Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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tell you what though...not getting Thiago or Fab and then selling Rooney to Chelsea...this place will l literally explode!!

I say, sell him to Anzhi...that will give him something to moan about....
 
Randall Flagg said:
Selling him to a pl rival will go down as a very low moment. Cant think of much worse in avoidable circumstances in my lifetime of following Utd
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Undoubtedly so. 197 goals for MUFC. Almost 10 years of memories. It is hard. But to be honest, the feeling that I don't want to see him playing for another English club outweighs my desire for him to stay. That slight part of me that thinks this situation is retrievable is fading all the time. Whatever happens it will be a shame when he goes and it won't feel good seeing him in a Chelsea shirt if that's where he lands.
 
Moyes has one hell of a job already, that's for sure. THe transfer market is one hell of a mess with all those sugar daddies investing, Rooney is pissing about and he also has titles to win.
 
He'll probably start like a bullet at Chelsea, or elsewhere. But, sooner or later, he'll fall back into lazy habits.
 
I reckon if we offered Rooney a new 250k a week contract, he'd be coming out with the usual "I love the club," "I made a mistake" crap :rolleyes: All about money with him, one of the last chances he'll have at almost 28 to bag a huge contract.
 
Castia said:
fecking stupid comment by Moyes though wasn't it to be fair.
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Well, we all have our own interpretation of the boss' remarks. I see them as him realising that no matter what approach we took, Wayne wasn't going to change his mind.
 
Castia said:
fecking stupid comment by Moyes though wasn't it to be fair.
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To be honest I just read it as Moyes saying he will play Rooney in behind RVP and we'd need Rooney to move up top in the case of RVP being injured.
 
Thiago and Strootman stories dead, Tito says Cesc isn't going anywhere so the media do the predictable and turn full circle and return to Rooney. Sky sources :lol:
 
He's been hung out to dry by first Ferguson and now Moyes. I don't know who runs our f*cking PR team, but they might as well be the same dipsh*ts that 'handled' the Suarez/Evra affair for LFC.

Situation: Most important player in team for last 3 seasons is disgruntled at having limited gametime in current season, and being played out of position all the time. Goes to manager, tells him this. As Ferguson (and presumably Manchester United) do you:
a. Tell the press he asked to leave, and you’ve dropped him accordingly
b. Tell the press he’s ‘picked up a knock/isn’t totally fit’ and rest him for 2 matches, then sort it out in the summer behind closed doors
c. Don’t tell the press anything

Now you’re a new manager and have inherited a player rightly pissed off with the club for having his private discussion aired publically, who is still the 2nd best attacker at the club and probably the most marquee player. Do you:
a. Put an arm around him, say everything will be different now and you want to work with him to build the best team with him as a key component
b. Continually refuse to answer direct questions and refer to his current fitness instead, implying his previous fitness was poor
c. Release public statements hanging him even further out to dry (both the CEO and Moyes)

It’s just a shambles of PR in every way. Either we want to keep one of our only truly class players or we want to maximise his sale so we can attempt to replace his contribution. Under both of those scenarios, we want to maintain appearances that he is settled and a huge bid would be necessary. Instead it’s like the club are forcing him out, reducing his transfer fee and leaving us no time to replace him.

If we had the brains running our commercial department running the football side, maybe we’d do a bit f*cking better with this. Football today is about appearances, and we appear short-sighted, weak and poor at a time when the outside world are rubbing their hands are our impending collapse.


If you were a player thinking of joining us, that’s the impression you get too.
 
Now with most of the better strikers off the market, Chelsea will be desperate to buy him. We can get good money for him from Chelsea, but he is exactly what they are missing, so it'd be better to sell him elsewhere even if it's for significantly lesser amounts, unless he is adamant to play for Chelsea, in which case, he can play with Pearson, Tunnicliffe and co next season.
 
Castia said:
fecking stupid comment by Moyes though wasn't it to be fair.
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I would say this: If it was just his thoughts, as it were, then yes - not the smartest play in the book, considering he actually wants to keep Rooney around. But if it was deliberate (which I'm pretty sure it was), I think you have to give him credit for being a no-bollocks manager who wants to put the record straight right away: Get working or get going. That's what it means, after all. Not that he thinks Rooney is a squad player, but that he needs to get his crap together and start playing as well as he's capable of.
 
I love the words 'angry and confused' because I can picture Rooney wildly flailing his arms in terror. :lol:

Sell the scouse feck already.
 
wr8_utd said:
Thiago and Strootman stories dead, Tito says Cesc isn't going anywhere so the media do the predictable and turn full circle and return to Rooney. Sky sources :lol:
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There'll come a point when even you can't defend him.
 
It's our last chance to sell him, next year he'll force a move for peanuts. I hope we sell the lad to a foreign club asap, been saying this since the Chelsea game when he took the piss.
 
feck me. Always the victim, it's never his fault (apparently).
 
Beachryan said:
He's been hung out to dry by first Ferguson and now Moyes. I don't know who runs our f*cking PR team, but they might as well be the same dipsh*ts that 'handled' the Suarez/Evra affair for LFC.

Situation: Most important player in team for last 3 seasons is disgruntled at having limited gametime in current season, and being played out of position all the time. Goes to manager, tells him this. As Ferguson (and presumably Manchester United) do you:
a.Tell the press he asked to leave, and you’ve dropped him accordingly
b.Tell the press he’s ‘picked up a knock/isn’t totally fit’ and rest him for 2 matches, then sort it out in the summer behind closed doors
c.Don’t tell the press anything

Now you’re a new manager and have inherited a player rightly pissed off with the club for having his private discussion aired publically, who is still the 2nd best attacker at the club and probably the most marquee player. Do you:
a.Put an arm around him, say everything will be different now and you want to work with him to build the best team with him as a key component
b.Continually refuse to answer direct questions and refer to his current fitness instead, implying his previous fitness was poor
c.Release public statements hanging him even further out to dry (both the CEO and Moyes)

It’s just a shambles of PR in every way. Either we want to keep one of our only truly class players or we want to maximise his sale so we can attempt to replace his contribution. Under both of those scenarios, we want to maintain appearances that he is settled and a huge bid would be necessary. Instead it’s like the club are forcing him out, reducing his transfer fee and leaving us no time to replace him.

If we had the brains running our commercial department running the football side, maybe we’d do a bit f*cking better with this. Football today is about appearances, and we appear short-sighted, weak and poor at a time when the outside world are rubbing their hands are our impending collapse.


If you were a player thinking of joining us, that’s the impression you get too.
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feck off, Rooney can do one.
 
Beachryan said:
He's been hung out to dry by first Ferguson and now Moyes. I don't know who runs our f*cking PR team, but they might as well be the same dipsh*ts that 'handled' the Suarez/Evra affair for LFC.

Situation: Most important player in team for last 3 seasons is disgruntled at having limited gametime in current season, and being played out of position all the time. Goes to manager, tells him this. As Ferguson (and presumably Manchester United) do you:
a.Tell the press he asked to leave, and you’ve dropped him accordingly
b.Tell the press he’s ‘picked up a knock/isn’t totally fit’ and rest him for 2 matches, then sort it out in the summer behind closed doors
c.Don’t tell the press anything

Now you’re a new manager and have inherited a player rightly pissed off with the club for having his private discussion aired publically, who is still the 2nd best attacker at the club and probably the most marquee player. Do you:
a.Put an arm around him, say everything will be different now and you want to work with him to build the best team with him as a key component
b.Continually refuse to answer direct questions and refer to his current fitness instead, implying his previous fitness was poor
c.Release public statements hanging him even further out to dry (both the CEO and Moyes)

It’s just a shambles of PR in every way. Either we want to keep one of our only truly class players or we want to maximise his sale so we can attempt to replace his contribution. Under both of those scenarios, we want to maintain appearances that he is settled and a huge bid would be necessary. Instead it’s like the club are forcing him out, reducing his transfer fee and leaving us no time to replace him.

If we had the brains running our commercial department running the football side, maybe we’d do a bit f*cking better with this. Football today is about appearances, and we appear short-sighted, weak and poor at a time when the outside world are rubbing their hands are our impending collapse.


If you were a player thinking of joining us, that’s the impression you get too.
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I stopped at "hung out to dry by first Ferguson and now Moyes".

Complete bollocks.
 
Wayne Rooney is confused? I hope he hurts himself in his confusion :mad:

(feck yeah, I'm referencing Pokemon, I'm officially one of the cool people now).
 
Christ aren't all of you being a bunch of sensitive girls here. Rooney's perfectly entitled to want to leave the club, nobody is forcing him to stay. He's been here for 9 years and almost everyone of those 9 years he provided us with great service, and now that he isn't as important as he was maybe 2 years ago he is looking to go to a team where he would be the undisputed first choice. I really don't see the problem there. He's hardly disrespected the club this time (unlike last time where he questioned the ambition, different situation though) and he's only got 2 more years left on his contract. He's 27 years old now and I doubt he'd want to play second fiddle to Van Persie that could impact his own career.
 
I have a feeling something was said in Thailand between Rooney and Moyes. Wasn't Moyes's comments after Rooney got back to England for "treatment". Wouldn't surprise me if Rooney got message that chelsea seriously wanted him...told Moyes he wanted out...so they sent him back on the pretence of a small slight hamstring tear..

rest my case m'lud...
 
You lot need to calm down. One little report from the ever dependable "Sky sources" and 3 pages of hate about him being bigger than the club and needs to leave asap blah blah blah.
 
Hung out dry :lol: This guy is one of if not the best paid player in the PL. And he played us to get this contract. Fergie did all he could to keep him. Hung out dry my arse. If Persie is better than him it's only natural he will play.
 
Beachryan said:
He's been hung out to dry by first Ferguson and now Moyes. I don't know who runs our f*cking PR team, but they might as well be the same dipsh*ts that 'handled' the Suarez/Evra affair for LFC.

Situation: Most important player in team for last 3 seasons is disgruntled at having limited gametime in current season, and being played out of position all the time. Goes to manager, tells him this. As Ferguson (and presumably Manchester United) do you:
a. Tell the press he asked to leave, and you’ve dropped him accordingly
b. Tell the press he’s ‘picked up a knock/isn’t totally fit’ and rest him for 2 matches, then sort it out in the summer behind closed doors
c. Don’t tell the press anything

Now you’re a new manager and have inherited a player rightly pissed off with the club for having his private discussion aired publically, who is still the 2nd best attacker at the club and probably the most marquee player. Do you:
a. Put an arm around him, say everything will be different now and you want to work with him to build the best team with him as a key component
b. Continually refuse to answer direct questions and refer to his current fitness instead, implying his previous fitness was poor
c. Release public statements hanging him even further out to dry (both the CEO and Moyes)

It’s just a shambles of PR in every way. Either we want to keep one of our only truly class players or we want to maximise his sale so we can attempt to replace his contribution. Under both of those scenarios, we want to maintain appearances that he is settled and a huge bid would be necessary. Instead it’s like the club are forcing him out, reducing his transfer fee and leaving us no time to replace him.

If we had the brains running our commercial department running the football side, maybe we’d do a bit f*cking better with this. Football today is about appearances, and we appear short-sighted, weak and poor at a time when the outside world are rubbing their hands are our impending collapse.


If you were a player thinking of joining us, that’s the impression you get too.
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Yeah I think the club realise all of this. We're not run by chimps! The situation is likely to have required Moyes to take this stance.
 
Shane88 said:
Talksport with their usual "Poor Wayne" shtick.

I just hope we can get £40 million+ from Chelsea for the prick.
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We'll be lucky to get £30m from him. He wants to leave, he's had an average season, and unlike Torres, he's no longer crucial and our most important player. Can't see anyone giving us £40m for him.
 
bosnian_red said:
Christ aren't all of you being a bunch of sensitive girls here. Rooney's perfectly entitled to want to leave the club, nobody is forcing him to stay. He's been here for 9 years and almost everyone of those 9 years he provided us with great service, and now that he isn't as important as he was maybe 2 years ago he is looking to go to a team where he would be the undisputed first choice. I really don't see the problem there. He's hardly disrespected the club this time (unlike last time where he questioned the ambition, different situation though) and he's only got 2 more years left on his contract. He's 27 years old now and I doubt he'd want to play second fiddle to Van Persie that could impact his own career.
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So why can't he submit a transfer request then?
 
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