Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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To be honest, I am not Rooneys biggest fans considering the fact that he held the club to ransom to get a payrise. However, he has been here for over 10 years and if he leaves, then it is his choice. He has given us 10 years of his life to play for us and whether we like it or not, it is rare to see a young player stay 10 years at a club nowadays. All I can say is, and that is should he leave us, then, good luck Wayne and many thanks for all that you have done for us.
 
A thread on fans' forum redcafe.net entitled Wayne Rooney has attracted over 1.1million views and nearly 10,000 posts, with many of the most recent ones venting their displeasure at Rooney's actions.

Wayne Rooney announced himself as a Premier League player at Everton

I think Moyes should let him go and we start afresh. Way too much baggage
Rooney, who signed for United for £30million back in 2004, admitted he wanted to leave the club in 2010 but u-turned on his decision three days later and subsequently signed a new contract.

One fan posted "United should let him go. We don't need prima donnas like Rooney - he's not even prima any longer" while another declared "I wish for Rooney to leave. I hope I get it."

And they are not alone.

"I think Moyes should let him go and we start afresh. Way too much baggage" was the view of one fan while another added "We have better players in RvP and arguably Kagawa. It's him who will be having any sort of regret. Not us. He is not that special anymore."

The express have quoted some posters on here
 
To be honest, I am not Rooneys biggest fans considering the fact that he held the club to ransom to get a payrise. However, he has been here for over 10 years and if he leaves, then it is his choice. He has given us 10 years of his life to play for us and whether we like it or not, it is rare to see a young player stay 10 years at a club nowadays. All I can say is, and that is should he leave us, then, good luck Wayne and many thanks for all that you have done for us.

Nope only 9 years.
 
I have 319 posts in here and The Independent didn't pick up one of them? Maybe they'll quote when they do their "Rooney set to stay" story in 2 days.
 
I have 319 posts in here and The Independent didn't pick up one of them? Maybe they'll quote when they do their "Rooney set to stay" story in 2 days.

Are you surprised after all the tripe we've been reading the last few days wr8? You don't fit the Rooney hate narrative that they're after. They'd never ever let it be known that some fans want him to stay because he's our best player. It's not interesting enough to write a balanced view.
 
I remember when Ronaldo left, the caf was all about "Rooney would never do this to us"



Well what now Caf? At least we knew from the very beginning Ronaldo would leave, Rooney has no reason to leave. I hope he's off though, we'd be a better team with a CM instead of him.
 
A thought occurred to me earlier, and there really wasn't even any need to check.

Of all the hundreds of players Alex Ferguson has had over the years, Wayne Rooney has scored by far the most goals for him. Nobody even comes close.
 
Ruud scored more than Rooney (150 - 141)

EDIT : Oh that's right, I accentdently only checked the League goals.. Still, 197 seems a very high number when thinking his current form..
 
Wayne Rooney has scored 197 goals for Manchester United. I know this by heart because about six weeks ago I was telling people how he'd very soon become only the fourth player to score 200 or us, which would surely put his contribution in context for the haters.

Then he spent the rest of the season either injured, on the bench or in midfield. The git.
 
A thought occurred to me earlier, and there really wasn't even any need to check.

Of all the hundreds of players Alex Ferguson has had over the years, Wayne Rooney has scored by far the most goals for him. Nobody even comes close.

How relevant is that stat without taking into account the time spent at the club and appearances?
 
It's relevant when considering this notion that he and Fergie hate each other.

Oh and you have to ask yourself why the potential competition for that stat all failed to reach it. (hint, it's cause they fecked off).
 
A thought occurred to me earlier, and there really wasn't even any need to check.

Of all the hundreds of players Alex Ferguson has had over the years, Wayne Rooney has scored by far the most goals for him. Nobody even comes close.

Yet he's so disposable to people on here who will tell you he's been fat, unfit and not arsed for the last three seasons. He's shit, on the decline and despite all he's achieved here and helped us achieve he's selfish and we should get rid.
 
How relevant is that stat without taking into account the time spent at the club and appearances?

There's a few other things to take into account like only playing as a main striker for one season. Took penalties for only a couple of seasons (compared to other players). Great European record despite playing almost as a second full back at times in big games and being asked to do a variety of roles.

This season even despite the criticism, he was nailed on for a goal/assist every game until he started playing as a holding midfielder. It's easy to say 'well he's been here for a long time' without taking into account that he's only played as main striker for one season. Taking everything into an account, it's a great stat.
 
Yet he's so disposable to people on here who will tell you he's been fat, unfit and not arsed for the last three seasons. He's shit, on the decline and despite all he's achieved here and helped us achieve he's selfish and we should get rid.

Well they can't really look past the hate which clouds their Rooney judgement. People are just far far too harsh on him compared to any other player here.
 
He's scored 100 fecking goals since Ronaldo left.

How many United players have ever managed 100 goals across four seasons with the club? And that's with two of those seasons featuring prolonged periods of dicking about.
 
It's relevant when considering this notion that he and Fergie hate each other.

Oh and you have to ask yourself why the potential competition for that stat all failed to reach it. (hint, it's cause they fecked off).

Is it, have we not had players at this club who succeed despite only tolerating a team mate(s)? Moreover relations were not so tense for the entirety of the nine years.

Or those competitors joined the club at an older age, suffered injury, or were willingly sold by the club after a fraction of the time.


Yet he's so disposable to people on here who will tell you he's been fat, unfit and not arsed for the last three seasons. He's shit, on the decline and despite all he's achieved here and helped us achieve he's selfish and we should get rid.

Maybe not three years however...

You would argue that he takes his fitness and training as serious as possible then?

Then there is the natural evolution of the squad versus the stage Rooney is at in his career, factors which have yes made him droppable.
 
Or those competitors joined the club at an older age, suffered injury, or were willingly sold by the club after a fraction of the time.

Ruud forced his way out, Ronaldo forced his way out, Yorke (effectively) forced his way out, Cole was never going to be that prolific, and Sparky simply wasn't that prolific despite playing for nearly as long for Fergie.

My point was that Fergie, a goalscorer himself, might well have some affection for the man who's done the most important thing in football for him more than any other.
 
For all the talk of bust ups and Fergie and Rooney not seeing eye to eye over the years, Fergie does trust Rooney quite a bit. He's the one person Fergie has passed on on field instructions to for a while. I think Fergie sees him as quite a leader on the pitch.. Even though he apparently dislikes him.

And his goal scoring record is absolutely phenomenal. I reckon he'd be close to 250 if not for all the times he's been played all over the pitch in various withdrawn roles.
 
If Rooney had played consistently as a number 9 throughout his career here (though there's not really any reason he would have been, because it's not really his position) he would almost certainly already be our leading goalscorer of all time.
 
Agreed. Even felt like he'd touch 20 to 25 goals this season but the injury and subsequent shift to midfield has really dried up the goals. He was in a good goalscoring form till the Reading game.
 
How relevant is that stat without taking into account the time spent at the club and appearances?

Do you honestly not think that scoring at an average of 20 odd goals a season is got good enough for a player? Especially given the fact that he has been switched around to fit the needs of the team? He has had one season where he was playing as a striker up top alone and he scored 34 goals then. Whats to say he wouldnt have had more 30 goal seasons if he was consistently played as a striker. And Im not saying Fergie did the wrong thing here by switching him around. I have absolutely no complaints about that. He did what was right for the team and it has shown since it has worked out well for us.

And I am not saying this by pointing at you Nick but some posters in general can really be thick when it comes to Rooney. People quickly forget what a player he has been over the course of these past 9 years. Yeah he has flaws and yes he handled the contract situation badly but that is not to deter away from the fact that he is simply one of the most talented players of this generation and has been a great player at this club.
 
I suppose that my response there to Chabon was primarily borne out of a desire to defend the ability/potential contribution of previous forwards at the club.

If Rooney is sold factors such as age, fitness, salary and the natural progression of the squad are going to be driving forces here. His rather undignified episodes compound matters for him though.
 
Ruud forced his way out, Ronaldo forced his way out, Yorke (effectively) forced his way out, Cole was never going to be that prolific, and Sparky simply wasn't that prolific despite playing for nearly as long for Fergie.

My point was that Fergie, a goalscorer himself, might well have some affection for the man who's done the most important thing in football for him more than any other.

Be fair, for half of his time here sparky was basing supplied by the likes of Ralph Milne and Danny Wallace rather than scholes Valencia and nani :lol: :lol:
 
For all the talk of bust ups and Fergie and Rooney not seeing eye to eye over the years, Fergie does trust Rooney quite a bit. He's the one person Fergie has passed on on field instructions to for a while. I think Fergie sees him as quite a leader on the pitch.. Even though he apparently dislikes him.

And his goal scoring record is absolutely phenomenal. I reckon he'd be close to 250 if not for all the times he's been played all over the pitch in various withdrawn roles.

The thing is that is entirely possible, I'm sure saf does or at least did trust him on the pitch and value him as one of our biggest assets, doesn't mean he has to like him.....(I'm also not saying he doesn't) as long as he plays and trains well saf probably couldn't give a monkeys how big a twat he is, it's not like he has to spend his free time socialising with him, he's a colleague, not a mate.
 
Well they can't really look past the hate which clouds their Rooney judgement. People are just far far too harsh on him compared to any other player here.

I don't think people have forgiven him for last time, which is fair enough.
 
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