if he did put in a transfer request, he'll probably be on the bench or not present at all. It would be odd to have chants of "only one alex ferguson" beside "feck off rooney"...etc...
that is just not on....
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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if he did put in a transfer request, he'll probably be on the bench or not present at all. It would be odd to have chants of "only one alex ferguson" beside "feck off rooney"...etc...
that is just not on....
Have you actually read the thread? The CLUB has told the press that Rooney asked Fergie for a transfer two weeks ago. Rooney has said nothing.
The fans will tell him about himself whether he is on the pitch or not.
I can't fathom how anybody thinks it would be a good idea for the club to sell Rooney. Would you really like to see him at Chelsea or City, because that is almost certainly where he will end up?
Hopefully a new manager will signal a fresh start at the club for him. He is still by far the best player we have at linking midfield and attack, the one area of the pitch that always seems to be the biggest reason for poor performances IMO.
Hopefully a new manager will signal a fresh start at the club for him. He is still by far the best player we have at linking midfield and attack, the one area of the pitch that always seems to be the biggest reason for poor performances IMO.
Fair enough, we arguably are. But will everyone else think the same way?
First of all what kinda signal does it send to potential new big signings that Rooney, maybe our biggest and most well known star, wants to leave or leaves? Second, for potential signings without much of an impression of United as a club it might be a big draw to have a look at our squad and see both Wayne Rooney and RvP on that list. Without that attraction I would assume it's more tempting to head off to teams like Real, Barca, Bayern, Chelsea (money), City (money), when they look at the squads these guys possess.
I could (hopefully) be wrong, but I think this very well could be a valid point to consider.
He will almost certainly not end up at those clubs. We won't sell him to a club in England and I think he probably knows that himself
No one thinks its a good idea to sell him but at the same time, it wont be a disaster like it would have been last time. We have RVP now, Welbeck and Hernandez are more matured and with his contract situation good now, we'l actually get a good fee for him.
Also, no way will we sell him to city/chelsea. If he leaves, I think it'l be to Madrid.
Kagawa says "hello".
People are probably thinking it might be a good idea because he's handed in two transfer requests in the past few yearsand only have two years left on his contract. But what do I know, let's have him moaning at the club for the next two years if he's truly unhappy and let him go on a free.
Edit: There's been links to Bayern as well for what it's worth. Makes sense if we get Lewandowski, I guess.
It's just got to that point now where I want him gone. He clearly wants out for whatever bizarre reason he's got in that fat head of his so it's best to let him go. He's obviously hasn't a clue what he wants, first it's the team has no ambition and he doesn't want to be the main man and now he wants out because RVP has been favoured over him because he's played better.
He's at the end of his contract, he's unhappy and this is the last time we can make real money out of him. That's why.
I base my assumption on Rooney not being the type of player who would want to move abroad
Kagawa has been fairly disappointing this season. There will probably be more to come from him, but we need to see it first.
It's obviously not for trophies this time, seeing as he told SAF two weeks ago. if that's the case, what else is there, a new challenge, more money?
Some players just don't like the idea of staying at one club their entire career, Rooney is obviously one of those, and maybe it's time to let him go.
Some players just don't like the idea of staying at one club their entire career, Rooney is obviously one of those, and maybe it's time to let him go.
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Selling Rooney when he has become inconsistent and frustrating, and with a contract running down, would hardly be illogical would it?
It's still a long shot, but if Ronaldo returned then I wouldn't mind. Plus, we potentially have a better No. 10 waiting, who curiously hasn't played the last two games.
Every club has instances where they sell superstar players when it's for the good of the team.
And, I don't agree with you about the link between midfield and attack being a problem. I'd be more worried about the lack of control in central midfield.
Selling Rooney when he has become inconsistent and frustrating, and with a contract running down, would hardly be illogical would it?
It's still a long shot, but if Ronaldo returned then I wouldn't mind. Plus, we potentially have a better No. 10 waiting, who curiously hasn't played the last two games.
Every club has instances where they sell superstar players when it's for the good of the team.
And, I don't agree with you about the link between midfield and attack being a problem. I'd be more worried about the lack of control in central midfield.
tough shit for him then. He has 2 yrs left on his contract, he isnt realy in a position to pick a club specifically. He can demand a move and we'l have to sell but we wont be selling him to a rival, that am sure of.
Personally, I'd rather have Rooney than the money. Brwned made some excellent posts recently that should have convinced most people that he is still a very, very good player.
New manager - fresh start hopefully.
He's not really played in his best position with any frequency though has he?
Let him go, but only abroad. I've lost my patience with him, he has been in a strop all season anyway, and he's tried to bail out twice now.
If he leaves, it will be PSG.
Because he can commute , and his family can stay in this country.
So would most on here but only if he wants to be here. no point having a sulker for a year and then selling him on the cheap next summer because his contract is due to end. If he has set his mind on leaving, we have to sell.
The irony is he held the club to ransom, supposedly to get better players around him to match his ambition.
Now his form has dipped, those "better" players are keeping him out of the team. I too think his time is up at OT, and that he needs a new challenge (which I suspect he's not up to).
Now his form has dipped, those "better" players are keeping him out of the team. I too think his time is up at OT, and that he needs a new challenge (which I suspect he's not up to).
And Rooney hasn't? The few times Kagawa has actually played in his favourite position he's been great.
Probably didn't like being left out of the big games.
Commute to Paris?
We'll miss him for sure. He's still a quality player. But if he's not happy whats the point in keeping him? I mean at times this season he's looked disinterested and below par. You might as well save his wage, get a decent fee and invest the money into the team.
I'd hate to see him in any other teams colours but we can't keep convincing him to stay if his heart is set on moving somewhere to start anew. Maybe it's in the interests of both Club and Player than they part.
Also, this constant rumours won't do him any favours with our fans.
If he *wants* to go, then good riddence. Sell him abroad and use Kagawa in his place and use Hernandez up front more. If it meant him going to bring in a proper midfielder, I'd support that.
But it could just be media bullshit based on the past. He might see a new manager coming in as a new challenge.
But it could just be media bullshit based on the past. He might see a new manager coming in as a new challenge.
Ronaldo returning would change things, but I believe that to be an unlikely scenario.
For me, the reason we lack control in midfield is because there is often too much space between our midfielders and forwards. Rooney and Mata are probably the best two players in the league at filling that hole, and we have one of them. Doesn't make sense to sell him.
There will be a lot of speculation about our club in the papers now. Until it is confirmed then I'll take this latest transfer request with a pinch of salt.
to my mind we've had the best of him. His build doesn't lend itself to being a consistently top player the older he gets....
Yeah, I'd rather ship him off to Stoke for £3 mill than £50 mill to Chelsea. I reckon he has the brains to understand a transfer to City would most likely force him to seek refuge in Bhutan for the rest of his life.
the only way I wouldn't be so pissed off if he went to Chelsea was if we got Mata in exchange 
No no no. If you have noticed, we have not struggled to score goals at all whereas we had problems in defence (injuries and lack of consistent back five), and poor pld Carrick having to stem opposition attacks single-handedly thorugh the absence of a credible partner (Cleverley - no, Anderson - no, etc etc).
As far as Rooney is concerned, his occasional brilliance is not good enough for United. Do you see how consistently good Messi and Ronaldo are?
What irks me about the common opinion of Rooney is that he is a sulker, or that type of character. This is a player that has sacrificed himself for this club in many ways. He plays wherever we ask him to, and he generally does a good job.
Its probably the main reason why is unhappy, if this is the case, and I can't really blame him for that. He asked to leave previously because he felt the squad needed strengthening - something that almost every fan on here agreed with at the time. If Roy Keane had said that he would have been applauded for having the bollocks to do so.
Its probably the main reason why is unhappy, if this is the case, and I can't really blame him for that. He asked to leave previously because he felt the squad needed strengthening - something that almost every fan on here agreed with at the time. If Roy Keane had said that he would have been applauded for having the bollocks to do so.
So we only want players that are as consistent as Messi and Ronaldo? I'll be sure to hold the door open at Old Trafford so that the entire squad can make their way through it.
If we believe reports, he asked for a transfer and it was rejected. This from a manager who is notorious for selling players when they are on the decline. Clearly Ferguson still believes that he has something left. I agree with him.
I think its a bit trite to give him praise for playing anywhere he's asked to. Going on the pitch and doing what the manager says to is more or less literally his job.
I am not suggesting that he's shit. However if he wants to leave then we should show him the door. I am sick of him throwing toys out of the pram to be honest.
£30M to anyone in Europe.
Assuming this is all true, then the big problem is that last time he kicked off, he was displaying the kind of performances that required us to sit up and listen. Right now, he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
When he wanted to go last time, I was very concerned. This time around, I couldn't care less.
When he wanted to go last time, I was very concerned. This time around, I couldn't care less.
Fair enough - please provide evidence of occasions apart from that one time where he has done this. Do we believe everything that we read in the newspapers?
He wasn't though - in October 2010 he was smack in the middle of a terribly barren spell (he didn't score for us in open play between the first leg CL Quarter Final loss against Bayern in April 2010 and the header against West Brom in early Jan 2011, though he got 2 or 3 penalties along the way).
His strength at the time was
a) He was younger
b) He had been our most important attacking player the season before, scoring what remains his highest goal tally for us
c) We didn't really have that many viable alternatives (Hernandez was still very new and untested, Welbeck was on loan, doubts surrounded Berbatov's ability to play the number 9 role on his own)
None of that really applies anymore.
But you don't go public with it, do you? Rooney's performances haven't up to his usual standards. Sacrifice? Albeit not many players would be willing to play in different positions, Wayne's paying the price for his versatility. Otherwise we wouldn't ask him to play out on the wing if we didn't think he could a good enough job out there. I've always found the use of sacrifice in football funny because it's very loose in my opinion. I doubt Rooney volunteered himself to play out on the wing when Ronaldo became our main man. Credit to the lad, he got on with the job and did fairly well.
It seems to me, he wants a new challenge and perhaps some more recognition. He wants to be the main man. I can't see how he didn't get what was coming to him though. We brought quality in. Now he supposedly wants to leave. I think it's also clear something is a bit off with Wayne. His sluggishness, not really partaking in the title celebrations, and not really showing as much fire as he used to. I wouldn't say he's a sulker but he definitely doesn't seem at ease with his current situation.
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