Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Rooney asked for a transfer because he has become tired of working under Ferguson, it's unlikely he's disillusioned with general life at the club (contract, trophies, players.) That doesn't make him a cnut, not everybody has to think Ferguson is a God. He may not want to sign another contract and have to work with him every day for another 5 years.

Ferguson was weighing up his options anyway and decided he couldn't be bothered anymore. No better time to bow out than now. He retires.

Moyes becomes the standout candidate and rumours circulate he will take over in the summer, possibly bringing Rooney's pal Phil Neville along with him. This intrigues our shit haired striker.

Moyes is appointed, but Ferguson will remain for the final 2 games, which will be uncomfortable for Rooney but he can probably live with it before making a decision in the summer.

Moyes will surely try to convince Rooney to stay because he's such a quality player. Rooney stays and scores 23 league goals next year.

I have a source.

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Now you are just making stuff up. When did either case happen - that Vida or Evra admitted they almost left?

It's sad but, people just not even willing to see that the official club statement which came out against the story that started this whole shit storm is all the club/Rooney are all willing to say on the matter for now.

So ingrained that this is all Rooney's fault that with all the times in the past with rumours galore players nor club have responded directly to them but, this time the lack of it is due to Rooney being a cnut/tosser.

The Nike thing is a completely separate thing which he has control over and as such can at least clarify that.

Evra -
"I had thought about leaving Manchester United last summer for family reasons and even concluded that I wanted to, but something changed my mind quite late on,” Evra said.

“There were other clubs interested, like Inter and Real Madrid, but the manager visited me at my house in Manchester to persuade me to stay.

I know my heart has really made the right decision. When Sir Alex Ferguson talks, it’s a good idea to listen!

Can't find any Vidic quotes so maybe I got that one wrong, though I'm sure I remember reading something about the captaincy influencing him into staying.

It's genuinely idiotic that some of you can't accept he has asked to leave the club again, reported as fact by the BBC ffs. They don't make shit transfer rumours up and they are not reporting this as a rumour. They are saying he DID, not "may", "alleged" "could" "believed to" or any other cop-out phrase. Could the entire sporting press have got it so spectacularly wrong?

Don't think he's a cnut at all for asking to leave either. If he wants to leave he can feck off where he wants (Chelsea + City aside) and if he changes his mind I'll be happy.
 
Jaysus, man, will you listen to yourself?

The club have effectively said he asked for a transfer away from the club two weeks ago. That's fairly damning and Rooney does nothing to quell the rumours, yet he has time to put out a ham-fisted statement about some Nike bolloxology.

Is there an official link to this?
 
Strive for a squad with no superstars, interchangeable, disposable, replaceable. No massive egos, no massive wages. Just functional, reliable.
 
Strive for a squad with no superstars, interchangeable, disposable, replaceable. No massive egos, no massive wages. Just functional, reliable.

Be selective, be objective, be an asset to the collective.
 
It's genuinely idiotic that some of you can't accept he has asked to leave the club again, reported as fact by the BBC ffs. They don't make shit transfer rumours up and they are not reporting this as a rumour. They are saying he DID, not "may", "alleged" "could" "believed to" or any other cop-out phrase. Could the entire sporting press have got it so spectacularly wrong?

The BBC article says "On this occasion Rooney has not submitted a formal transfer request, but it is understood he asked verbally to leave".

"It is understood" is in the same ballpark as "believed to" "alleged" etc.


It was more concrete in 2010 because both parties came out and stated it had actually happened. There are no quotes from either Rooney or the club other than "Rooney is not for sale".

Why can't we all just wait until it is confirmed from at least the club or the man himself? People are saying it as if it fact based on what he HASN'T said, which is lunacy.

The BBC posted another article the same day stating that Rooney could stay afterall. Neither involve any quotes other than United saying he's not for sale, yet only the one claiming Rooney wants to leave is being reported as "fact"? Facts needs sources and quotes. There are no sources or quotes. It's conjecture.
 
The BBC article says "On this occasion Rooney has not submitted a formal transfer request, but it is understood he asked verbally to leave".

"It is understood" is in the same ballpark as "believed to" "alleged" etc.


It was more concrete in 2010 because both parties came out and stated it had actually happened. There are no quotes from either Rooney or the club other than "Rooney is not for sale".

Why can't we all just wait until it is confirmed from at least the club or the man himself? People are saying it as if it fact based on what he HASN'T said, which is lunacy.

The BBC posted another article the same day stating that Rooney could stay afterall. Neither involve any quotes other than United saying he's not for sale, yet only the one claiming Rooney wants to leave is being reported as "fact"? Facts needs sources and quotes. There are no sources or quotes. It's conjecture.

It's a lot more factual, the way this is being reported IMO. The BBC wouldn't have run the article unless they were very sure about the source. When do they make stuff up based on rumour? I reckon the same person/people that leaked the Fergie retiring story also leaked the Rooney asking to leave story.
 
The BBC article says "On this occasion Rooney has not submitted a formal transfer request, but it is understood he asked verbally to leave".

"It is understood" is in the same ballpark as "believed to" "alleged" etc.


It was more concrete in 2010 because both parties came out and stated it had actually happened. There are no quotes from either Rooney or the club other than "Rooney is not for sale".

Why can't we all just wait until it is confirmed from at least the club or the man himself? People are saying it as if it fact based on what he HASN'T said, which is lunacy.

The BBC posted another article the same day stating that Rooney could stay afterall. Neither involve any quotes other than United saying he's not for sale, yet only the one claiming Rooney wants to leave is being reported as "fact"? Facts needs sources and quotes. There are no sources or quotes. It's conjecture.

"It is understood" is how Journos prefix bullshit.
 
That's harsh. I don't think there's many who are begging us to sell him because of his performances. Maybe a handful but that's it. I agree to an extent though. People expect unequivocal loyalty from Rooney and every other one of our players but the moment that situation's flipped around the gloves are off. If he did ask to leave then people are entitled to call him every name under the sun. I just think it's weird that people can't wait four or five days for a bit of clarity either way before doing that.

Maybe Rooney did ask for a transfer and Sir Alex thought "feck this, I can't do through this again" and this "excess stress" that Capello talks about directly relates to Rooney. Then we can completely disown him. I don't see why people are in such a rush to do that though. There's an alarming amount of people that seem excited at the thought of getting rid of this poisonous personality in the squad. It's bloodthirsty behaviour not too dissimilar to the tabloids that people are so quick to criticise.
There are loads, and I think it is largely down to performances, there weren't many calls last summer to have him out when he'd scored 34 goals. The thing is once performances drop he starts to get stick for stuff that's irrelevant or tired old shit people stopped caring about years ago (including Fergie - i.e his contract saga). I mean I've seen the fact he allegedly shagged a prostitute and an older woman a decade ago brought up on this thread as one of the many reasons he doesn't deserve to be at the club, it's beyond pathetic.

Why are they entitled to call him any name under the sun? He's just a person making a career choice, I wouldn't expect to get verbally abused if I did so in my life, don't see why that shouldn't be the same for Rooney.

Football is full of players who have asked to leave clubs, our squad is made up of players who've turned their back on their own club to come here. It's justified because of the superiorirty complex of our support though, "United are a massive step up, their fans should respect that", "we're the best club in the world", the second a player asks to leave our club they're a massive cnut. It wouldn't be his fault either if Fergie couldn't handle his decision, he's just making a standard choice most footballers will make at some point in their career.

The irrationality of it all I will never understand, the majority of football fans need to get a grip and stop taking football so seriously.
 
What about "Your hair isn't lovely and Kai is a silly name"?

Kai is ancient Greek for "and", so you should write "Your hair isn't lovely and why did you name your son And"? That will blow his brains out trying to work that one out.

Really don't see all the fuss people are making this out to be. The rumours were he changed his location to @UK Nike Athlete, and that was a sign he was leaving. Now he's confirmed that it was changed ages ago, so what? The new manager is coming in, perhaps Moyes will tell him he will put him up top with RvP and Rooney will be happy again. He really is putting himself in these bad situations by asking for a move more than once. But we all have to understand one simple thing: he's thick. He will never have the support of the fans by doing this, so perhaps he should keep these things a little more secret, or be completely sure once and for all of his decisions and stick with them.
 
It's a lot more factual, the way this is being reported IMO. The BBC wouldn't have run the article unless they were very sure about the source. When do they make stuff up based on rumour? I reckon the same person/people that leaked the Fergie retiring story also leaked the Rooney asking to leave story.

Well they have reported two stories about Rooney, one saying he's asked to leave, and one saying he could stay afterall. No quotes or sources in either. When the BBC have quotes and sources, they pretty much always use them. Seems a very odd story for the BBC to be getting involved with based on the lack of actual substance. Not sure how either are factual at this moment in time.
 
It's a lot more factual, the way this is being reported IMO. The BBC wouldn't have run the article unless they were very sure about the source. When do they make stuff up based on rumour? I reckon the same person/people that leaked the Fergie retiring story also leaked the Rooney asking to leave story.

So you're assuming. Nice to know.
 
If it comes out this story is bullshit I'll ban myself from this thread for 6 months.
 
The BBC story is pretty much based on the ones that the Daily Mail and all the journos after that tweeted. No quotes nothing. Ben Smith (BBC) said he's asked for a transfer request and then also said the next day that he could stay, again with no quotes or anything to go by.
 
Unless he submitted a formal transfer request then it's not quite as 'sinister' as first assumed, however the leaking and the timing of this stinks.
 
I just think the poor lad wanted reassuring, and asked Fergie if it was best for him to leave, or would he be part of the United future?
 
He's being used on the advertising campaign for the new kits with de Gea and van Persie (see below), and there's a massive picture of his face on the outside of Old Trafford now talking about the saga 'to be continued' with Moyes post-Fergie.

Do we think this would happen if he was off?

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He's being used on the advertising campaign for the new kits with de Gea and van Persie (see below), and there's a massive picture of his face on the outside of Old Trafford now talking about the saga 'to be continued' with Moyes post-Fergie.


It could still be that he is off because I dont think the poster was made just two days ago. IF IF IF he has turned in a request, then it has come as a shock to everyone for obvious reasons and werent people mentioning that Park was used in posters last season? What happened to him after that? Its just a poster and picture on the website.
 
Somewhat dissapointed about this. Had my hopes up he was off :(
 
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