Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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I respect your opinion but I strongly disagree. Sir Alex had two press-conference's when he more or less only talked about the clubs problem with one single individual and Moyes had to spend a large part of his first meeting with the press to talk about the same player. Coincidence?

I can't remember another of our player who have caused so much problem without having to leave the club. After Moyes last statement about him staying there had been no comments from Wayne Rooney himself regarding this issue, you don't find this strange? Everyday we read reports about him going to other clubs and still you see no reasons for him to come out with a statement of his intentions. Do you honestly find this OK?

Manchester United according to Moyes don't want to sell him but I'm not sure we want keep him either. Is he worth all this trouble?

Well, he is thinking about leaving, then. Or perhaps just giving that impression, in order to make the club offer him one last big contract. What does this mean? It means he's not Paul Scholes - but we knew that already. It doesn't mean he's a horrible monster, though. Just another modern footballer who cares more about his own career and his own paycheck than about the club as such. I don't like it one bit, but it's not exactly new or exceptional.

If Scholesy, God bless and protect him, is the standard - well, we need to replace practically the whole squad, because I don't know how much more "loyal" and "committed" they are than a certain scouser when push comes to shove.

The reason Moyes and Fergie have both had press conferences centered around Rooney and his situation is that the latter is big news. He's the number one English star player at the moment. It's not the unprecedented and scandalous nature of the situation itself they find newsworthy (it's commonplace these days) - but Rooney himself. That's the way the media works, it's not an indication that Rooney is a liability.
 
Any decent offer from overseas and he should be sold. Everybody must be completely sick of it. Its clear that in several meetings with moyes he did not say he wants to stay at United. The sideshow has gone on for too long now, a lot of people were pissed off when the club entertained this type of circus for Ronaldo. Rooney is a great player but no Ronaldo. He's utterly miserable and moyes could do without starting a season with this cloud hanging over the squad. An utterly unlikeable person and nowhere near as good as he could have been in recent years due to his attitude. I for one would love a season with a rooney strop every month to dominate the headlines.
 
Tevez bitched and moaned about not playing, barely trained and actually left, rejecting a pre-agreed transfer, to feck off to City for more money. I know people are a bit annoyed with Rooney, but Christ alive, are things not blown out of proportion on here. Rooney has yet to behave the way Tevez has/did. He hasn't fecked off elsewhere, for a start. If Rooney leaves I wonder if he'll hold up a banner celebrating the "death" of Fergie.

My point was more about Tevez when he played for us. He never questioned the club ambitions or asked for more money. He was treated unfairly and was out of favor compared to new signing Berbatov. He said that he is not continuing the contract during the end of the season, but his performances were good. Only after he left us for City, and Fergie criticized him he became a total prick. Rooney hasn't fecked somewhere else, because we have give him as much money as he wanted, and yet again after two years he's asking to leave. Nothing wrong to grand him his long wish.
 
Why does barcelona need Rooney?

Assuming they don't intend to buy him as a squad player, they must regard him as a somewhat better footballer than many on here give him credit for.

I don't understand exactly how they intend to use him, though. But then again, we all know Rooney is a master manipulator, so he'll probably push Messi out wide and claim the Messi role for himself.
 
Can you imagine Rooney, Messi and Neymar in the same team? There is a supreme being playing football manager from the heavens I think.
 
Can you imagine Rooney, Messi and Neymar in the same team? There is a supreme being playing football manager from the heavens I think.


I think Iniesta, Messi and Neymar is a better front 3 and we're already gonna see that at Barca this season coming.
 
One doesn't play more by simply having a whine. It's a performance based system. Play better and you won't be subbed off. And let's face it, fergie has offered Rooney a great deal of lee way. He even played Rooney in central midfield to get his form back. Rooney should have only looked within for solving his issues, clearly.

Valencia and Young say Hi.
 
How do you know he's refused to get behind the new regime? This is just guess work masquerading as a point.

I'd say that this inability to tell Moyes that he wishes to stay could be interpreted as such [in addition to the earlier Fergie meeting depending on what you believe occurred].

Look, this needn't be personal on his part or out of avarice indeed it may be as amicable as these things can be, however from the club's point of view it still leaves them reaching the same general conclusion.
 
Wayne Rooney fears Manchester United supporters will boo him when the new season starts

Steve Bates[/SIZE]
7 Jul 2013 23:02

The striker had hoped chief executive Ed Woodward would make it clear that no transfer request was made - but the opportunity was missed

Wayne Rooney fears Manchester United fans will boo him when the Premier League season kicks off next month, writes Steve Bates of the Sunday People.

The 27-year-old star is said to be upset and disappointed that United chiefs this week missed a golden opportunity to set the record straight after Sir Alex Ferguson’s claims last season that he asked for a transfer.

Rooney had hoped United would be clear on the fact he did not hand in a transfer request as he has always insisted.

And that has made his long-term United future look bleaker today, with the Old Trafford hierarchy seeming unwilling to back their striker’s claims.

Rooney was hoping new chief executive Ed Woodward would have been at Moyes’ official unveiling as manager on Friday.

Instead, Woodward was absent – leaving Moyes to fend off questions about Rooney’s position at United on his own.

The club’s reluctance to admit Ferguson’s version of events is at odds with the player’s, and has stirred up anti-Rooney feeling on Twitter and websites.

That has left him fearing a fan backlash when the season starts, with supporters taking Ferguson’s side.

And until the position is clarified it is unlikely the club can build bridges to repair their relationship with Rooney.

The impasse has not harmed Rooney’s situation with Moyes – and the former Everton duo have a sound working relationship.

But if the fans turn on Rooney after a heated summer it will surely end any chance of him remaining at United.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/wayne-rooney-fears-manchester-united-2034194
 
Assuming they don't intend to buy him as a squad player, they must regard him as a somewhat better footballer than many on here give him credit for.

I don't understand exactly how they intend to use him, though. But then again, we all know Rooney is a master manipulator, so he'll probably push Messi out wide and claim the Messi role for himself.

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I'd say that this inability to tell Moyes that he wishes to stay could be interpreted as such [in addition to the earlier Fergie meeting depending on what you believe occurred].

Look, this needn't be personal on his part or out of avarice indeed it may be as amicable as these things can be, however from the club's point of view it still leaves them reaching the same general conclusion.

Yes, that's pretty much it, the way I see it. He is thinking about leaving, weighing up his options, whatever you want to call it. That's what the club are faced with at the present moment.

Moyes has talked to him already and presumably Rooney has not said or done anything which has lead Moyes to believe he definitely doesn't want to stay. His comments at the presser suggested no rift between them. So, what remains to be done is for Moyes to sit down and have a proper talk with Rooney, trying to convince him to stay on, essentially. Well, if that fails - sell him.

What we know, sort of, is that Rooney isn't sure about his future. Beyond that we know absolutely nothing. What motives he has for not coming out publicly and kissing the badge - we do not know. Perhaps he's fishing for an improved contract, perhaps he actually wants a "new challenge". Does it really matter? To me neither is all that horrible. It doesn't make him my favourite United player (he has never been that anyway), but it doesn't make him the devil either. If he decides to stay and "commit" I won't be holding it against him that he contemplated leaving - as someone else pointed out above, it ain't a marriage.
 
The guy behind him is the ghost of christmas future

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He should ask for a refund. It looks as if he's going bald again.
 
If Rooney is worried about being booed then he has himself to blame. What's stopping him from openly committing his future to is and putting an end to all these rumours.

But no, lets blame the directors and everyone but Rooney. (Assuming of course that article is accurate)
 
If Rooney is worried about being booed then he has himself to blame. What's stopping him from openly committing his future to is and putting an end to all these rumours.

But no, lets blame the directors and everyone but Rooney. (Assuming of course that article is accurate)

Whats stopping him is that he doesn't want to be at the club.
 
Whats stopping him is that he doesn't want to be at the club.

Yeah, the fact that Moyes couldn't openly answer that questions paints a picture. He sounded like a politician.
 
Can you imagine Rooney, Messi and Neymar in the same team? There is a supreme being playing football manager from the heavens I think.

I'd rather imagine RVP Ronaldo and Rooney playing together.
 
My point was more about Tevez when he played for us. He never questioned the club ambitions or asked for more money. He was treated unfairly and was out of favor compared to new signing Berbatov. He said that he is not continuing the contract during the end of the season, but his performances were good. Only after he left us for City, and Fergie criticized him he became a total prick. Rooney hasn't fecked somewhere else, because we have give him as much money as he wanted, and yet again after two years he's asking to leave. Nothing wrong to grand him his long wish.

51 games, 38 starts.
5 league goals in 29 games.

Will the Tévez myth never go away? It's amazing. He was a prick before he left, he regularly contradicted himself in the press, he tried (and shamefully succeeded) to play the fans against Fergie and his performances were fecking shite for the most part. Yes. He ran his arse off but that's about it, during his second season he was our least productive attacking player.
 
Young, Valencia, Nani, Giggs and Welbeck play on the wings and Kagawa at times.

Rooney, RvP and Hernandez are our strikers.

We play two of each.
Only nani, young and valencia are proper wingers. And nani has been injured or out of favor a lot in recent times.

Then there's the fact that Rooney being subbed off is a bigger deal.

Finally, attitude does play a part as well. Valencia probably gets extra favourable treatment from fergie because he'll never lack effort.
 
I can't see the Rooney thing being sorted until August. Just think there is a bit of a stand off at the moment and as the start of the season gets closer, so both sides get a bit more desperate to sort things out. It's all a bit cat and mouse at the moment, which isn't unusual..I mean look when we signed Berba...
 
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