Which foreign team would even want him?
PSG have Cavani, Barca have Neymar, Bayern don't want him and I can't see him going to Italy. That leaves Madrid, and I can't really see them wanting him.
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Which foreign team would even want him?
PSG have Cavani, Barca have Neymar, Bayern don't want him and I can't see him going to Italy. That leaves Madrid, and I can't really see them wanting him.
I reckon he's past his best now. He's not gonna age well.
Actually have some sympathy with Rooney on this one, unless what Moyes said was taken out of context or misinterpreted by the press, it does seem to appear that Moyes only intends to use Rooney as a back up to RVP. Not exactly the smartest thing for a manager to say.
Yep, maturing at a young age and not looking after yourself has a bit of an effect.
Whats my username got to do with it? If you can get hold of Fabregas for under 30 thats a coup for a start.
I give up. Rooney could wear a t-shirt saying 'I hate Man Utd fans they're all ugly cnuts'...and some of you lot would still find a way to defend him.
Why should he? If he wants to go to Chelsea he will end up their. Very little United can do about it. Just look at Arsenal and RVP.
Your username indicates you're a Chelsea fan, which means you're speaking from a totally different perspective than most of us United fans.
Anyway, a big good luck to anybody who wants to capture Fabregas for under 30. Under 40 and it's still stretching it.
Rooney can get back to his best at a club where he wants to play. He's not professional enough to fire in 30 goals a season and put in great performances if he's wanting away all the time. Last season was a good indicator of that. Stats aside, he was far from his best. If its true that he's been wanting away for a good part of last season, that'd explain it.
Money alone cant buy a top striker. With Falcao and Cavani gone, which striker of Rooney's ability is available? None. They could be willing to spend 50mil but they have no hope of buying a top class striker like Rooney because there arent any available atm. 10mil isnt much for a club like ours. We have the cash to spend and 10mil less wouldnt change anything. Most players that we've missed out on recently, like hazard, lucas etc, its been because we dont think they're worth what the selling club wants. Not because we couldnt afford it. There's a difference. You think we couldnt pay 6mil to Hazard's agent? We could but we didnt on principle as no agent deserves that much. Similarly in Lucas's case when PSG just made an absurb last minute bid.
Back up for the No 9 position, what was unreasonable about that in principle? Reflective of last season and what many observers would expect.
It's more a criticism of Moyes than a defence of Rooney
Almost incomparable situation, isn't it? RVP can stay for another season and Arsenal will lose him for free, which tied their hands a lot. Rooney/Chelsea can't afford to wait for 2 years.
fecking hell, he has scored only two times in his 9 seasons here 30 or more goals for season. I don't expect him to ever do that and it's very possible that he is past his best.
Wouldn't have said it if I wasn't. He has scored 197 goals for us, and has made 400 appearances for the club. He has been a main man in a side that has won 5 Premier League Titles; European Cup; 2 League Cups, and 3 Community Shields. I understand why people are annoyed at how he has treated the club at times but I think that people need to look at the bigger picture before they speak about him in such a way.
Conjecture. Too big a risk.
Isnt as simple as that. Look at Modric and Chelsea.
And those 2 seasons he was playing mainly as the out and out striker, where he would play for Chelsea.
You talk as if he's done us a favor. Nobody was talking like this about him before all the shit couple of years back. Hell, most even forgave him after that. The cnut has pissed on our faces though if he wants a move out again. Respect him my ass.
We wouldnt need to. You really think a player of Rooney's quality wont attract buyers at a cut price?
That's not the case. If United want to sell they can - as it stands they seem to want to keep him for 12 months and see what happens. Will Chelsea wait that long? Doubtful for me.
Rooney seems to want Chelsea because Jose has stroked his ego and he thinks the grass is greener - perhaps he thinks its the answer to his problems. Fact is he's not the player he was, whether he can get back to where he was, who knows. Will any club risk £200k a week over 5 years? I'm not sure.
The club may not do what Arsenal did and see the fee as the bottom line.
Well Chelsea is not the only destination, is it? I'm merely saying that players don't have absolute power as you stated, and RVP is not a good example. For every RVP, there's a Heinze.
Or what Varun said.
Not up to me to decide, but keeping him for another season wouldn't be the end of the world.
I return from the wilderness to bring calm in this time of strife. Verily my prophecies shall come to pass. Wayne and Waynetta shall soon be in london, Utd will sign two excellent players and roll on as we always do.
Have faith little ones
I really should lay off the stella
Have faith little ones
I really should lay off the stella
We tell him clearly that he doesnt have a choice. He'l buckle down and accept. He's not going to throw away 2 years of his career just because he wants to play for Chelsea.
Different club, different player, different manager. A few years older. Rooney doesn't look to have the work ethic to age well and if he goes abroad I will be surprised if he doesn't do a Kaka'. In England he'll do well, but I doesn't expect him to be a 30 goal striker for season, and especially not for 5 years like another poster mentioned. I would prefer to sell him abroad, but wouldn't care that much if he goes to Chelsea.
No my point was that we make distinctions between paying an extra say £6m for Hazard and pull out of the race, so why would be accept say £10m less for Rooney? If we place such strict valuations on players we will sign, and supposedly our wages judging by the Nani situation, then I don't see why we'd let £10m slip. Also as for principle, I don't buy that because Bebe was one bigger agent fee.
As for other strikers they're always someone, Imbra looks like he'll be free, he could tide them over for two seasons or so whilst they keep waiting or who knows what will happen with Lakuku in a few seasons. Benzema equally can be a top striker as much as Rooney can. Plus I'm sure there are other gems out there, I didn't know much about drogba before he came.
Personally I think unless Rooney was being really unprofessional at £20m I'd rather keep him, definitely think he's more than worth that over 2 seasons even if he is below poor, which personally I think is being exaggerated, a poor finish to the season but he was alright before that if not near his best.
If it was Madrid or Bayern then yeah of course he would move, but they aren't interested.
I don't even think he would want to go to PSG anymore, he would be just as 'second choice' there as at United
Chelsea supporting caller rushes to Rooney's defence on Talksport. Are they already claiming him as one of their own? lol
He'll get 25-30m in wages during those two years which means that we'll lose around 50m. An unmotivated fat cnutish Rooney isn't worth 50m. Now he does want to play as a striker when he has zero chance of doing that and has been looking to get out of the team. Does anybody believe that he somehow magically will turn to be a nice boy and be on his best form?
Because hazard's agent wanted 6mil on top of the 34mil transfer fee and Hazard's signing on fee. It was ridiculous. Its a matter of principle and also ensuring that future players we sign dont make similar demands. Bebe's case was totally different as the fee wasnt even comparable. In any case, I always thought something was wrong about that deal.
PSG will have no reason to sell Ibra. They dont need the cash. Lukaku, as big a talent as he is, isnt currently close to Rooney. Chelsea want a top striker now, not 2 seasons down the line. Same with other gems you talk of.
He's on 200k a week which amounts to 10mil a year. We'd break even on a 10mil cheaper sale just by the savings we make on his wages. The dressing room atmosphere is another big factor. More than anything, in our manager's 1st season at the club, I'd rather he focused on the football than have to deal with a wantaway player all season long. The sooner we sort this out, better for us.
#ThingsThatAngerAndConfuseWayneRooney is trending on Twitter, some of the tweets are pretty funny.
Madrid would be at 30mil. They can recoup almost the entire fee by selling Higuain alone.
They are in for Suarez and haven't shown any interest in Rooney. You're just speculating.
'His sons homework' was the best one by miles.
The way the story is worded and the repeated use of "angry and confused" across outlets sell this as a leaked story.
But suppose the story isn't leaked. It is incredibly easy for Rooney to issue a denial. Just a tweet. "The stories on Sky Sports and BBC are rubbish." I'm assuming no such denial will be forthcoming and that therefore even in the world in which this story is a simple page-view grabbing fabrication Rooney doesn't see any point in ending the speculation. Perhaps it would be ridiculous to expect him to deny every false story printed about him. Perhaps not when the story in question concerns his future, a desire for a move that has been publicly admitted by Ferguson, and is resulting in our new manager being hounded by the media at every opportunity.
Well again that depends on a number of things, ultimately he wouldn't be on the wage he is if we didn't think he was good enough to get that and I don't see why one below par season chages that. Everyone is quick to jump in and say he offers nothing without his focus but we simply don't know how much this is true. Did we hear murmurings from Rooney when he was asked to play the diamond, or left wing etc? No. He got on with it, he wasn't always at his best but if you can find me a player outside messi and ronaldo who currently is always producing then I'd be surprised. From what we've heard from they players he seems to still be impressing them this season.
It was only in the last few weeks following the rumors about the chat with Fergie that it suddenly became about him wanting out and his entire season being rewritten. A conversation we still don't know the full extent off. I don't think if we kept him he'd suddenly turn great but at the same time I don't think we can say conclusively he'd just be doing nothing. As we all know he's a guy who needs to play regularly and whatever you think of him you know he wants to do his best on the pitch and with a WC coming up it doesn't suit him to just sit around and sulk all season.
Plus theres's the factor of where he wants to go. If he wants chelsea then that's where he'll go unless we make him see his contract out. Same with RVP, I can't imagine that not one foreign club was interested in him, but he wanted us and came as a result.
How many denials a week is he going to have to issue. The media nod along for a day or so then come out with another 'Rooney unhappy' rumour.
I reckon Moyes and Rooney know what's going on with each other. I don't see why Rooney should give a feck about correcting every little made up story in the press. If you're naive enough to believe everything you read that's your problem, not Rooney's.
As for this... the wording of the story provides proof that it's a leak from Rooney's camp because that is what a paranoid fan wants to believe? Seems legit.
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