Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Well they should get him out asap and let the new coach start afresh.

Keeping him would fester dressing room atmosphere and faith in manager early on, cause I've no doubt he would fall into the Terry mould of working against the manager.

See ya Wayne
 
shaggy said:
By his standards it's been well below par but I'm not getting into that again.
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Why, because your view is unsubstantiated whereas the evidence I've just mentioned supports the opposing view. Fair enough.

I think I'm out of this thread for a while. It's RAWK-esque lunacy.
 
Chabon said:
Actually, that reminds me, why hasn't the person who leaked Sir Alex's intentions to retire and therefore forced him to do it earlier than he had hoped been found and strung up outside Carrington yet? It was a seriously disgusting betrayal by somebody reasonably high in the club.
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You'd imagine very few people at the club knew about it as well, so it shouldn't be hard to find who the sleazy bastard is..
 
Chabon said:
Actually, that reminds me, why hasn't the person who leaked Sir Alex's intentions to retire and therefore forced him to do it earlier than he had hoped been found and strung up outside Carrington yet? It was a seriously disgusting betrayal by somebody reasonably high in the club.
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Someone also leaked news of his scheduled hip operation which is out of order imo.
 
This thread is going to be an absolute disaster over the summer. Liverpool and rival fans would love it.
 
Dominos said:
34 goals last season :lol:

cnut for asking to leave a football club.. Some of you need to get a grip..
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I understand your reasons for defending him as a player but I don't get your reasoning to suggest he's right for wanting to leave.
 
So he's a cnut because some journo has plucked a story from his arse and put it all over Twitter?

Heard all this bull before, Rooney's going nowhere.
 
wr8_utd said:
This thread is going to be an absolute disaster over the summer. Liverpool and rival fans would love it.
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I think the whole forum is to be fair. Been a strange day and will probably be a mad few months from now until....well probably for a while yet.
 
Dominos said:
Be as pedantic as you want, any discussions on here regarding Rooney are all overwhelmingly negative and the ones who'd actively want him to stay are in the minority. Between those who want him out and those who couldn't care less if he left I bet there are a fair few are the same bellends calling him a cnut for asking to leave.
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You keep saying things like "everyone", "overwhelmingly negative" and "minority". On my reading of this thread and in general on the Caf those are either gross exaggerations or just entirely wrong. Not to mention the idea that people should come in here to state that they actively want him to stay. It goes without saying for most of us, I suspect.
 
Decotron said:
:lol: Im honestly not too sure if this is just a wind up. Watching Deadwood half cut. Everyone seems to have gone mad.
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It's more like a fight scene from Spartacus with OOT mayhem all around as one man ponders in slow motion.
 
If it's true, good riddance. His boozing, smoking, whoring, and general attitude problems aren't worth the trouble or the wages if he doesn't want to be here.

I wouldn't be surprised if that scumbag Paul Stretford was just hoping to play on the inevitable upheaval to get a fat, new contract.
 
wr8_utd said:
This thread is going to be an absolute disaster over the summer. Liverpool and rival fans would love it.
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It already is. It is a disgrace to this forum. Unwarranted, personal attacks on Rooney which have nothing to do with football, and equally idiotic criticisms about his performances on the pitch which are not based in reality but by agendas and childish grudges.
 
Broyphs said:
You keep saying things like "everyone", "overwhelmingly negative" and "minority". On my reading of this thread and in general on the Caf those are either gross exaggerations or just entirely wrong. Not to mention the idea that people should come in here to state that they actively want him to stay. It goes without saying for most of us, I suspect.
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Agree Brophers. I'd love Rooney to stay if it meant the return of motivated-Wayne. Rooney at his best is magnificent. But last season was genuinely rubbish, can't be having that again from a player of his calibre.
 
I'm not so sure Wazza has behaved as badly as people think. He's also been a phenomenal player for us, and will do well wherever he goes... If he leaves.

We're talking about our 4th top scorer of all time here. And if he wants to leave I strongly suspect it's because he feels he needs a change, because his position is under threat, and maybe because of previous bad blood with Moyes. Not sure he should be lambasted for any of those things. He has better reasons than some who have gone in the past, like RVN for example who threw a hissy fit about being dropped for a game or two.

http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/Legends.aspx?sortOrder=goals
 
Sixpence said:
So he's a cnut because some journo has plucked a story from his arse and put it all over Twitter?

Heard all this bull before, Rooney's going nowhere.
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Broyphs said:
You keep saying things like "everyone", "overwhelmingly negative" and "minority". On my reading of this thread and in general on the Caf those are either gross exaggerations or just entirely wrong. Not to mention the idea that people should come in here to state that they actively want him to stay. It goes without saying for most of us, I suspect.
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johnmufc said:
It already is. It is a disgrace to this forum. Unwarranted, personal attacks on Rooney which have nothing to do with football, and equally idiotic criticisms about his performances on the pitch which are not based in reality but by agendas and childish grudges.
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Thank god for sanity!
 
Sir Matt said:
If it's true, good riddance. His boozing, smoking, whoring, and general attitude problems aren't worth the trouble or the wages if he doesn't want to be here.

I wouldn't be surprised if that scumbag Paul Stretford was just hoping to play on the inevitable upheaval to get a fat, new contract.
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The day rumours became evidence.

Calm down the lot of you.

Someone just described you lot as the SKY generation, where tabloid hysteria abounds. Prove them wrong.
 
I think I'm too drained after today to care.

I've always wanted him here, and I still do even after the last contract farce and I've ignored the speculation this season about his future as I wouldn't trust a sports journalist to tell me the time never mind trust anything else they say about internal matters at a club like United.

But IF he has once again asked to leave, then as I say I'm too drained to care anymore after today.
 
sincher said:
I'm not so sure Wazza has behaved as badly as people think. He's also been a phenomenal player for us, and will do well wherever he goes... If he leaves.

We're talking about our 4th top scorer of all time here. And if he wants to leave I strongly suspect it's because he feels he needs a change, because his position is under threat, and maybe because of previous bad blood with Moyes. Not sure he should be lambasted for any of those things. He has better reasons than some who have gone in the past, like RVN for example who threw a hissy fit about being dropped for a game or two.

http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/Legends.aspx?sortOrder=goals
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It's quite ironic that if he does feel he needs a new challenge or his position is under threat, after putting in a transfer request 2/3 years ago questioning the ambition of the club.
 
sincher said:
I'm not so sure Wazza has behaved as badly as people think. He's also been a phenomenal player for us, and will do well wherever he goes... If he leaves.

We're talking about our 4th top scorer of all time here. And if he wants to leave I strongly suspect it's because he feels he needs a change, because his position is under threat, and maybe because of previous bad blood with Moyes. Not sure he should be lambasted for any of those things. He has better reasons than some who have gone in the past, like RVN for example who threw a hissy fit about being dropped for a game or two.

http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/Legends.aspx?sortOrder=goals
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I agree. He's given us a decade, why can't he be allowed to move on with our blessings? I don't understand the animosity.
 
IF he does leave, will he suddenly become as average and overrated as Tevez?
 
I'm reading on Twitter that United have confirmed he asked to leave. Is this true?
 
If Rooney does intend leaving us, he should head back to Everton for himself. He's become a multi-millionaire with us, an international megastar footballer, won everything there's to win in the domestic game; he'd win a lot of plaudits (granted, not from the majority of United fans, but he's given us ten great years of service) by going back to Everton and playing for them when he's still good enough to make a difference to them.

The satisfaction of lining out for a club like Chelsea, no matter how much money you're getting, can't be better than playing for your boyhood club.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22460580

Manchester United insist Wayne Rooney is not for sale after it emerged the striker asked to leave Old Trafford for the second time in three years.

The 27-year-old ex-Everton forward told United boss Sir Alex Ferguson two weeks ago he felt the time was right to move after nine years at the club.

A spokesman for United would only say: "Wayne Rooney is not for sale."

The news emerged on the day Ferguson announced he would be retiring as manager at the end of the season.

Rooney has two more seasons left on a five-year contract he eventually signed after much wrangling in 2010.
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Dominos said:
Sam, you've wanted him out for months, he asks to leave and he's done something wrong, why?
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Tbh, I never 'forgave' him after the stunt he pulled in 2010. Ever since I've been somewhat 'meh' about him.

As an aside, surely United confirming this (if they have?) is a very strange thing to do and puts us in a terrible negotiating position?
 
It appears the club actually did confirm Rooney asked to leave. Oh well. When it rains it pours.

Brave new world and all that.

Also appears the players were told this weekend, so Rooney wouldn't have known when he asked. I'm not sure how the greatest manager in history leaving would change his mind, but hey, at least something has changed.
 
Castia said:
I understand your reasons for defending him as a player but I don't get your reasoning to suggest he's right for wanting to leave.
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He has every right to ask to leave, that's all I'm saying. Even if everything was perfect for him here, if he fancied a new challenge, or a change of scenery, he can respectfully ask the club to transfer him if he so wishes, this doesn't make him a bad person, and I would say this goes for any footballer..

The fact that he's consistently dropped from the team, played out of position, receives endless criticism and abuse from his own fans means it's fully justified that he'd want out and is doing many people a favour, these same people who then throw a hissy fit when he tries to make their wishes come true as the week prior they were begging for him to leave.

Sir Matt said:
If it's true, good riddance. His boozing, smoking, whoring, and general attitude problems aren't worth the trouble or the wages if he doesn't want to be here.
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:lol: You wouldn't think we were talking about our 4th all time top goalscorer and one of our best players. Some people will cling to any old shit.
 
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