could conceivably go.
Maybe he’ll just turn up in a couple of seasons alongside Andy Carroll at West Ham. Or maybe one day we’ll see him trundling the streets of rubbish with his dust-cart and brush, the richest street sweeper on earth, finally with a smile on his face.
He was always good for a chat and, if you got him going, he’d tell you all about his family and his kids, of which he had several, all living in a house somewhere down Streatham way, I think. A happy man. I have been thinking about him every time I read a newspaper story about Wayne Rooney.
According to the Office of National Statistics, the average street sweeper in Britain earned £17,727 last year. Rooney, hoofing a ball around for Manchester United, earns about £35,000 a day. In other words, it would take my litter-picker a month to earn what Rooney earns in an hour. And yet one goes about whistling, while the other sulks. Go figure.
Now, of course, what I am presenting here is a false argument, even if it is a tempting one. You don’t need to be Charles Dickens to work out that they don’t sell happiness in the shops. There are, I am sure, as many miserable millionaires as there are beaming paupers in this world. It’s like Biggie said: mo’ money, mo’ problems.
All the same, it is impossible to read a word about Wayne Rooney v Manchester United without feeling that Rooney is behaving in a grotesque and quite childish fashion.
It’s not about his simple, gross income. It’s more to do with the dazzling solipsism on display. Rooney seems honestly to believe that he is the best player Manchester United possess and that they somehow don’t or won’t see it.
He seems to think that the club ought to build their team around him and him alone: a player with obvious fitness issues, a history of injuries and a terrible attitude.
It is true that he has scored many, many goals in the past and also that he used to be a hungry player, capable of winning matches on his own. But nine years at Manchester United ought to have been enough for him to realise that this counts for nothing.
As everyone from Paul Ince and Andrei Kanchelskis to David Beckham and Roy Keane will tell you, the past is the past and when United players start to trade off it, they are very soon gone. “Manchester United isn’t about Wayne; Manchester United is about the team, the club,” said David Moyes this week. He has been at the club for 18 days and he knows the score. After nearly a decade at United, Rooney still hasn’t worked it out.
So it seems that Rooney will sooner or later follow all those other illustrious names out of the door. But where? I must confess to being mystified at the prospect of Arsenal bidding for him.
A less Arsenal-ish player I can barely think of. He is 27. His form has probably crested. His fitness is a problem. If he is mercurially talented, he is not exactly the most classically technical player in the world. His wage demands touch a million a month. He isn’t even bloody French. Is this the same Arsenal we’re talking about?
Chelsea I can get my head around, just about. The Chelsea team over the last decade have been full of what we might euphemistically call ‘big characters’. All the same, even if United were to sell to a rival, buying star strikers with big reputations from clubs in the north-west has not exactly been Chelsea’s greatest transfer strategy. Roman Abramovich has made a bid but surely somewhere deep down he will worry that he is circling the Croxteth Torres.
Still, it’s his money to squander and, with Paris St-Germain having just bought Edison Cavani and Monaco Radamel Falcao, there aren’t too many other places Rooney could conceivably go.
Maybe he’ll just turn up in a couple of seasons alongside Andy Carroll at West Ham. Or maybe one day we’ll see him trundling the streets of rubbish with his dust-cart and brush, the richest street sweeper on earth, finally with a smile on his face.
He doesn't.
It's an excuse for his camp to stir up some shit in the hope it'll allow him to leave, while trying to avoid having to turn in a transfer request or look like the bad guy.
Obviously it has failed.
Ronaldoesque? You've got to be joking, he isn't worth Ronaldo money. He is a clearly unhappy and wantaway player who isn't first choice at United and will probably cause disruption amongst the squad to keep, paying 200k+ a week for the privilage as his ultimate transfer fee diminishes by the day.
Keeping him for another year will cost you 10 million + in wages and minus 10 million in transfer fees, for a player who doesn't want to be there. It doesn't make any sense and I'm sure despite what the club are saying, the board are thinking along those lines.
TRS and other chelsea fans I think you have to accept we will not be selling to you, it's been made pretty clear from moyes and woodward, especially so if £20 mil was your starting offer.... miles away.
I don't know if you think that if you say it enough it means it will happen, but you are never in a million years going to get Rooney unless you pay through the nose.
Honestly, what I see happening is that we'll play hardball you will get desperate on Transfer deadline day and make an absolutely ridiculous offer.
This deal isn't going to be 'value'.
Nail. On.Head
If all you are bidding is £25million then his fee won't diminish next year. We could easily get that with one year left on his contract, possibly even more because it's unlikely he'll be as poor as he was last season
Yea, he makes some good points in that article mate. He's bang on the money.
He might be unhappy but he isn't 2nd choice at United, if you remove the injuries he hasn't been dropped for that many games.
The will have to double the original bid to get our attention.
35 million MAX.
I could live without getting Rooney - for us it's a win/win situation. We either get him and improve our strikeforce or he stays and sews seeds of dissent amongst United's squad for the next season. He has passed the point of no return already.
As I said, you can say it all you like but we're not going to sell at that price. Massive wishful thinking.
He has been here for 9 years and he ain't sowing any seeds of discontent.
All you opposition fans need lessons from Peterstorey on how to do WUM's. Rest of you leave much to be desired.
On his wages, any more than that would be absolutely unjustifiable in a FFP age for a wantaway player.
If it was up to me, I wouldn't be going after Rooney and I don't think that the transfer will happen either but I think that the club have taken the decision that United can either cut their losses and a huge amount off the wage bill while we improve the strikeforce or he will stay and be an expensive problem for next season.
He has been here for 9 years and he ain't sowing any seeds of discontent.
All you opposition fans need lessons from Peterstorey on how to do WUM's. Rest of you leave much to be desired.
You reckon it's going to be happy families after this has happened for the second time?
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