Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Aww bless his poor little cotton socks. Poor little unloved Wayne all confused and angry, with only his £250,000 a week contract to help him through the pain and despair. How ever does he get through it? Maybe we should start some sort of appeal for him? Just to get him through these dark days :(
 
elmo said:
Winning the league is arguably worth more than the sum that's being thrown around for Rooney's supposed value, do you honestly think it's worth selling him to City/Chelsea?
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Selling Rooney to City or Chelsea would be a bad move for us, to state what I think has to be pretty obvious. Better to do a deal with Barcelona that involves Fabregas, although I don't see how Rooney would fit there any better than he fits in with United. Or a deal that involves Ronaldo. To any club outside England, though I'm not sure Roo himself wants to leave England.

A predicament indeed.

Best case scenario is that Moyes and Rooney reach some genuine mutual agreement on his role, Rooney fully accepts it and we keep lifting trophies. After all, Rooney is in a great spot in life exactly where he is right now. Unless he were to go to Bayern (which is is no one's crystal ball), it can only go downhill for Rooney were he to leave United.
 
Sky's massive sensationalism is irritating. Just the way this gimp is delivering the Rooney news is hilarious.

Oh my god 'Barcelona have a big decision to make over Fabregas, do they sell him, or do they keep him?'

You don't say you massive dipshit!
 
Wayne Rooney is a swamp infesting parasite, and he'll continue to divide opinions here long after he's fecked off. I really dislike this thread and try to avoid it. I also acknowledge the irony that others will dislike this thread for my opinion.
 
Brightonian said:
Really? The way I read it (as described in that post), it pretty much just maintained what I already knew: Rooney will be played in a number of positions next season, some of which might not be his favourite (I liked this, since it suggested we might see Kagawa at #10). And Rooney is important, and one of the reasons for this is that if RVP gets injured, we're going to be relying on Wayne for a lot of our goals.

People see what they want to see with Rooney. You might say that's what I'm doing, but I also think it's what lots of anti-Rooney or 'he's definitely gone' hysterics on here jump to do every time anything about him comes out. A long list of things which we have been told by the media without any real evidence are taken as established fact on here, things which would be rubbished in the transfer forum as unsourced rumour-mongering.
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Well it pretty much confirms that RVP is still the main man and that Rooney will be played in a variety of different positions. I'm sure Rooney doesn't want to hear this.

Then again, it's hardly a massive vote of confidence for Hernandez or Welbeck either.
 
Castia said:
I'm all for criticising him for his form last season and even his decision to want to leave, I just don't understand the point Moyes was trying to make earlier in the week, nobody wins from what he said.
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United win. By sending out a clear message that you don't feck about with the club. And if you think you're bigger than the club, then you'll be out in your place,
 
bosnian_red said:
What exactly has his agent done to make United look bad? Say that he never handed in a transfer request, which is the truth as far as we know? Big players move on all the time, and it is very unlikely that a player will end on good terms with the club if he's still at a good age and is somebody as good as Rooney. The fans almost always turn on him, no matter how the past 9 years have gone, no matter what this player helped you achieve during that time, which is something that I find stupid. Nobody has ever forced him to stay at United for his whole career, and now that he is 27 and just had a season where he was in and out of the team, and dropped for the biggest game of the season and forced to do a Ji Sung Park job for the second biggest game, I understand why he would want to leave.
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He wants to leave so hand in a transfer request! Done! Sorted!

Why doesn't he do that? Why is he instead trying to create a stink for the club! He refused to play last season FFS!

There's no place for Rooney fanboys in this one.
 
Moyes obviously knew that he wanted out long before he made those comments IMO.
 
pocco said:
Well it pretty much confirms that RVP is still the main man and that Rooney will be played in a variety of different positions. I'm sure Rooney doesn't want to hear this.

Then again, it's hardly a massive vote of confidence for Hernandez or Welbeck either.
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I think those two know their roles and they're happy to be part of the squad, Rooney still wants to be the main man.
 
Well then, we'll wait n' see if Wayne denies the SSN story.
 
Oh poor Wayne. The poor guy had to play out of position three times last season, we should have known better than to sign top players that play in his position, what he meant during the last contract dispute was that we should sign top players but not any that are better than him.
We're clearly out of order in all this, for Wayne I think we pushed him too far when we made him our highest paid player of all time, I think that's the point the mistreating began. The poor poor sod.

JusticeforRooney#
 
amolbhatia100 said:
United win. By sending out a clear message that you don't feck about with the club. And if you think you're bigger than the club, then you'll be out in your place,
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We dont win though , we were sending out a message that he wasn't for sale (even if it was just to drive the price up) Moyes' 'swipe' contradicted that, it's obvious he's for sale.

Im not against selling him, im not defending his earlier request to leave but I just think the Moyes comments this week were stupid.
 
Fergus' son said:
Moyes obviously knew that he wanted out long before he made those comments IMO.
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Moyes knew he was replacing Fergie when he made the original comments about Rooney wanting to leave, he's been in on this all along.

For those that think there is nothing in this, why has Wayne never come out and say he wants to stay? 10 seconds on twitter. The answer is that he's after something and doing that would be detrimental to what he's hoping to achieve.
 
Castia said:
I'm all for criticising him for his form last season and even his decision to want to leave, I just don't understand the point Moyes was trying to make earlier in the week, nobody wins from what he said.
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Jesus, I know it's Moyes fault if it rains for some, but don't see what blame he should take here. It's pretty obvious that Wayne Rooney told Moyes to his face that he wanted to leave, otherwise Moyes would not be left in the position of talking about how well he was training and other tangents.
 
SteveJ said:
Well then, we'll wait n' see if Wayne denies the SSN story.
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Yep, so far he's had a good chance to deny all of this, and could have put it all to bed very easily. His silence over the whole thing, even if you don't accept his camp are responsible for these leaks and stories, is telling.
 
Hectic said:
It's not really about value at this point, and even then we can still win the league without Rooney. If a player doesn't want to play for a team, I'd rather start the campaign without that player, even if it does reduce our overall quality.
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I don't mind selling him to a club abroad, but letting him leave for a domestic rival is not something I think a club of our stature should be doing. As I see it, it's basically the Heinze issue all over, the club allows the player to have his choice of which club he wants to go to, as long as we agree on the club of his choice.

Ruud10 said:
Selling Rooney to City or Chelsea would be a bad move for us, to state what I think has to be pretty obvious. Better to do a deal with Barcelona that involves Fabregas, although I don't see how Rooney would fit there any better than he fits in with United. Or a deal that involves Ronaldo. To any club outside England, though I'm not sure Roo himself wants to leave England.

A predicament indeed.

Best case scenario is that Moyes and Rooney reach some genuine mutual agreement on his role, Rooney fully accepts it and we keep lifting trophies. After all, Rooney is in a great spot in life exactly where he is right now. Unless he were to go to Bayern (which is is no one's crystal ball), it can only go downhill for Rooney were he to leave United.
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Exactly my point. Although I'm not too fussed about Rooney staying ever since his original attempt to hold the club to ransom a few years back.
 
charleysurf said:
He wants to leave so hand in a transfer request! Done! Sorted!

Why doesn't he do that? Why is he instead trying to create a stink for the club! He refused to play last season FFS!

There's no place for Rooney fanboys in this one.
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You seriously believe that he refused to play? Sir Alex said "I don't think he was feeling up for it" or something like that, which means that he left him out because he wanted him to think about what he wanted. It's already been said before, but once he hands in a transfer request, then that permanently severs any ties with the club, forcing an exit, giving the club less money for the actual transfer, and he himself wouldn't be entitled to whatever loyalty bonus he currently has. He's not really said anything that is trying to put the club in a bad light so far if all of you try to think rationally about this, but that's impossible so why bother.
 
Leroy The Red said:
Oh poor Wayne. The poor guy had to play out of position three times last season, we should have known better than to sign top players that play in his position, what he meant during the last contract dispute was that we should sign top players but not any that are better than him.
We're clearly out of order in all this, for Wayne I think we pushed him too far when we made him our highest paid player of all time, I think that's the point the mistreating began. The poor poor sod.

JusticeforRooney#
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I honestly feel his pain. The poor little might :( I bet he's sat there wiping tears from his eyes with £50 notes, crying into his diamond incrusted Armani teddy bear.

Maybe we should do a short video to raise awareness of his plight? Send Bono round to his house with a few minor celebrities, its about time the world saw the truth, and the way these rich footballers are struggling to cope with life. I just hope he makes it through the night.

#PrayForRooney
 
elmo said:
I don't mind selling him to a club abroad, but letting him leave for a domestic rival is not something I think a club of our stature should be doing. As I see it, it's basically the Heinze issue all over, the club allows the player to have his choice of which club he wants to go to, as long as we agree on the club of his choice.
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Oh okay, maybe I misread the last post. Yeah I'd agree with that, especially the final sentiment about having final say. I wouldn't feel comfortable seeing him for City or Chelsea because it would hurt us. Arsenal, yeah go ahead that would be hilarious given his past concerns.
 
charleysurf said:
Jesus, I know it's Moyes fault if it rains for some, but don't see what blame he should take here. It's pretty obvious that Wayne Rooney told Moyes to his face that he wanted to leave, otherwise Moyes would not be left in the position of talking about how well he was training and other tangents.
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Yeah and we were taking the right stance by saying he wasn't for sale and driving the price up. Pretty clear days later that he's for sale to anybody reading those Moyes quotes, he basically said he's going to be lacing V.Persie's boots all season. It was just needless imo.

Time to feck him off anyway, sooner the better because there's no chance of him staying now.
 
Sam said:
Aww bless his poor little cotton socks. Poor little unloved Wayne all confused and angry, with only his £250,000 a week contract to help him through the pain and despair. How ever does he get through it? Maybe we should start some sort of appeal for him? Just to get him through these dark days :(
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#prayforrooney
 
Castia said:
Yeah and we were taking the right stance by saying he wasn't for sale and driving the price up. Pretty clear days later that he's for sale to anybody reading those Moyes quotes, he basically said he's going to be lacing V.Persie's boots all season.
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Not sure how you asserted that, fully fit and motivated Rooney would be playing in behind RVP and if RVP got injured he would be moved to his 'preferred' position. It's easy to isolate Moyes' quotes but it doesn't fit in with his previous rhetoric.
 
Becks is often viewed as merely a celebrity footballer yet, when he was out of favour at Real, he worked bloody hard to regain his place & precedence; why can't 'street footballer' Rooney do the same? Take a guess...
 
Brightonian said:
We have no idea if he is. Sky Sports have just said that, with no quote or source in sight. This is what I mean - two bits of meaningless media bullshit tend to be taken as more reliable on here than one, which is silly.
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That story blatantly comes straight from the Rooney camp. It's from the Frank Lampard here's-how-I'm-feeling-about-my-situation-without-quoting-me playbook.
 
Seeing as everyone has a theory, I feel Moyes' words were taken out of context in regards to where Rooney will play on the pitch.

Wardwood Warded didn't really need to say what he did though. We had a relatively decent strategy in place in regards to contracts, I see no reason to make a deal out of the openness to let contracts run down and players earn new ones, that's just common practice.
 
Hectic said:
But seriously, your understanding is that Wayne felt he wasn't sure where he stood in the team - despite that being obviously clear - so asked Fergie for reassurances. Fergie being the massive spiteful liar we know him to be, decided to completely make up a conversation they had where Rooney mentioned he wants to leave and tells the media about it. Is that right?
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Well Fergie has never uttered a lie or manipulated the truth, eh?
 
I dont care what happens with Rooney's future now, I find it all very boring, but I wish he would have the balls to address this directly instead of sending out these 'close sources'. He is so desperate to protect his image, give us a quote you dick.
 
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