I doubt they club will mind losing money if someone from abroad makes and offer, Levy did the same thing with Modric.
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I doubt they club will mind losing money if someone from abroad makes and offer, Levy did the same thing with Modric.
Wouldn't mind selling him to Chelsea anymore so long as he's fecked off.
He doesn't have too many options open anyway. Barca and Madrid don't need a striker and neither do the French clubs.
It really leaves only Chelsea.
He doesn't have too many options open anyway. Barca and Madrid don't need a striker and neither do the French clubs.
It really leaves only Chelsea.
We've never done it in the past but you are the one who wants to sell him to Chelsea. Under no circumstances.
Be careful what you wish for.
I think some of you look at this too short termist. Rather than worrying about what selling Rooney to a rival would do to your title chances next season you need to focus on what keeping him would do against your future growth and for Moyes in the future. Thinking about things in the longer run is something you need to do more now you have a new manager.
Rooney isnt dim. If he understands the message, he'l agree to a move abroad. We're just ruling out selling him to 3 clubs, he's free to go anywhere else. I'd take 10mil less from a Real in a heartbeat. Much higher stakes at play long term than just 10mil in the bank if we sell him to City or Chelsea.
What are you talking about, I don't 'want' to sell him to Chelsea.
I want the club to sell him to the right buyer taking all of the factors into account, including the fee and the destination. If that club happens to be Chelsea then so be it, we'll have gotten the best deal.
He will give them a couple of good years, heck they may even win the title but his old habits will catch up with him and he will be a pain to Chelsea eventually.
In the meantime it is imperative for our long term that Moyes isn't bullied around by Rooney.
Ces't la vie. Players make way for players who are better then them.
I agree too. As long as it is part of the Mata's deal.
Barca just sold David Villa so they may need someone there. Monaco also need a second big name striker to counterbalance Cavani-Zlatan.
Well yeah like I said they would take it into account, but they wouldn't let it dictate their policy like some in here are suggesting.
Who says its just about next season? Rooney isnt a 32 year old striker. He's at a peak age for a striker and if he settles at Chelsea, he could be a 30 goal a season striker for them for the next 5 years. With a top manager and the quality of team they have already, his transfer could decide title races for the next 5 seasons which have a huge impact overall in terms of the club's reputation, the money it makes and the quality of players it attracts in the future. It isnt short term-ish to not want to sell him to chelsea, if anything, its looking at a much bigger picture.
I have a feeling Fergie thought Rooney was past his best, and we've seen the best of him, and we're actually desperate to get rid while we can still get some money for him. A bit like Milan with Kaka a few years ago (albeit for different reasons).
With the money you get from him you could bring in 1-2 top quality players who want to be there and who United are more in need of. United are well stocked in the attacking department.
But then if you think he can be a star again, likewise if they club felt the same way and were willing to sell at say £10m less than why not keep him and hope he regains his focus and committment. Not like he can sulk forever.
If it were like Spurs with Modric where they didn't want to sell but knew they more or less had to but didn't want to weaken themselves and strengthen the clubs ahead of them it would make sense, but we're by all accounts at the point where we think we don't need Rooney, we're marginalizing him, not someone forcing us to sell. That's a big difference imo, especially if we think we can get a replacement i.e. Fabregas. In that case it makes sense to take a considerably bigger offer from a team in the same league and trust your decision than to take less cash and ship him abroad, especially when there's no saying he might not just get sold on again anyway.
40m isn't that big a deal for a club like United. It'll cost us a lot more when Rooney is firing in 30 goals a season for Chelsea and helping them win the league.
Anywhere is better than here. He'll do far more damage than good sulking around here garnering sympathy from Rio and co while Moyes has to attempt to manage him. I mean jesus fecking christ just get rid of him and think of any money we get out of it as a bonus.
The club are already doing a great job of making Moyes's task more difficult by publicly embarassing themselves in the transfer market. Last thing we need is Rooney dragging the dressing room down with his attitude, which to be frank absolutely stinks even when he's supposedly happy.
Tabloid nonsense. Moyes quote had nothing to do with anything.
He hasn't been easy to like at times, but I think he deserves a bit more respect than he is getting here. We don't know the ins and outs, but he has done a lot for this club which ever way you look at it. If we sold him to Chelsea, he would come back to haunt us. He wasn't up to his usual standards last year - weather that was down to a 'personal' problem, injury etc.. I don't know, but on his day he is as good an all round player as anyone else in the league for me. His goal scoring record speaks for itself.
I don't agree with how he has treated the club at times, and I can see why people are annoyed, but I don't think he deserves the amount of disrespect certain posters are showing in this particular thread.
I don't agree with how he has treated the club at times, and I can see why people are annoyed, but I don't think he deserves the amount of disrespect certain posters are showing in this particular thread.
No one has said that it would be £10million less. You're acting as if that is fact when there is no indication it would happen like that.
If it was that close then maybe United would sell him to Madrid or whoever, the problem is that there is little interest from most of the big teams.
I really really beg to differ.
Some of you make it seem like he's a complete dressing room cancer who is leading some sort of revolution and is unmanageable.
It doesn't work like that. The club won't lose out on 30 or 40 million for a want-away player just for the sake of pride or not selling to a rival.
I almost agreed with the post until I saw the username. Unless Rooney fetches £35-40m, which top quality players (ie midfielders) can we bring in in this market? Again, there's no way I would wish us to strengthen our domestic rivals with one of our top players just to spite him.
If he goes to Chesea at least him and Ashley Cole can sit around together attempting to fit triangle shapes into square holes and then throwing confused tantrums because it doesn't work
If he doesnt want to be here, there's no point keeping him. It isnt good for the dressing room. We arent desperate for him as you rightly said so why keep a player who doesnt want to stay?
Gifting one of our rivals a top quality striker if we can get flog him abroad even at a loss of 10mil doesnt make sense though. Its not as if we're cash strapped and would need that 10mil to buy players either. The league is at its competitive best now and a player like Rooney in top form can swing titles.
Don't mention Ashley Cole and fitting things into holes in the same sentence.It really wouldn't though, and you also need to factor in his wages and the lost potential for reinvestment from the fee, as well as any lesser affects it would have on the dressing room or Moyes's ability to manage the club effectively.
It wouldn't be to spite him. It'd be to get rid of him before he costs David Moyes his job.
Do it now while it wont be seen as Moyes's fault when clearly Rooney is the problem.
Precisely. We just don't sell top class players to our title rivals just to get a few more quid, we are a big enough club not to do that. A few extra million in transfer fee will not make that much of a difference to the commercial giant that is our club.
Are you serious? HE deserves respect?
Have people just all buried there heads in the sand or something?
Noodle's right. feck him off. Too whoever pays the most.
He's as thick as shit.
Andy Mitten on Talksport just now: "The players have understood since March that Rooney wanted to go."
As things stand with all the public drama in the open, Chelsea wont be bidding much more than 35mil or so. 40mil at a stretch. If we offer him for 30mil to foreign clubs, I'd be surprised if we dont find a buyer.
As I explained to Theon, Rooney is at the peak of his career. If we made it clear that he can leave to anywhere but 3 clubs, he'l buckle down and leave abroad.
And this insider information on how footballers and their agents really do things comes from...? People always talk about the fact that every rumour is deliberately 'leaked' from a player or an agent or a manager or a club but no one has ever actually proven that it happens all the time. It's just another instance of people preferring to believe anything except the fact that the sports media need to fill their webpages with stuff that gets hits, and rumours are the way to do that.
But like I said if we think Rooney can get back to his best why are we letting him go? We've not heard anything about him being a dressing room problem, him calling his team mates not good enough in 2010 for a pay rise didn't seem to cause too many problems.
As for selling to Chelsea/City, they're mega rich anyway, if they want a top striker they can go buy one, if we're saying we don't think Rooney is good enough anymore and if we know we can get a replacement like Fabregas than we shouldn't worry about it too much. I agree that for a couple million it would be better to send him away, but I think talking about £25m and £35m for example is a big difference. We've missed out on signing top players for differences smaller than that by most reports.
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