Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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johnmufc is a disgrace.Calling SAF selfish.... Wtf is wrong with some people ?
I hope Rooney stays, but if he leaves I know he'll be replaced by a big name star at least.
You forgot the most important one:
Is he vital for our future success, or even to be considered a major loss? NO.
Wake up and smell the coffee
The guy never cares about United, Ronaldo wants out and he speaks behind the curtain with SAF, and being a gentlement SAF granted his wish without having to publicly ask for a transfer request
Check your stats, who in the history of football handed in transfer request, I can only recall Alonso, Rooney of the recent years. The rest are just transferred or sold without too much fuss
He's our main and supposedly star player, it's fecking expected for him to lead the Goal scoring, he's not better than any other great players we've had before him, RvN, Yorke, Cole, Ole have all contributed a huge amount of goals, doesn't mean they love United less than Rooney
This "through and Through" is overrated, he's at Manchester United, and he's not exactly a world beater like Messi, he's not staying here because he's loyal, but where else could he possibly goes? Barca/Madrid won't want him, they never tap him up, City probably wouldn't want him either, Chelsea goes for Torres
He's staying all this while due to circumstances, and I doubt he have United at his heart
He's close to 28, its his last paycheck, I have no grudge if he wants to move on for money, or new challenge, but to publicly handed in a transfer request TWICE
Just sold him, he didn't deserve all the praise he got.
For all RvN, Beckham, Ronaldo, and other crucified for here, they never put in a public "TRANSFER REQUEST"
His second transfer request has justify all the dislike for him
Now he can feck off for all I care, he doesnt respect the fact that it is SAF's retiring, and causing all kinds of commotions with his stupid transfer request. Serves him right I say
You've bolded it, it must be true.
Have a read that yourself when you're sober
I would have picked RvP over Rooney any day and twice on Sunday. Rooney's blowing hot and cold, he goes missing most of the times, and record means shit in a one off game.
Negative tactics? We're being praised tactically, and its not SAF's fault the Ref's having a bonker of a match.
And Rooney, He runs around like a headless chicken because that's the only thing he can brag about, he mistimed short pass, and just because he hits a beautiful long pass in a meaningless match doesn't merit him being in the team. There is a good reason why SAF bought RvP, because at his worst that guy is still lethal, while Rooney at his worst is an atrocity, and his off days are getting more and more in between
If any RvP deserves to be there in place of Rooney. And if I recall Welbeck was the fecking MOTM that day, and you're saying he doesnt merit the starting place ahead of the off form Rooney?
Biggest pile of shit I have ever read on here FFS.
I'm not fussed at all, we'll be better off without him - maybe we'll get a replacement who is professional and doesn't smoke and drink on his holidays..
it's like a fecking cult on here at times. That is some RAWK shit.
There's a different in wanting to move to another club and publicly handing in a transfer request, there's even financial forgone for applying a transfer request.
What would be RAWKISH would be to lap it up as some kind of "rooney being hounded out of the club by SAF"
Plechazunga:
Do you think Rooney leaving is a major loss to the cub? Do you think we'll win significantly fewer games, score significantly fewer goals and do significantly worse in the league and the cups?
Obviously we're losing a quality player who any team would like to have in their squad. But he's far from irreplaceable. That's the main point here. I think we'll manage just fine without Rooney. Maybe even better, depending on who we sign.
The big loss of this season, is Fergie's retirement. The Boss is worth at least 20 Rooney's imo. If we were to become shit next season, I will have no Rooney fanboys come crawling back and claim that it's because Rooney isn't here. It's aaaaall Fergie!
Do you think Rooney leaving is a major loss to the cub? Do you think we'll win significantly fewer games, score significantly fewer goals and do significantly worse in the league and the cups?
Obviously we're losing a quality player who any team would like to have in their squad. But he's far from irreplaceable. That's the main point here. I think we'll manage just fine without Rooney. Maybe even better, depending on who we sign.
The big loss of this season, is Fergie's retirement. The Boss is worth at least 20 Rooney's imo. If we were to become shit next season, I will have no Rooney fanboys come crawling back and claim that it's because Rooney isn't here. It's aaaaall Fergie!
Yeah I think he's our best player. Many will say RVP, fair enough, I don't think there's much in it but it doesn't really affect the point. If we don't replace him with another absolutely world-class talent, whether in his position or elsewhere, we will be badly weakened.
As it is, we don't have any other really creative players except Giggs, Kagawa and Nani, and Nani may be off too.
As it is, we don't have any other really creative players except Giggs, Kagawa and Nani, and Nani may be off too.
The point is plech, he's a star player, and if he's off and we replaced him with similar player of similar caliber, we won't be worse off, and probably would be better off.
Take this season, we replaced Rooney with RvP and we were better off arguably.
It's not fair to simply take Rooney out into the equation without assuming another world class player coming in. If we didn't replace him adequately, I think the notion that we'll be weakened doesnt only apply to Rooney, but to every first team player we have
I called it earlier on in the week. His head is not right, motivation levels are down and I think is generally disillusioned with his life at the club.
I don't think it's about him not being the main man anymore, he has enjoyed playing with RvP very much IMO.
I just think he lacks the passion, and the 100% concentration required to play for this club right now. Which may be something Fergie has seen throughout the season and omitted/subbed him from games accordingly.
I don't think it's about him not being the main man anymore, he has enjoyed playing with RvP very much IMO.
I just think he lacks the passion, and the 100% concentration required to play for this club right now. Which may be something Fergie has seen throughout the season and omitted/subbed him from games accordingly.
rooney is the type of player who can be average for one year but can be one of the world's top 10 player the next. if he does leaves i hope he is going abroad. and we need a big signing to replace him too.
Well, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. I can think of at several United players who are better in terms of their position and importance to the team.
I also don't think Rooney falls under the "creative" category. Rooney is unique in one sense though. We don't have any other strikers who are "all over the pitch" and still scores goals. Still, I've always felt that this particular style of player stifles the quality of the short passing and interplay around the box. That is why Kagawa(in my opinion) is a better choice, and therefore the future. People claim that this solution is going to put too much pressure on our central midfield, but I think it's the opposite actually. Kagawa is much better at keeping the ball and passing than Rooney ever will be. This gives our midfield a whole new safety that they've never been able to enjoy before. Yes, Kagawa is not going to win the ball or track back as effectively as Rooney. Yes, he'll probably not score as many goals. But you can bet your as he'll be the mastermind behind our attacks and get many more assists.
Rooney is no longer a player we need. He's a great player to have, but we'll manage just fine without him. Even better if we sign a good player.
Did anyone really not see this coming after the transfer saga of 3 years back and when SAF signed Van Persie
Spot on.
I dont think thats fair.
In the matchday thread yesterday I said the front four we started with, VP, Danny, Chica and Kagawa, were playing far more fluid football than any front four combination that included Rooney in the last two months, and I dont think that was too far off the mark.
However, thats Rooney of the last two months. Rooney at his peak improves any front four combination we have no matter which one he replaces , the actual question isnt whether we want rooney or if hes good enough, because its a shite question, rooney at his best is easily good enough.
The only question is will he ever be at his best if we keep him.
When has he handed in a public transfer request twice...and ronaldo didn't say anything about it in public??? Want me to dig out the quotes?
If we were to sell Rooney last summer and bring in RVP as his replacement then that would be replacing him. With likes of Kagawa adding to the squad.
What an absolute steaming pile of utter horse shite.
he used to be our star player. though form is temporary, roon probably has lost his spark. contrary to the press, he is fit physically but he always lost possession easily now. his departure would not affect the team and i wonder whether he really is better than existing players while esp that he may not be able to play consecutively, can he keep his performance? even he admits that if he cannot play regularly, it is difficult for him to perform well
Got to say that I agree with this, mate. I'd rather see Kagawa in the line up, behind RvP, than Rooney every match.
Quotes and official transfer request are two different things
Am really annoyed about the timing of all this. Has over shadowed our focus on SAFs last few days at the club. Yes it's an important issue for Rooney and the club but it could have waited til after the season finished.
I'm lost for words. I really don't know what to say. Is this what we've become?
Agreed
Are you the original Elvis or the imposter?
He has given fantastic service for nearly a decade. Still has 5 years left at the very top. He is just frustrated with his form, not being played in his natural position, dropped, substituted, etc... Something he has never encountered previously in his career. He has reacted by asking for a transfer most likely in frustration. We all throw tantrums with our employers every once in a while. He's hardly slagged off the club, or Sir Alex. Some people are acting as if it was their granny he committed adultery with...
Well I remember as far back as Spoonatov so the original.
This is not a spur of moment sultan
The comment he made about the club 3 years back is very disrespectful, it's like saying that his teammates are not up to the standard, and that he belongs to a more elite set up than the guys he's playing with.
We all have a dig at our employer at times, even disgruntled and bitching behind their back, but again, to publicly slate your teammate and especially sir Alex Ferguson who probably have won titles before Rooney's even born, questioning the club ambition (only to use it as leverage for contract negotiation). If he so loves the club why don't he sign the contract and bitch about it AFTER. Funny all the talk about ambition suddenly gone after he gets his mega contract.
He's treating the fans like a fool, thinking that we'd believe that it is genuine worry about lack of ambition. That's just plain disrespectful, and to do it again in the eve of SAF retirement.
He's 27 years old now, kids in the walk of life, but in the game of football he should know better and mature enough to keep his mouth shut about his current employer and teammates
Was this place as hysterical when Spoonatov was entering the 36 chambers?
Not that I can remember. Though the Berbatov thread on transfer deadline day in 2008 was great fun.
The Tevez thread was good and all, 'cocks out' took off and never looked back. Was my fault for popularising Plech's phrase.
But yeah er... Rooney. Kill him.
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