Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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TBF you have to say Moyes' comments about being a "backup" were meant to be deliberately inflammatory. Had he simply left it as wanting them to play together there wouldn't have been a problem.

You have to wonder why Moyes went down this route, either that or he didn't realize what he was saying which would be a very bad thing.

Yet no less inflammatory than SAF's comments regarding rooney last season. Moyes has simply continued the same theme, which i don't find that radical personally. I would have found it far stranger if he had adopted a stance that contrasted with SAF's view. Rooney should be no more confused by his current situation than he was last season, where he was clearly playing under SAF as 'backup' to RVP.

Rooney's appalling reaction to SAF signing the standard of player that Rooney himself shouted for only a couple of seasons ago is ironic indeed. A clear case of 'Careful what you wish for Wayne, you might not get quite what you expected.....':D
 
To be honest the only irritating thing about this is that people still give a feck about Wayne Rooney. My ideal scenario with him this summer was he tried to kick up a fuss, no one really gave a shit so he had to settle back down at United...and then he got sold anyway for not being worth his wages...preferably to someone like Arsenal.

Apparently people give a shit, which is a shame. Will still be happy to see the back of him and any accompanying circus. I'm usually all for siding with players who decide they want to play elsewhere (Pogba, Berbs, even Tevez to an extent). I find Rooney an embarassment though. Not so much him as the fact the club have decided to pedestal him, when he's a spoilt, dislikable brat with terrible levels of dedication, who rarely if ever even manages to be the club's top performer over a season.

He's been given leeway and even rewarded in situations where the club have told other very good players to feck off. He's done nothing to justify that, beng ut performed by the likes of Michael Carrick and Johnny Evans...and yet people still act like he's the most important thing at the club. THAT annoys me, and I don't think it's done us or him any good...and now (and pretty much since 2010), I'd rather he just wasn't a United player.

He's so good and dedicated to his profession, he legitimately wasn't either good or fit enough to even get in our team for our biggest game of last season.
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.

I knew this would break you. I knew it, and I feel good knowing it has.
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.
I've got no words for you, John. Terribly negative post. & that's being kind.
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.


Good attempt, will surely catch some people out.
 
Fergie was selfish for not retiring earlier?

fecking hell. That bit is Possibly the worst thing I have ever seen posted.
 
In 2010 he wanted to leave apparently because the club had stopped competing for the top players. So now when the club sign a top player who has taken his place he is upset about it and wants to leave.

Further proves it was all about the money back in 2010 as well.
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.

Jesus fecking Christ. One of the worsts posts I've read.
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.


No white text? I'm going to bed
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.

Well feck me with a stick, we may as well just close the doors and call it here.
 
In 2010 he wanted to leave apparently because the club had stopped competing for the top players. So now when the club sign a top player who has taken his place he is upset about it and wants to leave.

Further proves it was all about the money back in 2010 as well.
Yep, certainly nowhere near being a bright spark either. Turned around and apologized, admitting "2010" was the biggest mistake of his life...only to then throw a hissy fit & repeat said "2010" actions again :lol:

It was all about the money. Scum.
 
He's gotten plenty of bites with it. I mean, surely that isn't serious?
 
"Fans of this football club are so weird."

the first line is possibly the greatest line.
 
With the Thiago debacle and this, some have lost the plot.

Better players have left the club. If Rooney leaves the country and we sign a couple of players we'll be challenging for all the domestic trophies next year. Get a grip lad.
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.

Even I find this unacceptable. And if you've lost me, you've lost the country. :smirk:
 
He wants to leave Utd because they were never able to solve his hair problem. Once he gets down to Chelsea they will staple a toupee on his head, Weekend at Bernies style and all will be right in his world again.
 
Wayne Rooney sees Man United's negativity as "constructive dismissal" and wants transfer to Chelsea

By Martin Lipton (assisted by Stretford's hand up his ass )
16th July 2013

Wayne Rooney wants to quit Manchester United after being left “angry and confused” by new Old Trafford boss David Moyes.

England ace Rooney feels he is being driven out of the club after five months of negativity which is tantamount to “constructive dismissal”.

And Moyes’ suggestion that the Scouse star is effectively no more than an understudy to Robin van Persie was the final straw for Rooney, who believes Chelsea would be his perfect fit.

Rooney, now back in Manchester after being sent home from United’s pre-season tour of the Far East and Australia with a hamstring injury, was stunned when he read Moyes’ comments about his status at the club.

The 27-year-old contacted United for clarification after Moyes said he was needed by the club “if, for any reason, we have an injury to Robin”.

Moyes’ comments were seen as a calculated insult by a player who feels he is at the peak of his career and who has no intention of allowing his football to go backwards.

Rooney, fourth on United’s all-time scoring list with 197 goals in 402 appearances since his £25.6million move from Everton in 2004, is understood to be furious at the idea that he is now little more than a squad player.

The striker, already England’s fifth-highest scorer, is not prepared to play second fiddle at United and does not believe he has anything to prove after nine successful seasons at Old Trafford.

Rooney feels he can no longer stay at United in the wake of Moyes’ comments, and is not going to spend the two remaining years of his Old Trafford contract as a “non person”.

With the striker desperate to finally make a mark at a World Cup finals in Brazil next summer, there now seems no way Rooney can possibly knuckle under and accept his reduced status.

Rooney is aware that both Arsenal and Chelsea want him, although he believes United would prefer to sell him to the Gunners rather than a potential title rival.

As the Mirror revealed last month, Chelsea - now back under the command of Jose Mourinho - is his preferred destination.

Although the Blues have so far not made a bid, now Rooney has effectively confirmed he no longer wishes to play for a club which does not value him, the door is open for Mourinho to take the next step.

Selling Rooney would help to finance Moyes’ move for Barcelona’s attacking midfielder Cesc Fabregas.

United would not comment on this latest twist in the tale when contacted late tonight, but maintained Rooney is not for sale.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...chester-united-transfers-wayne-rooney-2058165
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.

You're a WUM right? As in your whole post is a wind up surely? It's not a ridiculous notion to believe that United are one of the best and biggest clubs in the world. We are. It's only five years since we won the biggest prize in world club football. We've been in the decider of that same competiton twice since that. Only six clubs in the whole world have won that competiton more times than we have. Real Madrid have won it 9 time but haven't won it in 11 years. Are they no longer one of the biggest and best clubs in the world?

We compete in and have dominated for 20 years one of the top 3 leagues in the world. We have just topped the league in which two teams, backed by Oil money have signed many of these players you claim have eluded us. I will agree with you on the point that we are almost certainly on the decline. We have lost the greatest manager ever to be involved in the game. It would be ridiculous to expect another 20 years of domination, especially with the clubs run by Oligarchs sure to just keep investing until they win more and more titles. But for you to suggest that this decline will go so far as to see United not compete in Europe anymore is juat as ridiculous. We are one of, if not the, most profiatable clubs in the world. We are one of the most supported clubs in the world and we have the biggest Stadium in the league which we pretty much fill every week. We may not have a Sugar Daddy owner, but we will have the finances to compete at the very top level for the forseeable future. Yes, we have brought in a manager who is unproven at this elite level, but so what? In the job he has done at Everton he has proven he is an excellent manager and there is nothing to suggest he won't be able to make the step up. Yes, his record away against the top teams was poor, but he had a vastly inferior team going into those games.

I'm not even going to address your point that Sir Alex should have gone a year earlier to accomodate a manager, who himself has faced no major challenges in his career. I reckon I would have won a few things with that Barca team.

To Rooney, I completely disagree that Rooney wants to leave because he sees the club is in decline. He wants to leave because he is no longer the top dog and the club no longer wants to pander to his every request. He's not happy because he was dropped for some big games this year. If his answer to this is to hand in a transfer request instead of looking at himself and asking himself what he could have done to ensure he was still one of the first names on the team sheet, then Good bye and good luck Wayne. Also, can you explain to me, how losing a player who was off form last year would see us go from topping the table to struggling to hold on to fourth place next year?
 
Anyone else notice how quite Rooney was when Paul Stretford was banned? Six months later, he staged a transfer issue to get Rooney a new contract. Stretford has been a terrible influence on him in terms of ego-stroking.

I want him gone but not to Chelsea or Arsenal. No way PSG are interested now unless they sell Ibra. Real and Barca won't want him either.
 
'Constructive dismissal' eh? Bet he won't sue though; liars don't tend to risk the real thing when they can use the court of public opinion at their whim...
 
The Telegraph's Roy Hayes was just questioning Moyes' competence to handle our transfer dealings this summer both in and out of the club, going on to imply that the United support could soon to start to show their dissatisfaction. A Talksport presenter even went so far as to cite the rejection of our Baines bid as an example prior to that.

Some in the press may increasingly use this situation to target Moyes.

They also seem to think that Rooney can join Chelsea on terms to the advantage of each, this is a World Cup year and Rooney doesn't need a crap pre-season and disruption, let's see him ditch the loyalty bonus and Roman cough up an amount of cash in line with the bluster.
 
Obviously Moyes is wasting his time wining & dining the press, as they'll only poison his food while he's charming them.
 
The Telegraph's Roy Hayes was just questioning Moyes' competence to handle our transfer dealings this summer both in and out of the club, going on to imply that the United support could soon to start to show their dissatisfaction. A Talksport presenter even went so far as to cite the rejection of our Baines bid as an example prior to that.

Some in the press may increasingly use this situation to target Moyes.


Hmm...perhaps the answer to why SAF outed Rooney before he left is right here then.

Rooney probably wanted to leave regardless of who's in charge. If we had found out about the transfer request AFTER Moyes joined perhaps it would've caused a rift amongst the fans with more and more people believing that Moyes is the reason why Rooney wanted to leave. This would've caused significant problems for Moyes to get the fans on his side considering he is hardly the most popular appointment as it is. As such with Fergie outing him the way he did most fans seem to be on Moyes' and the club's side and against Wayne.

Perhaps this was Fergie's way of protecting Moyes and making sure that even if Wayne is gone the fans will remain with Moyes on this one. (Except John and wr8)
 
Fans of this football club are so weird. It is the worst crime imaginable for a player to question his future and perhaps have aspirations which lie elsewhere. It is important to respect a player's professional decision, they are not robots, they have their own desires. And I imagine most players do not have the ridiculous notion that Manchester United is the best club in the world and all other clubs are inferior.

Let's face the facts, this is a club certain to decline. We have lost a world class management and coaching staff, and the best the club was able to attract was the management and staff of Everton. We can no longer attract top level players either, it's absolutely devastating to see the likes of Götze, Neymar, and Thiago evade us without us even having a feasible chance at signing these players. And perhaps if Ferguson was less selfish, he could have signaled his desire to retire sooner so we could secure Guardiola. Instead, we must settle for Moyes.

If Rooney leaves, we will struggle to manage fourth place next season. This club is on the decline, perhaps Rooney sees this. Who can blame him if he truly desires to leave? Moyes, too, has followed in Ferguson's steps and has not shown the respect and love for Rooney that a top level player deserves. If Guardiola were at United, could you see him alienating Rooney so quickly? The situation Manchester United are in is very worrisome. Yes, let us sell Wayne Rooney. What does it matter? The days of Manchester United as a potential European champion are over.

You're right sir. There's new future for us, we are all doomed. Going to support Chelsea or City next season.
 
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