Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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iSparky said:
Selling to a domestic rival could come back and bite us on the ass big time. Sell him abroad somewhere if we can. Otherwise just let him sit on the bench and become a fat feck so nobody wants him.
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I'm liking this idea. If he's going to be a pissy bitch, let him deal with the consequences. He could have been a legend. Now we'll just remember him as a twunt.
 
Solius said:
I still think he'll stay. His awful PR team are clearly at work again but that's not to say Wayne isn't a massive bellend. If we do sell him, I'd rather sell him for a pittance abroad than to Chelsea. feck Chelsea.
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Has his PR team been that awful in this saga? I think United have backed him into a real corner here and given him no real choice, his two public statements were both reactions to United led attempts at public discourse.

I think in the context of his stay at United this saga is him being a 'bellend' and another in a long line of reasons that most of us don't care if we see the back of him, but as an isolated incident I find it hard to accuse him of too much wrong doing.
 
I wont be surprised if he's got everything wrapped up with Chelsea. Its a shame considering our inability to attract the quality players we need.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
It's becoming obvious that the club are trying to get him to put in a written transfer request. I wish they would just get rid. I am getting sick of all this.
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Agreed.

INF-AMOS said:
Ay, we feck around buying players and even feck around getting rid of em!
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We're telling the cnut that he's not getting any loyalty bonus,and he can feck off if he thinks he's getting it. It's not fecking about, it's getting the most money you can for the club.
 
devilish said:
I wont be surprised if he's got everything wrapped up with Chelsea. Its a shame considering our inability to attract the quality players we need.
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Yeah if we'd been able to attract RVP last season we probably would have won the league.
 
All this shit in the media is damaging for the club. Rooney has been poorly advised for years in my opinion, and his current 'throwing the toys out of the pram' routine shows that to be the case. Now it's come to the point where keeping him would be more damaging. I'm sick of listening to all the shit and would frankly be glad to see the back of him now.
 
KM said:
Yeah he'll stay.

Woodward's statement we're not afraid of the players running down their contract was a clear indication that they won't be bullied by Rooney.
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I think you have this one wrong. Moyes' and others' comments are aimed at setting up the reasons of selling Rooney. If we were to sell Rooney just like that, majority of our fanbase would have been up in arms regardless of the fees. Now majority want him gone. Not suggesting this whole saga is engineered by the club but once his stay at United became untenable, Club needed to get their story out.
 
KM said:
Yeah he'll stay.

Woodward's statement we're not afraid of the players running down their contract was a clear indication that they won't be bullied by Rooney.
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Do you seriously think that the club is ready to let a 30m+ player to go for free? In my opinion, the club is working hard to bring possible quality replacements in before letting Rooney go.
 
Bore off Rooney. Couldn't care how he feels or where he goes aslong as we get a top replacement.
 
KM said:
Yeah he'll stay.

Woodward's statement we're not afraid of the players running down their contract was a clear indication that they won't be bullied by Rooney.
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If he meant it then it was a stupid thing to say, there's no way the people at the top will allow their biggest asset to walk out of the door on a free transfer.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
and so it starts.

  • DAILY MIRROR: Striker Wayne Rooney feels he is being "driven out" of Manchester United after "five months of negativity" which amounts to "constructive dismissal".
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I'm starting to believe more and more that he'll end up at Chelsea. All of this 'anger, confusion and being driven out' nonsense is the perfect platform to leave for a rival club.
 
If he does go, we'll need to be quick and find a replacement. Kagawa can play in the hole, but we can't force that kind of expectation on him alone. Could you imagine if we actually bid for Suarez?
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ciderman9000000 said:
Why can't we expect Kagawa to play in Kagawa's position?
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I don't mean the actual position, I mean the fact that he has to play in the hole all alone, and will be expected to deliver. When Rooney has played there for quite some time, and has delivered for quite some time. More the legacy he's left than the actual position.
I could well be spurting nonsense again though.
 
Crackers said:
I don't mean the actual position, I mean the fact that he has to play in the hole all alone, and will be expected to deliver. When Rooney has played there for quite some time, and has delivered for quite some time. More the legacy he's left than the actual position.
I could well be spurting nonsense again though.
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:lol:
 
Brightonian said:
If you think that one meant anything then there's simply no point arguing with you. He did it ages ago, along with a whole host of other Nike sponsored players, because it's part of their contract policy now to get players to just have 'Nike Athlete' there. Everyone said it when it was originally noticed and brought up. How can you still think it means anything?
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I was being sarcastic. As you say no sensible person gave a shit about the Twitter bio. The story erupted because of the greater concern that Rooney wanted to leave.

My point was Rooney was happy to deny a press story, but he chose to deny something that was a side issue.

For you, and others, that seem to think the story is a fabrication, what do you think is actually going on with Rooney? Given the lack of a denial or any public attempt at quelling speculation Rooney presumably does want to leave even though the stories saying so are fake?
 
This feels very much like both the club and Rooney trying to play hardball.

To me it looks like one wants to leave and the other party wants Rooney to piss off but take as much money as possible.

So far no bridges have really been burned. Its not too late for them to kiss and make up in a nice press conference where the word "misunderstanding" features a lot.
That gets more and more unlikely though with each snippet of information from either party.

I hope he leaves and then gets really fat in a matter of 6 months.
 
Eyepopper said:
If this does actually originate from Rooney the choice of words are interesting.

After 9 year he doesn't need to prove anything? That attitude has no place at Utd and if its really how it feels I'd argue its the reason we're in the situation we're in. The fact that Real, Barca etc aren't exactly lining up for him should maybe tell him something.

That said, I think he's tailor made for Chelsea and if we sell to them, be it for 25 or 35 million I think it will be a huge mistake, if only in the short term.
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Wayne Rooney seems to be a legend in his own mind - he probably thought he'd have his pick of top sides.

As for Chelsea, perhaps if he moves he'll get the fire back for a while and give them a short term boost - but I personally doubt whether long term he's ever likely to get back to the levels he has played at for United, albeit a couple of years ago now.

That's not a reason to keep him though. The club needs to do what's best for the club long term, and for me a new deal for Wayne Rooney as he currently is, isnt the right thing to do. That money can be better spent.
 
This is an article from James Ducker at the Times. Don't know if it's been posted yet.

Manchester United will not be bullied into selling Wayne Rooney despite the England striker’s anger and confusion at the club’s public declaration that he is behind Robin van Persie in the pecking order and unlikely to get a new contract this summer.

The Barclays Premier League champions are determined to deal with Rooney’s future on their own terms and are prepared to dig their heels in on the matter, even though relations between the club and the player appear to be at breaking point.

As reported by The Times a fortnight ago, Rooney would have to submit a formal transfer request for United to consider offloading him before the close of the summer transfer window but even then there would be no guarantees that the forward would be granted a move to a Premier League rival such as Chelsea or Arsenal.

It raises the prospect of a long and bitter stand-off but David Moyes, the manager, and Ed Woodward, the executive vice chairman, have set out their position on Rooney and will not be fazed by the latest developments in the ongoing saga.

Rooney, who has entered the final two years of his existing contract, has reacted dimly to Moyes’s claims in an interview with the Sunday newspapers in Bangkok that “overall, my thought on Wayne is, if for any reason we had an injury to Robin van Persie, we’ll need him.”

The striker’s anger extended to the hardline stance adopted by Woodward, who insisted that there were no plans to hold talks with Rooney over a new deal and that the club would be happy to let his contract run down to the final 12 months, even though that would drastically reduce the player’s transfer value.

“There are no contract renewals being discussed,” Woodward said. “I am not sitting down with any player on an extension and there is no trigger date in the diary. Would we be afraid to run a contract down? Of course not.”

United have yet to respond officially to the latest twist. The players have been enjoying a day off in Sydney – where the squad are staying on the second leg of their pre-season tour of Asia and Australia - with some due to play golf this afternoon and others considering the chance to climb up the city’s iconic Harbour Bridge.

A 60-strong party, including Moyes, his staff and the playing squad, will also attend the State of Origin rugby league match between New South Wales and Queensland at the ANZ Stadium tonight.
United feel they are in a stronger position than October 2010, when Rooney questioned the club’s ambition and threatened to leave only to be persuaded to stay by Sir Alex Ferguson, Moyes’s predecessor, and David Gill, whose chief executive role Woodward has now taken on, and awarded a five-year contract worth £250,000 a week.

Even if Rooney submitted a written request to leave in the weeks ahead, United would first need to find a replacement and may block a proposed move to Chelsea or Arsenal by insisting that he could only leave for a club overseas.

But Rooney’s options in that respect would appear limited, with Bayern Munich and Real Madrid showing no interest in the player and Barcelona already having signed Neymar, the Brazil forward. Furthermore, Paris Saint Germain – whom Rooney is said to be opposed to joining – have just signed Edinson Cavani from Napoli and Monaco have already bought Radamel Falcao, the Colombia striker, from Atletico Madrid.

United also believe that if Rooney is forced to stay, he would have little choice but to offer his full commitment to Moyes and the team over the coming season given that he will need to impress Roy Hodgson, the England manager, with the World Cup finals taking place in Brazil next summer and any potential suitors who might want to sign him at a knockdown price.
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Constructive dismissal......:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Ive changed my mind...keep the petulant little tart and sit him in the reserves for two years....now THAT is constructive dismissal.
 
Monaco could do with Rooney tbh because apart from Falcao, they don't have another quality striker. If only they were interested though :(, the club would be able to sell Rooney at an excess.
 
I can't believe people are using what Moyes said to defend Rooney. Even if you believe it is okay to be annoyed by what was said what was to stop Rooney clarifying it with Moyes himself? Instead what we have our his people running to his friends in the media to ensure Rooney isn't exposed for the grubby little child he is. That Utd fans can still be manipulated by the little twerp is beyond me.
 
Shit just got real. Bid rejected from Chelsea according to SSN.
 
acnumber9 said:
I can't believe people are using what Moyes said to defend Rooney. Even if you believe it is okay to be annoyed by what was said what was to stop Rooney clarifying it with Moyes himself? Instead what we have our his people running to his friends in the media to ensure Rooney isn't exposed for the grubby little child he is. That Utd fans can still be manipulated by the little twerp is beyond me.
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Rooney > United for some fanboys. And then you have the muppets who want Moyes out who will take any excuse to have a pop.

Really, there are all kinds of muppets who would be happier if they switched to "supporting" Chelsea. They'd be happier there.
 
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