Yup. Young, Welbeck, and Van Persie can play in Rooney's position as well. Slot Van Persie in his natural position and you've got Welbeck, Kagawa, and Young who can play the supporting striker role. If we sign another winger and one central midfielder, we'll be okay without Rooney.
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Yup. Young, Welbeck, and Van Persie can play in Rooney's position as well. Slot Van Persie in his natural position and you've got Welbeck, Kagawa, and Young who can play the supporting striker role. If we sign another winger and one central midfielder, we'll be okay without Rooney.
That was Liverpool.
Think you are. Things have changed a lot since 2010. RVP's our main striker now and Kagawa is more than capable of being as good as Rooney was as a number 10. What we'l definitely need is to get a top left winger in though along with a top CM(regardless of anything that happens really).
But yeah, selling him to a rival is a big No-No. We have to sell the cnut abroad. Sell him for a cut price to Real, I cant for the life of me understand why they arent in for him. He'd be a perfect galactico signing and would improve them a lot.
Yeah ofcourse. I rephrased my post and missed out on replacing them with Liverpool.
The club already came out and said we'd hold onto him for two years and let him go on a free if need be.
We won't be selling him to a rival this year. And I doubt the next. We can always get as much if not more money from a club like PSG. If he goes on a free, that's another matter.
Yeah he probably would, but his behaviour is unacceptable, its like a 10 year old.
It's pretty obvious Moyes meant if van Persie's injured we'll be reliant on him, he'll be crucial etc. He wasn't saying he's a back-up to van Persie. I assume he chose to phrase it in such a way to leave it somewhat open to interpretation as repeatedly saying "Rooney is a key player" won't really go down too well if he does leave. It's not what Welbeck and Hernández want to hear. He's still stressing Rooney's importance but at the same time he's sending a message - to both Rooney and his potential replacements in the starting lineup. Can't see why anyone would disagree with Moyes on this.
So, is it still a case of poor old Rooney being misunderstood?
No its still a case of Rooney having to make way for Ronaldo and now RVP.
Personally I think somebody needs to teach him to read, give him a copy of Red by Gary Neville and tell him to grow the feck up and realise that 9 season or 99 it doesn't matter, ultimately you have to work hard to play for United, you don't have a right to play for United no matter what your fecking name is.
Hernández has deserved game time for ages now, he has remained committed to the club, if Rooney leaves, this will be his chance.
Read the 2 stories at Sky and BBC. On Sky it reads as follows:
On BBC it reads:
BBC has just repeated what the reporter that originally was used on the Sky story. It's not a matter of BBC and Sky have come about the same information in this case.
There is no comparison.
Everyone knew about Ronaldos wish to play for RM, it wasn't a secret.
SAF got another season out of him, can't say I noticed his desire drop.
At the end of the day if Rooney comes out and says he wants to leave then fine, its his choice.
Its all this fecking about, remember October 2010, he is a complete tool.
And he's back in hissy fit mode, most other players would take it as a challenge and want to prove everyone wrong. Not Rooney though, oh no.
Similar to 2010 when things weren't looking particularly promising for us, when the going gets tough Rooney wants to feck off.
I really don't care anymore as long as he doesn't go to Chelsea.
Look, Ryan Giggs has given great service to United but did it stop us being pissed off with SAF when he was overly loyal to Ryan & played him in midfield? Team selection should ideally be about form, not one's past record, so Wayne's nine years of service should count for very little if someone else deserves his place - and that should go for any United player who thinks they should get the nod because of past performances, personal pride and their public profile.
The last part isn't true though, which makes selling to a rival much more likely.
PSG was the most likely Continental club to make a big bid for him, but they have just spent £54million on Cavani - the possibility of them getting Rooney now is minimal.
Which other ones are there? Bayern and Barca don't need him, Madrid probably could use him but they don't seem interested.
Chelsea is the most likely destination IMO and if they made a big bid we should accept it and move on.
Think Madrid are after Suraez.
Agreed.
Rooney could be an all time great and take on a wonderful record that stands with Charlton and along the way Law and Rowley. Instead he'll end up being a nothing, a mercenary treated the same way as Tevez, effectively kicked out of the country as a good for nothing.
Yes I get he wants football, but he has to work to get it. We wouldn't be keeping out of the top spot if he was bringing it all the time. The fact his he goes through waves. And sometimes its simply a fact that he offers more to the team in other places, so why not do his bit for the greater good. Surely the point of the game is to win and if we have more chance with him in other positions he should be willing to do that.
Yes I get he wants football, but he has to work to get it. We wouldn't be keeping out of the top spot if he was bringing it all the time. The fact his he goes through waves. And sometimes its simply a fact that he offers more to the team in other places, so why not do his bit for the greater good. Surely the point of the game is to win and if we have more chance with him in other positions he should be willing to do that.
No way. Under no circumstances should we sell to them, or City for that matter. You do not directly make your rivals stronger.
Massively disagree of selling him to Chelsea. Chelsea are already heading in the direction of favourites for the title. The old is on the way out or getting the best of their late years and the new is coming on strong.
Adding Rooney would make them clear favourites in my opinion. If we are doing that the price should be £60m and not a penny less! And then we should buy Bale with that money and 2 midfielders with other money penciled in.
Do you not?
Seems like an extremely rigid and inflexible rule, hopefully the club has more tact than that.
We should be concerned with getting the best deal for ourselves, selling to a domestic rival gets taken into account but it is only one factor amongst many. Letting that one factor dictate our transfer policy with Rooney is just amateurish.
If Madrid offer £40million and Chelsea offer £40million then you sell to Madrid, but if Chelsea offer £40million and Madrid offer £20million then you sell to Chelsea IMO.
Letting Rooney go to City or Chelsea would be even more stupid than spending 8m on Bebe.
Well we've never done it in the past so why would we start doing it now?
three years ago i would've cared.
good player on his day and we'll be weaker without him, but is it worth dealing with him acting the cnut, his ego, gobshite agent and turning up unfit every summer?
sell him for decent money while we can and re-invest. we'll be lucky to get half the sums being thrown about next summer.
good player on his day and we'll be weaker without him, but is it worth dealing with him acting the cnut, his ego, gobshite agent and turning up unfit every summer?
sell him for decent money while we can and re-invest. we'll be lucky to get half the sums being thrown about next summer.
So if you take that one step further and say we get £20m extra but as RVP was this season, Rooney ends up the deciding factor in winning the title next season, did we get the best deal because we got more money?
What? You are the one who advocated letting it dictate our transfer policy.
I don't think the club will do that, they will take all factors into account and if Chelsea is the only team offering a high fee they'll suck it up and sell him.
Disagree. If Chelsea come in with a 40mil bid and Rooney insists on leaving, you let the entire football community know that you're selling Rooney for 30mil. If the cnut refuses to go abroad, that'll complicate things but we'd have to tell him that its either abroad or the bench.
Rooney's camp spinning more than a wheel on an F1 car. Wow, is he that desperate to move?
He'd better not be a United player by the start of the season. He'll cost Moyes the entire dressing room.
He's a spoilt indisciplined feckwit who wants out and isn't fit for the club's (or any other top club's) standards anyway. Why is he still here?
Still think one of Fergie's biggest mistakes was not telling him to feck off the first time around
He's a spoilt indisciplined feckwit who wants out and isn't fit for the club's (or any other top club's) standards anyway. Why is he still here?
Still think one of Fergie's biggest mistakes was not telling him to feck off the first time around
It's really starting to get annoying now. If he wants away, all he has to do is demand a transfer, then nobody would be in any doubt about his intentions. But I'd rather see him go in part-exchange for a player of similar stature instead of cash only.
I don't really care anymore. I hope we won't suddenly pussy out and give him a 4-year deal because 2 years that he has left is exactly the maximum I expect him to play well at this level, given the fact that he doesn't seem particularly fit and he doesn't care I don't see him as the sort of player who keeps playing well until his mid 30s. He used to be absolutely brilliant for us but he's also a massive idiot for the way he handles issues regarding the club and he hasn't really been at his absolute best for a while so I won't lose too much sleep over his probable transfer. We've lost far better players in the past.
If we reinvest the cash well then I don't see the problem in selling Rooney, i.e. Rooney out Fabregas in. But selling him and then hoping others within the squad will step up seems risky to me. As I said we'd go right back to one star player again. If we do have a replacement we know we can get and Chelsea offer us a good deal then don't see the problem in selling to them. They'll find someone eventually.
That is insane though, and the club is a business so would rightly never do that.
We wouldn't write off £40million and have Rooney on the bench just because it would give Chelsea a striker, christ. They will buy one regardless and we can reinvest the money, whilst getting Rooney out of the club and saving £10million a year on wages.
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