You're the doctor here so you'll probably now it best. Won't it affect his stitching? Aren't there a chance they'll loosen up if he exercises too much too soon?
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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You're the doctor here so you'll probably now it best. Won't it affect his stitching? Aren't there a chance they'll loosen up if he exercises too much too soon?
Just Been reading the sun form2dau, says its worst than everyone thought and he
Couldn be out for 2 months missing 14 games!!!
Couldn be out for 2 months missing 14 games!!!
The length of time stitches stay in depends where they are. When they're over a joint they'll stay in the longest time of all. Which is still just two weeks. The skin should be closed by then but he'll need to be careful not to get a kick on the area. Which means another week or two off.
The only reason he could be out any longer would be if it got infecte - which won't happen for another few days - or if there's muscle damage. Even then, it should heal slightly quicker than a normal muscle tear a they'll have been able to sow it together.
The Telegraph are running the same story. Claiming its too early to assess whether the depth of the cut has caused damage to any of the thigh muscles:
Manchester United's Wayne Rooney faces two months out after surgery and a fight for his place when he returns
No it's ok, the caf has already decided its 3 weeks. End of
That bit doesn't make any sense. They'll have had a good luck at the muscle when they were cleaning the wound out.
Wow, what a horrible injury
Maybe its misinformation and Wayne will be back immediately after the international break?
Rooney is at a crossroads and he needs to get back to the player we know he is
...can't help think that his form problems all really began with the hair transplant. The opposite of Samson and Delilah story.... as his hair grows he becomes weaker..
shave it off roon....and everything will come back...
shave it off roon....and everything will come back...
hope he comes back fighting.
and no, I'm not worried at all about this bullshit that he may be leaving, it's just a way to sell papers. He starts one game on the bench and all of a sudden he's fallen out of favour? If that was the case, then with Fergie's rotation policy every one of our players would be in danger of getting sold.
and no, I'm not worried at all about this bullshit that he may be leaving, it's just a way to sell papers. He starts one game on the bench and all of a sudden he's fallen out of favour? If that was the case, then with Fergie's rotation policy every one of our players would be in danger of getting sold.
feck me but the media and fans arent half reactionary when it comes to Rooney. 27 league goals last season,Our fourth highest goal scorer of all time and he is coming into his peak years. He has always had bouts of poor form and he is currently in one of them. All will be forgotten in a couple of months when he is back scoring freely. Then of course he will be the greatest thing ever and key to England winning the World cup in 2014!
Nah, if you had to pick a date, his "problems" go back two and half years now, to March 2010, and the injury against Bayern.
Season ended with no major trophies, World Cup was horrific, the next season started with him fat and putting in a transfer demand.
In reality I don't think the various events are particularly related, he's just a player who has runs of bad form in between runs of amazing form. And take a while to get up to match sharpness after a lay-off.
Hope Fergie sends him to the USA like he did in late 2010 for an intense fitness programme.
Is Wayne no longer world class?
Anyone else sick of this tripe being published in the media?
The Telegraph is normally good, but the second half of that article is full of recycled crap and speculation.
Last week everyone was talking about how good the Rooney-RvP partnership would be, this week (although they haven't played together) Rooney's position at the club is at risk and he has lost his spark and fizz.
Absolute claptrap and lazy journalism to say the least. Tell us about the injury and feck off you complete and utter blabbering gobshites.
The Telegraph is normally good, but the second half of that article is full of recycled crap and speculation.
Last week everyone was talking about how good the Rooney-RvP partnership would be, this week (although they haven't played together) Rooney's position at the club is at risk and he has lost his spark and fizz.
Absolute claptrap and lazy journalism to say the least. Tell us about the injury and feck off you complete and utter blabbering gobshites.
Typical of today's media though.
The second a top player is dropped or rested, all hell breaks loose. Nani and Rooney are perfect for the journos.
The second a top player is dropped or rested, all hell breaks loose. Nani and Rooney are perfect for the journos.
Wayne is gonna come back so fecking hard later this season, mark my words. I feel this happens every year - a few bad games and he gets ripped apart. It's been like that his whole career.
Now people are trying to say he won't mesh with RVP - when he's meshed with every single fecking striker he's ever played with. Do you remember any partnership with Rooney that didn't pay dividends? Nistelrooy/Saha/Tevez/Berbatov/Welbeck/Hernandez... everyone has loved playing with him.
He'll be back at his best mid-october a few weeks after the injury.
Now people are trying to say he won't mesh with RVP - when he's meshed with every single fecking striker he's ever played with. Do you remember any partnership with Rooney that didn't pay dividends? Nistelrooy/Saha/Tevez/Berbatov/Welbeck/Hernandez... everyone has loved playing with him.
He'll be back at his best mid-october a few weeks after the injury.
Isnt Mark Ogden from the telegraph? Wasnt he recentl banned by SAF from the press conferences? Makes sense that the paper would have an agenda to cause a bit of strife at the club
http://www.football365.com/john-nicholson/8024038/Are-You-English-And-Can-Kick-A-Ball-
What a load of crap that is. Not a chance Rooney would be worth only £20 million if he wasn't English.
What a load of crap that is. Not a chance Rooney would be worth only £20 million if he wasn't English.
20 millionJonny Nich is known to be a bit of a prick, and is a fecking shite journalist/writer.
This takes some beating though, completely retarded.
This takes some beating though, completely retarded.
Why does anyone put any weight on that Sun article? And it seems all the other media sites are just basing their reports on this Sun article, so it is not like it really has any legs.
I remember when there was an article about how Rooney will find himself on the bench and Tevez/Berbatov will be the first choice partnership back in 2009. Rooney then came off the bench and scored a wonderful goal, can't remember who it was against but Ronaldo did a back heel and then Rooney did a feint and curled it in. After that, there was no more of these articles.
Gutted Rooney's injured because I think he's fired up. When he took that curling shot that went wide, usually he would've passed it, but it seemed he was trying to prove a point.
Gutted Rooney's injured because I think he's fired up. When he took that curling shot that went wide, usually he would've passed it, but it seemed he was trying to prove a point.
I remember that game. He was in brilliant form after that moment.
Was against Bolton, and then he went on a great scoring run of like 9 goals in his next 6 games or something.
Well they say the best lies have a tinge of truth to them don't they? I'm not inclined to believe any United media story unless Bob Cass has written it but the reason this one has got legs is because its believable.
People no longer view Rooney as a game changer in quite the same way as they used to. I remember the 2010 Champions League quarter final where in both legs Bayern were petrified of Rooney, so much so they systematically kicked him out of the 2nd leg. Back then Rooney's name on the team sheet was enough to force an opposition back line 10 yards towards their own goal.
The next season though we started talking about Rooney needing a Hernandez to create space for him to work in. At the time nobody thought much about this because of the positive impact it had on United. In hindsight though could we have been asking why Rooney was no longer able to create space for himself as he had when he'd played the 9.5 the season before?
Last season there were flashes of Rooney's old magic when he picked up the ball, drove towards goal, shifted it wide to Valencia and headed in the cross against City in the 2012 F.A. Cup. It reminded me of 2010 when the words United attack and Rooney were interchangeable. But despite scoring a ton of goals last season Rooney arguably showed more reliance on other players to create space for him than in 2010/11 and this has been noticed.
Despite the column inches devoted to how deadly Rooney and Van Persie could be together there has been little signs of panic or fear from either Everton or Fulham at the prospect of facing the pair. There was a time when Rooney joining another 30+ a season striker on the pitch would have caused pandemonium. But it never appeared to occur to Fulham that if they cut off his supply Rooney could drop deep and drive forward United's attacks himself like he used to. There is a perception that Rooney is no longer the X-factor and that if United don't play well as a unit Rooney isn't a threat.
In 2009/10 the opposite was true in most cases. Barring Evra, Fletcher, Nani and Valencia it was mostly the case that United would play badly but Rooney would be a threat and United would probably win as a result. The fact that this situation has seemed to change has caused people to ask questions as to why Rooney hasn't pushed on as a player. The answer being provided by the media, that is due to lack of application not lack of talent, is plausible enough that many are willing to believe it. That's why the story can run and run.
whats your considered diagnosis and estimated recovery time given what we we know?
EDIT: Read your post on previous page. Any new information to think any different?
bad news if Wayne is out for 8 weeks.
We have to hope that there is no more injuries to our forwards or we could be in big trouble.
He might not be playing that well and dropped to the bench for the last game but he is an integral part of the squad and him missing for up to 14 games is a massive blow.
We have to hope that there is no more injuries to our forwards or we could be in big trouble.
He might not be playing that well and dropped to the bench for the last game but he is an integral part of the squad and him missing for up to 14 games is a massive blow.
It is a blow, but we wont miss him as much as we have missed our defenders. We have brought in 2 fantastic attacking players, and as much as we would have liked to see them all lining up together on a consistent basis we are just going to have to wait a while, but at least we have plenty of quality now to cover for Rooney's absence. I'll just be glad when we have 2 proper centre backs on the pitch at the same time again and will trust the attacking options we have.
Yes me to. We have a lot of striking options, but we so need to get Carrick back into midfield and start playing players in their rightful positions
I agree with you on all points.
I hope injuries to our other forwards don't ruin our plans
What a bizarre injury. Impressed though....I'd have been screaming like a bitch if I looked down and saw that.
True. I thought it was nothing when I saw him just limping around with it.
welbecks reaction said it all!
"If I hear a player has fallen out of love with us, I help them out of the door," wrote Ferguson
The last time it was suggested – it was slightly more than seven months ago – that the future of Wayne Rooney at Manchester United was no longer a seamless journey into a distant future the reaction was quite extraordinary, even unprecedented. Indeed, official denials were flashing across the wires before the papers were put to bed.
Such emphatic denial, understandably enough, is a little less thick on the ground right now.
Interestingly, among all the disavowals back in January, there was not one of anything vaguely resembling the unequivocal from the man who had provoked the controversy, Sir Alex Ferguson, when he summarily dropped Rooney from an important league match, levied a fine of £250,000, then yanked him from the field in the subsequent match at Newcastle.
If that wasn't a statement of extreme concern about the player's commitment to the cause, one that Rooney no doubt assuaged for a while by a volcanic, shirt-kissing return to the team in a Cup tie at Manchester City and a vital run of consistent goalscoring, you had to wonder how much more explicit the master of Old Trafford could have been.
Such reflection has been inevitable, at least here, in the past few days when it has been pretty much impossible not to connect a sentence in the manager's programme notes before the weekend game with Fulham with another shocking decision to drop Rooney. "If I hear a player has fallen out of love with us, and is looking elsewhere, I invariably help them out of the door," wrote Ferguson.
That might seem like a line from a most familiar hymn sheet – one which has thundered in the ears of so many deposed United icons down the years – but it was given even more resonance by Rooney's presence on the bench while Robin van Persie and United's other new signing Shinji Kagawa brought such impressive animation to the team in which Rooney had laboured so heavily in a nightmare defeat at Goodison Park.
The pattern, Rooney needs to remind himself in an absence from the game which, apparently, could stretch to two months following the gash that brought to a premature end his substitute stint, has long been established at Ferguson's United. A player may propose, as Rooney did in the autumn of his horrendous 2010, a new horizon for himself but it is the boss who disposes when he considers it is entirely in his interests.
Alan Shearer, whose own resolution as a professional was unwavering, was yesterday declaring the need for Rooney to make a pivotal re-evaluation of his place in the game. Naturally, given Shearer's essentially benign style of commentary, you had to get out a machete to hack your way to any sense of a career in crisis, but a certain reality has surely never been more apparent.
It is that he has more than a single wound to nurse these next few weeks and possibly months. He has to tend a fading belief in not who he once was but what he might be again. In January many considered the idea that Rooney's days at Old Trafford might be numbered was preposterous. Now it is beyond debate that Rooney's demeanour and the level of fitness he brought to a new season after the misadventure of his delayed appearance in the Euro finals have given Ferguson an increasingly jaundiced view of the attitudes and style of a player who came so close to defecting two years ago.
The truth is that, since the January eruption, only one thing has truly changed in the relationship of manager and player. It is the degree of the manager's dependence. He said as much in those programme notes which so tellingly enthused over the new man Van Persie's desire to play for United. The shorthand was legible enough.
It said that if a player wasn't with him, if he was not demonstrably single-minded and impassioned by the challenge, the future could be no better than extremely problematic.
Where the deepest of Rooney's problems reside is not so easy to say, but there has to be an increasing suspicion that it may well be within his own perception of where he is as a footballer required to prove that some of the earliest projections of his future were not excessively inflated.
There are, let's be honest, many days when the challenge appears not so much daunting as impossible. When you have lived so long with the idea, and had it told to you so often, that you are a great player, progressive evidence to the contrary is bound to be demoralising. Does this, you have to wonder, fuel at least some of the behaviour and the demeanour which is once again so clearly dismaying the ultimate enthusiast, Ferguson?
Ferguson invested in a young player of stunning ability who seemed to rejoice in his powers. Some of the most acute professional observers of the game, including Arsène Wenger, were matter of fact about the scale of his potential. He was so exuberant, so instinctive he might indeed have been one of the last of the great street footballers.
Now, at what should be the prime of his career, he comes into a season so out of sorts that his manager's patience snaps after just one game. It is an indictment quite as heavy as the one that came in the middle of last season. It is, you have to believe, not so much an alarm call as confirmation that Wayne Rooney has to heal more than one nasty wound. He has, at the age of 26, to reinvent himself still another time. He has to accept that he is facing what might to prove to be his endgame, the one that might well define, once and for all, a career that may have been pitched impossibly high.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...alex-ferguson-still-needs-16203185.html?r=RSS
The last time it was suggested – it was slightly more than seven months ago – that the future of Wayne Rooney at Manchester United was no longer a seamless journey into a distant future the reaction was quite extraordinary, even unprecedented. Indeed, official denials were flashing across the wires before the papers were put to bed.
Such emphatic denial, understandably enough, is a little less thick on the ground right now.
Interestingly, among all the disavowals back in January, there was not one of anything vaguely resembling the unequivocal from the man who had provoked the controversy, Sir Alex Ferguson, when he summarily dropped Rooney from an important league match, levied a fine of £250,000, then yanked him from the field in the subsequent match at Newcastle.
If that wasn't a statement of extreme concern about the player's commitment to the cause, one that Rooney no doubt assuaged for a while by a volcanic, shirt-kissing return to the team in a Cup tie at Manchester City and a vital run of consistent goalscoring, you had to wonder how much more explicit the master of Old Trafford could have been.
Such reflection has been inevitable, at least here, in the past few days when it has been pretty much impossible not to connect a sentence in the manager's programme notes before the weekend game with Fulham with another shocking decision to drop Rooney. "If I hear a player has fallen out of love with us, and is looking elsewhere, I invariably help them out of the door," wrote Ferguson.
That might seem like a line from a most familiar hymn sheet – one which has thundered in the ears of so many deposed United icons down the years – but it was given even more resonance by Rooney's presence on the bench while Robin van Persie and United's other new signing Shinji Kagawa brought such impressive animation to the team in which Rooney had laboured so heavily in a nightmare defeat at Goodison Park.
The pattern, Rooney needs to remind himself in an absence from the game which, apparently, could stretch to two months following the gash that brought to a premature end his substitute stint, has long been established at Ferguson's United. A player may propose, as Rooney did in the autumn of his horrendous 2010, a new horizon for himself but it is the boss who disposes when he considers it is entirely in his interests.
Alan Shearer, whose own resolution as a professional was unwavering, was yesterday declaring the need for Rooney to make a pivotal re-evaluation of his place in the game. Naturally, given Shearer's essentially benign style of commentary, you had to get out a machete to hack your way to any sense of a career in crisis, but a certain reality has surely never been more apparent.
It is that he has more than a single wound to nurse these next few weeks and possibly months. He has to tend a fading belief in not who he once was but what he might be again. In January many considered the idea that Rooney's days at Old Trafford might be numbered was preposterous. Now it is beyond debate that Rooney's demeanour and the level of fitness he brought to a new season after the misadventure of his delayed appearance in the Euro finals have given Ferguson an increasingly jaundiced view of the attitudes and style of a player who came so close to defecting two years ago.
The truth is that, since the January eruption, only one thing has truly changed in the relationship of manager and player. It is the degree of the manager's dependence. He said as much in those programme notes which so tellingly enthused over the new man Van Persie's desire to play for United. The shorthand was legible enough.
It said that if a player wasn't with him, if he was not demonstrably single-minded and impassioned by the challenge, the future could be no better than extremely problematic.
Where the deepest of Rooney's problems reside is not so easy to say, but there has to be an increasing suspicion that it may well be within his own perception of where he is as a footballer required to prove that some of the earliest projections of his future were not excessively inflated.
There are, let's be honest, many days when the challenge appears not so much daunting as impossible. When you have lived so long with the idea, and had it told to you so often, that you are a great player, progressive evidence to the contrary is bound to be demoralising. Does this, you have to wonder, fuel at least some of the behaviour and the demeanour which is once again so clearly dismaying the ultimate enthusiast, Ferguson?
Ferguson invested in a young player of stunning ability who seemed to rejoice in his powers. Some of the most acute professional observers of the game, including Arsène Wenger, were matter of fact about the scale of his potential. He was so exuberant, so instinctive he might indeed have been one of the last of the great street footballers.
Now, at what should be the prime of his career, he comes into a season so out of sorts that his manager's patience snaps after just one game. It is an indictment quite as heavy as the one that came in the middle of last season. It is, you have to believe, not so much an alarm call as confirmation that Wayne Rooney has to heal more than one nasty wound. He has, at the age of 26, to reinvent himself still another time. He has to accept that he is facing what might to prove to be his endgame, the one that might well define, once and for all, a career that may have been pitched impossibly high.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...alex-ferguson-still-needs-16203185.html?r=RSS
That article is a whole lot of assumption based on very little. With the attacking options we have players will find themselves on the bench at times for no reason other than the choices we have.
Also, I don't know the author is, but that is horribly written. Painful to read.
Also, I don't know the author is, but that is horribly written. Painful to read.
I really don't get the fuss. Rooney was dropped to the bench for one game and the papers are trying to make a massive deal out of it. Its not like he didn't play any part in the game either, coming on as a sub. It was rotation and trying to give kagawa and RVP their first start at home in a competitive fixture, nothing more to me. I'm sure nothing is going to come from all this and Rooney will be back in the thick of things once he comes back from his injury.
Yeah. Actually I see more of a reason to create a fuss about Nani given his contract situation hasn't been sorted and more importnalty, he wasn't even on the bench. But Rooney, being England's star, makes for a better headline.
Why do all pundits and journos suddenly think Rooney will face a fight for his place?
Kagawa and Van Persie comes to mind. It's all about having something to write about. Two new quality signings, both in positions that Rooney play will encourage journalists to make up some crap that a player who is benched or not even benched will and must be sold. Squad rotation is not something Ferguson has ever done before.
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