Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Personally I think he was angling for another better contract. Fair play to the club for saying prove you're worth it

I'm thinking the same. The original stories about Rooney asking to leave again came about two hours after the SAF retirement rumours. If you wanted a new contract - it's the perfect time to kick up a fuss.
 
What do you think is going on with Rooney then? Since Ferguson's remarks we have hear nothing from Rooney apart from a particularly strange statement regarding the removal of Manchester United from his Twitter bio. Rooney, accurately judging that this was the key concern of Manchester United fans and the media at large, was quick to deny it had occurred.

If you think that one meant anything then there's simply no point arguing with you. He did it ages ago, along with a whole host of other Nike sponsored players, because it's part of their contract policy now to get players to just have 'Nike Athlete' there. Everyone said it when it was originally noticed and brought up. How can you still think it means anything?
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.
Well, if Rooney fecks off because we're a sinking ship I hope to God he leaves some room on his life-raft for you and your like to join him. If you're not a WUM, I genuinely have no idea why you bother with being a United fan.
 
The Sun went so far as to put it on their front page:

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You're right sir. There's new future for us, we are all doomed. Going to support Chelsea or City next season.


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The defeat to those blokes from Taiwan was the last straw for me - I'm off to shoot myself with an Official Manchester United Luger©®.
 
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The defeat to those blokes from Taiwan was the last straw for me - I'm off to shoot myself with an Official Manchester United Luger©®.

Of course. When we cannot defeat some Thai random team, how on Earth we are going to survive the likes of Bayern or Barca. And even worse, without the fat Rooney. I had just burned my United shirt and changed the United photos on my facebook with those of Chelsea and City (haven't decided yet which to support, waiting on their transfers first).
 
It baffles me what Rooney thinks he will get at Chelsea that he wasn't already getting here. Are they going to pay him any more than we already were? Can they offer him a greater chance of trophies than the current Premier League champions can?

Stupid cnut. I've backed him quite a bit through all this. Not that I've understood what he was at, but that I think he's a better player than he gets credit for on here, but he isn't worth all this bother. I'm bored of it all now, and wish he'd just feck off and act the cnut somewhere else.
 
I'd very much look forward to life without Rooney. I wasn't angry the first time, then this summer he Pissed me off. I calmed down recently and was prepared to accept him back but Nah he can do one if he thinks he's Mr Special.
 
Jose's bound to love a player who strolls around, gets out of breath & just wellies the ball towards goal when he can't be arsed to run or beat a man.
 
Jose's bound to love a player who strolls around, gets out of breath & just wellies the ball towards goal when he can't be arsed to run or beat a man.

Oh i reckon Jose could get a short term bounce out of Rooney, its durability past 18 months would quite another matter.

A pity the players aren't mic'd up, the sledging of Rooney by our players in the first match against his new team will be amusing i'm sure.
 
I don't know what John's deal is. I remember him in the newbs and he was fine. He always had a bit of a hard on for Rooney and Carrick but he would never implode like the countless times he has last season and this summer.
 
You cant seriously believe that Rooney was "told" anything through Moyes comments to the press. A) He didnt say Rooney is a backup B) Even if it was decided Rooney is a back up, he'd be told before the press C) Rooney brought the situation upon himself and has nobody to blame but himself. The length people go to defend him is retarded :wenger:


Read the fecking post again you gimp before you refer to me as retarded. I'm one of moyes big fan and majorly pissed off with Rooney but don't let that get in the way of your spasticated assumptions.
 
Moyes didn't really say he was back-up to RVP, though. He said he wanted to be able to play them both, and if RVP was injured he'd need Rooney. He then went on to say he'd want to give games to Hernandez and Welbeck too. The implication of that, to me, was that he saw Rooney an important player, part of his first choice partnership, and very much needed if our other main striker suffers an injury as he's of higher priority than the other two.
 
As a Chelsea fan I'm not entirely sure what Rooney has done wrong other than be a hypocrit. In my
Opinion it seems Rooney wants a new challenge in his peak years, as he realises he isn't first choice at United. Fans complain when players happily sit on the bench and pick up a pay check. I think it's good to see a player that just wants to play football. This is assuming it wasn't intended to just get a new contract or something.
 
As a Chelsea fan I'm not entirely sure what Rooney has done wrong other than be a hypocrit. In my
Opinion it seems Rooney wants a new challenge in his peak years, as he realises he isn't first choice at United. Fans complain when players happily sit on the bench and pick up a pay check. I think it's good to see a player that just wants to play football. This is assuming it wasn't intended to just get a new contract or something.
Handing in two transfer requests and holding the club for ransom after the first doesn't matter?
 
Hopefully if this is it for Rooney the transfer can be done quickly. Great player, with a good few years left in him but a hassle we can do without. Previously I'd thought if Moyes and Rooney could sort things out it would be beneficial to both parties if he stayed. I've changed my mind. I personally don't see the problem with Moyes' comments about RVP being first choice because they are true. I honestly do not understand Rooney, isn't it up to him to work his way back into the team and prove he's first choice?? As Roy Keane said you have to prove yourself every time you go out and play. I can't understand why he would think he longer has to do this.

Bye bye Rodney
 
As a Chelsea fan I'm not entirely sure what Rooney has done wrong other than be a hypocrit. In my
Opinion it seems Rooney wants a new challenge in his peak years, as he realises he isn't first choice at United. Fans complain when players happily sit on the bench and pick up a pay check. I think it's good to see a player that just wants to play football. This is assuming it wasn't intended to just get a new contract or something.


Instead of being happy to be on the bench and getting paid he just complained about it without putting out any effort to rectify the situation, which is worse in my opinion.
 
As a Chelsea fan I'm not entirely sure what Rooney has done wrong other than be a hypocrit. In my
Opinion it seems Rooney wants a new challenge in his peak years, as he realises he isn't first choice at United. Fans complain when players happily sit on the bench and pick up a pay check. I think it's good to see a player that just wants to play football. This is assuming it wasn't intended to just get a new contract or something.



He's hardly sitting on the bench though. He still features regularly and played in most games. Those where he didn't were generally a product of his poor form. Of course it's intended to get a new contract. Anyone who still see's Rooney as someone who just loves playing the game and isn't obsessed with earning more money needs to remember the sort of person he is.
 
I find it hard to favour a manager with no connection to the club that we plucked from a midtable team 2 months ago over our 4th top goalscorer of all time. Maybe it's just me...

On the latest newspaper stories, if true I'd just say "oh well, tough shit Wayne, you've been told you're staying so you might as well accept it." No need for the embarrassing hissy fits we've seen on here.

This whole "bigger than the club" thing is getting on my tits - yet another meaningless phrase and intangible bollocks that has no basis, I'll file it with "signal of intent" as my biggest pet peeves on here. What does it mean to be bigger than the club? Nothing - what does it mean to think you're bigger than the club you play for? Wanting to leave? Well I guess near enough every player in the world has been guilty of thinking they're bigger than their club at one point in their career.. Even funnier is the when the same people claiming this are pressurising the club into selling Rooney because they personally are getting all emotional over the player (which is rather pathetic in itself), as if the fact they're acting like a broken hearted teenage girl because a player wants to leave should take priority over the interests of the team.
 
I find it hard to favour a manager with no connection to the club that we plucked from a midtable team 2 months ago over our 4th top goalscorer of all time. Maybe it's just me...

On the latest newspaper stories, if true I'd just say "oh well, tough shit Wayne, you've been told you're staying so you might as well accept it." No need for the embarrassing hissy fits we've seen on here.

This whole "bigger than the club" thing is getting on my tits - yet another meaningless phrase and intangible bollocks that has no basis, I'll file it with "signal of intent" as my biggest pet peeves on here. What does it mean to be bigger than the club? Nothing - what does it mean to think you're bigger than the club you play for? Wanting to leave? Well I guess near enough every player in the world has been guilty of thinking they're bigger than their club at one point in their career.. Even funnier is the when the same people claiming this are pressurising the club into selling Rooney because they personally are getting all emotional over the player (which is rather pathetic in itself), as if the fact they're acting like a broken hearted teenage girl because a player wants to leave should take priority over the interests of the team.
Some people here are going overboard, that's true, but the phrase 'bigger than the club' or whatever you want to call it is very much relevant.

He's being paid vast sums of money to participate in and do his best for a football club. Moyes was quoted and taking the entire quote on board, he was clearly saying Wayne is an integral part of the team.

Wayne then throws ANOTHER fit and apparently now he wants to move to Chelsea? What will happen if we don't sell? Is he gonna leak some shit to the press again next time he's dropped? Or is Moyes gonna feel forced to play him to keep the speculation away?

Why should the club accept that? He wants to be the main man and 'won't play second fiddle' to someone? With a contract he should be doing what he's fecking told. But in the world of football, he thinks he's bigger than his employers so now he can just get a move to away?

It's the equivalent to working on a bar and throwing a bitch fit because you've been asked to do an hour in the kitchen today.

If anyone was working for a company where morale, togetherness, team work and spirit were one of the main catalysts for success, what would happen to him? He'd be sacked. But then this is football, so he'll be sold. The fact that a lot of people love this 'company' dearly means a lot of people are pissed off about his behaviour. It was never going to turn out any other way.
 
It baffles me what Rooney thinks he will get at Chelsea that he wasn't already getting here. Are they going to pay him any more than we already were? Can they offer him a greater chance of trophies than the current Premier League champions can?

Stupid cnut. I've backed him quite a bit through all this. Not that I've understood what he was at, but that I think he's a better player than he gets credit for on here, but he isn't worth all this bother. I'm bored of it all now, and wish he'd just feck off and act the cnut somewhere else.

Chelsea can offer all this, plus a change of scenery.
 
Where is this Chelsea stuff coming from anyway? Not doubting it before checking, I just haven't read anything concrete. It'd be a potential disaster if Rooney went to Chelsea - I'd rather sell him abroad for a shite price than risk that. Only way I'd entertain that is we somehow got Mata and there's obviously no chance of that happening.
 
I find it hard to favour a manager with no connection to the club that we plucked from a midtable team 2 months ago over our 4th top goalscorer of all time. Maybe it's just me...

On the latest newspaper stories, if true I'd just say "oh well, tough shit Wayne, you've been told you're staying so you might as well accept it." No need for the embarrassing hissy fits we've seen on here.

This whole "bigger than the club" thing is getting on my tits - yet another meaningless phrase and intangible bollocks that has no basis, I'll file it with "signal of intent" as my biggest pet peeves on here. What does it mean to be bigger than the club? Nothing - what does it mean to think you're bigger than the club you play for? Wanting to leave? Well I guess near enough every player in the world has been guilty of thinking they're bigger than their club at one point in their career.. Even funnier is the when the same people claiming this are pressurising the club into selling Rooney because they personally are getting all emotional over the player (which is rather pathetic in itself), as if the fact they're acting like a broken hearted teenage girl because a player wants to leave should take priority over the interests of the team.


1) A player who thinks that he can do whatever he wants in the club, who thinks that the manager has no right to drop him or play him out of position and who doesn't care a bit or show respect to the club.

2) Wayne Rodney
 
Going back to these sentiment purported to come from Rooney.

When a player no longer feels that they need prove anything, is their mentality really suitable for competing at the elite level any longer [at least for United]? Furthermore to declare such publicly, well it could hardly go forgotten by either the manager of his team mates.

Where is this Chelsea stuff coming from anyway? Not doubting it before checking, I just haven't read anything concrete. It'd be a potential disaster if Rooney went to Chelsea - I'd rather sell him abroad for a shite price than risk that. Only way I'd entertain that is we somehow got Mata and there's obviously no chance of that happening.

The most recent rumours relate to a Neil Ashton article in the Daily Mail [said to have quite a cosy relationship with the people at Stamford Bridge], in which he claimed that they had prepared an offer involving a £30m fee for United and 240k per week for Rooney. Whilst that might tick Wayne/Stretford's box it falls a distance short of a figure United might consider in selling to an immediate domestic rival.
 
Don't see why he's being vilified for Moyes' comments about his squad status, other things he's done, maybe but not this. Tbh, it was a retarded thing for the manager to come out and say.

A star player, a major part of the way you play, one of the best players in the league and experienced, seasoned professional, who's been massively important to the clubs success, over the last decade and a player who you've repeatedly stated is not for sale and you want to stay.

Surely when asked about his importance to the squad, you do the professional thing and state that he is a big player and much needed?

Nah, he's just back up to RVP, sure.

If my boss said that about me, I'd tell him to go feck himself.

I can't agree with him wanting to leave in the first place and he deserves all the stick he gets over that one, but not for being angry at being dismissed like that.

Lets call a spade a spade, it was a fecking stupid thing for the manager to say, whether he meant it or not. He's weakened our position now, with regards t selling him.
 
Don't see why he's being vilified for Moyes' comments about his squad status, other things he's done, maybe but not this. Tbh, it was a retarded thing for the manager to come out and say.

A star player, a major part of the way you play, one of the best players in the league and experienced, seasoned professional, who's been massively important to the clubs success, over the last decade and a player who you've repeatedly stated is not for sale and you want to stay.

Surely when asked about his importance to the squad, you do the professional thing and state that he is a big player and much needed?

Nah, he's just back up to RVP, sure.

If my boss said that about me, I'd tell him to go feck himself.

I can't agree with him wanting to leave in the first place and he deserves all the stick he gets over that one, but not for being angry at being dismissed like that.

Lets call a spade a spade, it was a fecking stupid thing for the manager to say, whether he meant it or not. He's weakened our position now, with regards t selling him.
I don't think he actually said that, to be honest. He said he'd be looking to play them both.
 


Going back to these sentiment purported to come from Rooney.

When a player no longer feels that they need prove anything, is their mentality really suitable for competing at the elite level any longer [at least for United]? Furthermore to declare such publicly, well it could hardly go forgotten by either the manager of his team mates.



The most recent rumours relate to a Neil Ashton article in the Daily Mail [said to have quite a cosy relationship with the people at Stamford Bridge], in which he claimed that they had prepared an offer involving a £30m fee for United and 240k per week for Rooney. Whilst that might tick Wayne/Stretford's box it falls a distance short of a figure United might consider in selling to an immediate domestic rival.

Cheers. I was worried that there'd been something a little more certain than that - not arsed if he moves but there's no way it'd be a good idea to sell him to Chelsea. I can't think of a worse club we could sell him to actually, all things considered.
 
I don't think he actually said that, to be honest. He said he'd be looking to play them both.

First line of the interview.
"Overall my thought on Wayne is, if for any reason we had an injury to Robin van Persie, we'll need him,"

No matter what he meant by that, it was a fecking stupid thing to say. Had no need to put it like that, unless he was trying to rattle Rooney.

Could have easily just said, "Wayne Rooney remains a very important part of the team."
 
First line of the interview.
"Overall my thought on Wayne is, if for any reason we had an injury to Robin van Persie, we'll need him,"

No matter what he meant by that, it was a fecking stupid thing to say. Had no need to put it like that, unless he was trying to rattle Rooney.

Could have easily just said, "Wayne Rooney remains a very important part of the team."
He said this, which hasn't been focused on

"I want to be able to play the two of them, I want to use Danny Welbeck and Javier Hernández as well. I want to give myself as many options as possible."
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guaridiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.

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He said this, which hasn't been focused on

"I want to be able to play the two of them, I want to use Danny Welbeck and Javier Hernández as well. I want to give myself as many options as possible."

He might have meant it that way, but none of us know if he meant it like that or if he meant it as a slight on Rooney. What we do know, is the way he said it is kind of a slap in the face to Wayne. There are so many other ways to say it that wouldn't cause any problems, but saying if Van Persie is injured we'll need him automatically makes it seem as if Moyes doesn't see him as a starter.
 
I genuinely think he meant that RVP and Rooney are his first choice pair, and if anything were to happen to RVP he'd really need to rely on Rooney as one of his senior strikers.
 
He said this, which hasn't been focused on

"I want to be able to play the two of them, I want to use Danny Welbeck and Javier Hernández as well. I want to give myself as many options as possible."

Still, that's hardly a glowing recommendation either. May as well say "aye, I'll pick him the odd time 'cause I have other options, you know"
 
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