Definitely. He was superb for the latter part of 2010/11. Got tons of assists, then started scoring again. Easy answer: Give him another new contract.
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Definitely. He was superb for the latter part of 2010/11. Got tons of assists, then started scoring again. Easy answer: Give him another new contract.
A quick search hasn't revealed any major developments or leaks ahead of the meeting.
The Mirror's Oliver Holt will be dedicating his column to topic though.
The Mirror's Oliver Holt will be dedicating his column to topic though.
Encouraging news, if true. If that is to be believed, then I think the situation between him and Sir Alex probably was something like Rooney wanting to leave if Sir Alex didn't see him as a key part of the team anymore, and then Sir Alex just said that he asked to leave, when he might not have said that. I hope he ends up staying and it is looking like he might. A front 3 of Rooney on the left, RVP up top and another winger on the right, with Kagawa playing as the front midfielder in a midfield 3 sounds like a very good idea to me. Especially if we get Thiago.
This is gonna be our last chance to make any decent money on him.
Nice of him to be willing to play where the manager wants. He's too good to us at times.
For god's sake it's a "secret meeting", it's the easiest way to create a completely fabricated story to keep those who can't wait for these showdown talks interested. And of course the press are just speculating that these showdown talks will be held - as they exclusively revealed on multiple occasions before finally getting it right - based on the fact training is starting this week and nothing else. When they get the date wrong they simply say that "talks were held secretly" if they were a couple of days too late or "showdown talks were put off for another day as tension rises in the camp" if they were a few days too early. Why would you pay attention to any of it? The content in these articles are things that could easily come straight from the fingers of any number of caftards. It's just that writers' opinion (or more likely a summary of fans' opinions presented in a way that will get create further interest).
If he can contribute big for us, who gives a damn? And he's not good enough, the money is not the issue.
And still, it's reasonable for a player to tell his manager in which roles he feels more comfortable playing.
Sir Alex make a climb down? Yeah, climb down out of his chair and give the jumped up little twerp a slap.
One omission from the article was any reference to him being dropped or subbed when circumstances warrant it, i guess that issue isn't on the agenda.
And personally i'd like to hear him talk about improving his fitness and the need to raise his game and compete for places like he used to.
Offski Wayne.
One omission from the article was any reference to him being dropped or subbed when circumstances warrant it, i guess that issue isn't on the agenda.
And personally i'd like to hear him talk about improving his fitness and the need to raise his game and compete for places like he used to.
Offski Wayne.
Regardless of Rooney's value or Moyes' estimation of Rooney's value, I remain utterly convinced that he won't be going anywhere. It is obviously within the club's power to keep him - it might just be a case of 'we'll stop trying to force you out son' or it might be a case of a soothing 'don't worry, you're really important still.' Moyes is very much a common sense manager. It is not common sense to allow one of the best players in the team, the most important player over the last four years, to leave just when the new manager arrives. At the very least Moyes will keep Rooney for a year to work out what's what, and then if he doesn't think we need him, he can just ditch him next season.
I thought the meeting was today, now it's tomorrow. 
What would Fergie do???
The money does matter, passing up on this opportunity is committing to Rooney over at least a 3 year period as well as the loss of any fee we might come by. As the highest paid player at United simply contributing big isn't enough, he has to produce and set an example in a manner conducive with that status.
So we have been led to believe and by both sides i might add, this does also centre around him being dropped or subbed as a result of poor form, fitness issues or the manager's tactics. He is afforded more slack in those areas than some others as it is, this sorry mess of Wayne asking to leave only compounds the problem.
Both sides are leaking stories, I reckon - headlines like 'Rooney won't accept Pay-cut' & 'Rooney wants SAF Climbdown' surely aren't suggested by Wayne's people, despite first impressions.
The total sum of feck all that the media knows trickled through their shit caked papers for the common fan to make their own judgement again anyway..........
this makes absolutely zero sense.Did not Sir Alex himself refer to such as being a factor in the request? The Daily Rooney/Mirror has also cited it on numerous occasions.
What, to expect a player who maneuvered himself into a position of pre-eminence to both perform and act accordingly?[/quote]
Obviousy we should be looking into whether we believe we're getting enough quality football compared with what we are paying him. But if we're happy with that, and he's willing to sign a new deal rather than us risking him going on a fee or a reduced price in a year or two, then the fact "it's our last chance to make any decent money on him", which I assumed was based on age more than anything, isn't important. We shouldn't be in the business of selling our best players because of money.
I don't think Roo is stupid enough to ask for a Fergie climbdown esp since Fergie is still a director at the club. Morelike media smoke. Similarly I don't think Moyes will give a "guarantee" of match starts. No fecking way either is gonna happen!
Rooney will ask for preferred position, Moyes will accesp and reitrate Roo's 'importance' to the club and a new contract will be signed.
Rooney will ask for preferred position, Moyes will accesp and reitrate Roo's 'importance' to the club and a new contract will be signed.
If reports are to be believed in the papers that Rooney and his camp are denying that he requested a transfer suggests he wants to stay. The purpose of getting the club or Sir Alex to deny or he asked for a transfer is to try and avoid a negative reaction from the fans when he's back playing.
Yes, the club will admit saf made it all up and fergie will allow that.
And on that day rooneys salary will be hand delivered by an army of pixies each carrying a one penny coin.
And on that day rooneys salary will be hand delivered by an army of pixies each carrying a one penny coin.
So Wayne and his adviser's are now saying that SAF is lying and he did not ask for a transfer or to be left out of games, BOLLOCKS. SAF would not it if it was not true.
The more things that come out , the more that Rooney's place at United is become more untenable, if they are really saying that SAF is lying, how can he play for United again.
The more things that come out , the more that Rooney's place at United is become more untenable, if they are really saying that SAF is lying, how can he play for United again.
The reason Rooney's advisors are trying to have the whole Did I or Didnt I request a transfer is that he loses his loyalty bonus of any transfer if he did hand in a request.
I think Fergie planned to get rid of Rooney this summer as they had fallen out. I dont know what has happened now and with Moyes coming in maybe its a chance for all parties to have a clean slate, this would involve UTD saying Rooney didnt hand in a request because he claims he doesnt want the fans to be on his back.
I think Fergie planned to get rid of Rooney this summer as they had fallen out. I dont know what has happened now and with Moyes coming in maybe its a chance for all parties to have a clean slate, this would involve UTD saying Rooney didnt hand in a request because he claims he doesnt want the fans to be on his back.
I admire your dedication to Alex...but I think it is true. This was discussed previously in this thread before and if you loom for brwned's post before it will help. I think Fergie took some creative licence and 'stretched' a few statements.
Sure everything will come out in time, all we know right now for sure is that one side is not telling the whole truth.
Bit of a refresher.
He talks about the Rooney situation around the 1:28 mark on the video. No way he is lying when he mentions that "he has asked for a transfer..........we are not going to let him go..."
Whether it was a written request or not, that's perfunctory. He has expressed his desire to leave for the second time and I hope he leaves. There really is no coming back from here.
I admire anyones dedication to Sir Alex but in the heat of the moment he may have just put things incorrectly in an interview. For all we know Wayne could have just asked him an innocuous question and nothing more.
Bottom line for me is to try put an end to the saga sooner rather than later, if he want to go then lets cash in. If he wants to stay then great, he still has plenty to give.
Bottom line for me is to try put an end to the saga sooner rather than later, if he want to go then lets cash in. If he wants to stay then great, he still has plenty to give.
One thing I like about Moyes is that (according to everyone who has played under him) he gets everyone up to insane fitness-levels. Will be interesting to see how that goes down with a couple of our players
He wasn't senile.
What about the Phelan interview from a couple of days back? That wasn't heat of the moment, was it?
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...Wayne-Rooney-has-put-himself-right-out-there-
It really is time to accept that Rooney is history at United. It's a shame, he should have been an all time great.
I've had a feeling that he's been at a point of no return since SAF confirmed that transfer request. I'll be quite surprised if he's still wearing a United shirt next season.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was in a United shirt next season.
feck sake, I never said he was senile. Come back to me when you learn to read my posts. Anything can happen in the heat of the moment, as for Mike...what did he actually do anyway.....
i hope you bite on this
I'd rather he not be at the club, but I don't think we can get the money he is worth by letting him go.
Isn't that just journos who don't have a clue making shit up because everyone is interested in the story?
I would like to hear what he has to say before deciding to get rid or not. If people want to trust Sir Alex and Mike 100% then thats fine but there are always two sides to a story.
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