Funny thing about that, I just saw today that Fernandinho (Brazilian at Shaktar) has been retweeting tons of messages from City fans saying basically the exact same thing.
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Funny thing about that, I just saw today that Fernandinho (Brazilian at Shaktar) has been retweeting tons of messages from City fans saying basically the exact same thing.
It says in the article that Moyes starts work at United next week. I didn't think he was legally allowed to do anything with United until July 1st.
depends what Moyes has agreed with Everton, I doubt they are going to hold him until the official end of his contract
Haven't you heard, Rooney's now on 300 grand a week according go the Guardian. The ridiculous feckers can't help it, if he stays he'll be on half a million a week before the year's out.
His past few performances have not even warranted 25k a week, let alone 250k. I don't know which club would want to pay him that much. Maybe PSG or Monaco?
Weird, even more direct than Dempsey flashing his panties at Liverpool.
Wonder how the Shaktar fans feel.
Not disclosed - these were the brief details of the out of court settlement at the time (2008):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2299180/David-Moyes-settles-Wayne-Rooney-libel-case.html
but then in 2010 they apparently kissed and made up:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/feb/20/david-moyes-wayne-rooney-everton
"Wayne phoned me up a year ago to apologise for his book and to say that the things he'd put in his book were wrong, and he'd made a mistake," said Moyes, who revealed he still has a photograph on the wall of his home of Rooney scoring for Everton against Leeds United. "I got the impression it was something Wayne wanted to do, rather than someone *suggesting it to him. It came across that he wanted to make the call and set things straight between us, and I appreciated that. I had to give him a lot of credit for that. For me it showed his maturity and he thanked us for the help that had been given to him at Everton.
"The court case had been won, anyway so it was over as far as I was concerned, but I said to him: 'No problem, that's fine. It just shows the maturity and where you're coming to.' Now he's the one who's sorting out the young players at Man United. Anyone who's stepping out of line, not doing it right, he's the one who's looking after them. Everybody gets a bit older and wiser."
Rooney's book also alleged that Moyes was overbearing and controlling *during his emergence at Everton, although he now accepts his guidance was correct. Indeed the approach of Everton's manager, who once substituted a disgusted Rooney at Bolton a few days after he had flown to Madrid to take part in a Coca-Cola commercial, followed the example set by the striker's current coach, Sir Alex Ferguson. Moyes said: "All I ever wanted to do was handle Wayne like Sir Alex handled Ryan Giggs. I looked at it and thought 'Who could guide me?' The only person who came close to Wayne Rooney for me was Charlie Nicholas. We drove to work together at Celtic, I watched him in action and I remember all the 'fun-time Charlie' stuff, but he was a great player. But the only person in management who I could see where it would come from was how Sir Alex managed Ryan Giggs. Look at Giggs now; he could be a representative of Manchester United for the rest of his life and my idea was to try and keep Wayne on a similar path."
The Everton manager said he is not seeking credit for the development of Rooney, whose 25 goals and remarkable form this season encourage his view that "I can see the word 'Great' coming, just not at this present time". Moyes added: "The maturity has come from the people around him but also from Wayne. The boy had all the ability. Nobody can take credit for Wayne's development. He is probably the last of those street players that used to be the rage when you go back to all the greats."
Despite the rapprochement Moyes accepts that anger will be reserved for Rooney among Evertonians. "It is not for me to tell the supporters what to think, and I am a supporter now myself," he said. "I understand why they are angry with him but Wayne has now acknowledged that Everton were good for him." And Moyes admits the Everton of 2004 was not the place for a talent who has gone on to claim Champions League and three successive Premier League titles at Old Trafford.
"I don't think we were ready for Wayne when he came on the scene," he added. "I can understand his feelings at the time. Everybody here wanted to keep Wayne but we probably weren't ready to keep him. Are we better now? Yes, definitely. As far as I'm concerned, I would welcome him back and I think maybe at the end of Wayne's career he might want to come back to play for Everton again. Who knows?"
"The court case had been won, anyway so it was over as far as I was concerned, but I said to him: 'No problem, that's fine. It just shows the maturity and where you're coming to.' Now he's the one who's sorting out the young players at Man United. Anyone who's stepping out of line, not doing it right, he's the one who's looking after them. Everybody gets a bit older and wiser."
Rooney's book also alleged that Moyes was overbearing and controlling *during his emergence at Everton, although he now accepts his guidance was correct. Indeed the approach of Everton's manager, who once substituted a disgusted Rooney at Bolton a few days after he had flown to Madrid to take part in a Coca-Cola commercial, followed the example set by the striker's current coach, Sir Alex Ferguson. Moyes said: "All I ever wanted to do was handle Wayne like Sir Alex handled Ryan Giggs. I looked at it and thought 'Who could guide me?' The only person who came close to Wayne Rooney for me was Charlie Nicholas. We drove to work together at Celtic, I watched him in action and I remember all the 'fun-time Charlie' stuff, but he was a great player. But the only person in management who I could see where it would come from was how Sir Alex managed Ryan Giggs. Look at Giggs now; he could be a representative of Manchester United for the rest of his life and my idea was to try and keep Wayne on a similar path."
The Everton manager said he is not seeking credit for the development of Rooney, whose 25 goals and remarkable form this season encourage his view that "I can see the word 'Great' coming, just not at this present time". Moyes added: "The maturity has come from the people around him but also from Wayne. The boy had all the ability. Nobody can take credit for Wayne's development. He is probably the last of those street players that used to be the rage when you go back to all the greats."
Despite the rapprochement Moyes accepts that anger will be reserved for Rooney among Evertonians. "It is not for me to tell the supporters what to think, and I am a supporter now myself," he said. "I understand why they are angry with him but Wayne has now acknowledged that Everton were good for him." And Moyes admits the Everton of 2004 was not the place for a talent who has gone on to claim Champions League and three successive Premier League titles at Old Trafford.
"I don't think we were ready for Wayne when he came on the scene," he added. "I can understand his feelings at the time. Everybody here wanted to keep Wayne but we probably weren't ready to keep him. Are we better now? Yes, definitely. As far as I'm concerned, I would welcome him back and I think maybe at the end of Wayne's career he might want to come back to play for Everton again. Who knows?"
Cold, probably.
Take enough away from him that we can both reward people like Hernandez and help to fund one or more summer transfers.
It sounds simplistic but Rooney's main problem seems to be that he is simply an idiot. You get the impression that he doesn't even know what he wants himself. If he does indeed end up staying again the whole situation will have become farcical - surely we can't put up with this volume of shite from one individual? Others have been given the boot for less.
Beckenbauer is a honoury president and Sky pundit. Does not have anything to do with the Bayern day-to-day-business. What he rates or not just does not really matter...
Bayern had open-media-today because of the CL final. Normally they do not say anything to rumours - not if they are not straight asked and if it is not complete bullocks - like Neymar or Rooney.
Who does?
Any news on this? Still wants to leave?
Don't really want to read through all the speculative twonk in the thread.
Don't really want to read through all the speculative twonk in the thread.
Allegedly some kind of strategy discussion took place between Fergie Giggs and Moyes, and Moyes will be meeting with Rooney next week to discuss the issue.
I can't see the big issue if he wants out to be honest. He's given what will, considering his physical deterioration, be over half his career to us and has generally put in a full effort the entire time.
Whatever the reason - he gets a 15 year career, 20 at best, so if he wants to move for a change of scenery, money, a new challenge, so he can play his favoured position, who cares.
I suppose the fact that he's done this before has me feeling readier for this?
The latest is The Times reporting he's done a U-turn, again.
Cheers, expected to be called a cnut for asking 
appreciated.
appreciated.Bayern Munich sporting director Matthias Sammer has ruled out a move for wantaway Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney in the summer, insisting he doesn't "know what Rooney would bring to the Bundesliga".
Rooney has been heavily linked with a move away from Old Trafford after a frustrating season for United which saw him shifted into the midfield and omitted from Sir Alex Ferguson's starting line-up for the crucial clash with Real Madrid in March and left out of the squad altogether for Sunday's final home game against Swansea.
Although incumbent manager David Moyes praised Rooney earlier this week and suggested he will talk to the England international over his future, Ferguson revealed the 27-year-old has already issued a transfer request.
Bayern were among the possible destinations for Rooney, but Sammer claims there is no validity to speculation that the German champions are chasing the United player.
"I don't know what Rooney would bring to the Bundesliga," Sammer said. "I can't answer that.
"I an answer that we have great respect for Wayne Rooney but there has been no contact with him. There is no contact and he's not on the agenda. No, no. Absolutely not."
Rooney will Uturn again, I'm not sure the likes of Madrid or Psg are really that interested either.
Rooney has been heavily linked with a move away from Old Trafford after a frustrating season for United which saw him shifted into the midfield and omitted from Sir Alex Ferguson's starting line-up for the crucial clash with Real Madrid in March and left out of the squad altogether for Sunday's final home game against Swansea.
Although incumbent manager David Moyes praised Rooney earlier this week and suggested he will talk to the England international over his future, Ferguson revealed the 27-year-old has already issued a transfer request.
Bayern were among the possible destinations for Rooney, but Sammer claims there is no validity to speculation that the German champions are chasing the United player.
"I don't know what Rooney would bring to the Bundesliga," Sammer said. "I can't answer that.
"I an answer that we have great respect for Wayne Rooney but there has been no contact with him. There is no contact and he's not on the agenda. No, no. Absolutely not."
Rooney will Uturn again, I'm not sure the likes of Madrid or Psg are really that interested either.
If he does not want to play then we should sit him on the bench, force feed him kebabs and beer and turn him into a fat cnut. Who will want a fat 30 year old Rooney when his contract is up? If on the other hand he changes his mind and wants to play again for United we should sit him on the bench, force feed him kebabs and beer and turn him into a fat cnut. For being a cnut twice.
I expected him to do a U turn, if the reports are true.
If he does stay, he is going to have to work very hard to bring some fans round.
I am in the get rid camp, I think his position is untenable now, get what we can for him and replace him with somebody who wants to play for the club.
Will any of the clubs that can afford to buy him, want him? I highly doubt he will go to City.
So we are giving him 250k a week in addition to feeding him kebabs and beer... for being a cnut?
Wouldn't mind being a cnut.
As it stands he has nowhere to go except maybe PSG and Real. Barcelona are apparently not interested, neither are Bayern as Sammer stated yesterday, Chelsea have Cavani lined up, we wouldn't sell to City and Arsenal/Spurs are one or two steps down (and not likely to pay his wages). He will stay, but the relationship with us supporters is fecked up. Idiot.
No one wants him, poor Wayne.
I think there's a good chance he'll end up staying, for no reason other than the fact that there are not many clubs who actually want him, can afford him, and is at the same time a step up from where he is right now. City and Chelsea might be kee, if for nothing else a trophy signing to show they can lure our star player. But they are not a step up and we're not likely to sell to a local rival.
The fact there's a new manager at United (ie new direction, new role for him, blah blah blah) might actually open the door to a U-turn without him looking like a complete tool. So as much as many of you won't like it, don't be surprised if he's still around next season. Objectively, it's not such a bad thing, really.
The fact there's a new manager at United (ie new direction, new role for him, blah blah blah) might actually open the door to a U-turn without him looking like a complete tool. So as much as many of you won't like it, don't be surprised if he's still around next season. Objectively, it's not such a bad thing, really.
Oh Wayne
Nobody wants the prick because he has demonstrated yet again that he is a loose cannon and when the going gets tough he just wants to feck off somewhere else. He will do a U-turn and decide to stay and then next summer he will want to feck off again hoping that somebody out there wants to actually buy him.
Anybody but Moyes I would agree, they have past history, Rooney had to pay him money for something in a book, he will not of liked it and my resent him for it.
Oh Wayne
Nobody wants the prick because he has demonstrated yet again that he is a loose cannon and when the going gets tough he just wants to feck off somewhere else. He will do a U-turn and decide to stay and then next summer he will want to feck off again hoping that somebody out there wants to actually buy him.
It not hard to keep fans happy is it, play decent football, score goals and not keep asking for a transfer.
Throughout this episode I've felt he didn't want to leave this time, he just wanted to get back in the team in his natural role.
You can look at this one of two ways.
1. Lazy c*** wanted to get back in the team through emotional blackmail instead of hard work.
2. He felt Fergie had had enough of him and was fighting a losing battle.
Either way, that's one reason I didn't turn on him. He's going nowhere. We're gonna have to get behind him begrudgingly or otherwise when Moyes gives him a cuddle and sticks a dummy in his gob.
You can look at this one of two ways.
1. Lazy c*** wanted to get back in the team through emotional blackmail instead of hard work.
2. He felt Fergie had had enough of him and was fighting a losing battle.
Either way, that's one reason I didn't turn on him. He's going nowhere. We're gonna have to get behind him begrudgingly or otherwise when Moyes gives him a cuddle and sticks a dummy in his gob.
Simple but 100% correct.
Sadly I am still one of the few who wants to give him another chance. I still think he can be our most important player.
But I do understand why so many have had enough.
So, when do we get to change the thread title to "confirmed U-turn"?
When United confirm its U-turn in declaring that Rooney IS for sale.
Get rid of the shit.
Oh Wayne
Nobody wants the prick because he has demonstrated yet again that he is a loose cannon and when the going gets tough he just wants to feck off somewhere else. He will do a U-turn and decide to stay and then next summer he will want to feck off again hoping that somebody out there wants to actually buy him.
That, and because perhaps nobody else in the world rates him enough to pay such a huge amount of money?.
I just think abroad he is not rated as highly. His so called heart and passion will only carry him so much, and lets be honest he has not set the world alight in the passed year.
That was many years ago though, so who knows? And once again, I can't see any team coming in for him that we'd be willing to sell to.
I wonder whether it's good for the dressing room keeping someone who everyone knows will throw his toys out the pram if he gets dropped for a big game / played out of position / whatever his main problem is. Even if this is resolved everyone will be waiting for the next chapter.
Hopefully he'll have the season of his life so it won't be an issue.
Hopefully he'll have the season of his life so it won't be an issue.
Pep also said that he would sign him for Barca if he could the last time that Rooney asked for a transfer.
Saying that he wouldn't bring anything to the Bundesliga is just typical German arrogance from Sammer, due to Germany being on top of club football at the moment. Rooney is arguably a better striker than anyone in that league, on form he unquestionably is.
Yeah and he will have a cancerous relationship with us for a while.
'Nice to see your own fans boo ya' right Wayne?
I think in all seriousness tho, just as we are hedging our bets saying he's not for sale, not going anywhere, not wanting to show our hand in any potential transfer negotiation, other clubs are doing the same. It's a stronger position for them if they feign disinterest. If they say they're desperate to bring him in, we have them over a barrel.
Everyone is playing cat and mouse here, wouldn't read much into anything anyone is saying about Rooney. I'm sure there are plenty of clubs who would have him.
Everyone is playing cat and mouse here, wouldn't read much into anything anyone is saying about Rooney. I'm sure there are plenty of clubs who would have him.
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