Since no one knew about Fergie's retirement and I doubt Fergie for some reason confided in only Rooney, seems like it's out of the blue
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Since no one knew about Fergie's retirement and I doubt Fergie for some reason confided in only Rooney, seems like it's out of the blue
RvP gets the same wages. Would you give him the same abuses for sub standard performances?
Lewandowski or Falcao 
Pardon?
He's still pretty British.
It's not out of the blue.. Hundreds of players every year lose their place in the team, lose the faith of their manager and the fans get on their back and they view it as best to leave the club for all parties. It doesn't make him a monster.
He could walk out tomorrow on a free and after the news today, I'd barely notice.
From what I have read he's on a lot more than RVP.
Bit drunk. Whats going on?
Well papers have said he's on pretty much every possible wage from 170k to 300k. All papers did seem to agree (not that they're trustworthy) that RvP was signed on the same wages as Rooney.
He is not wanted by the fans who desperately want him out and isn't rated enough by the management to play in his favoured position or even have a consistent first team spot... What good is he doing for us by sticking around on big wages? Surely this is what everyone on here wanted? Rooney gone?
Rooney wants to go. Again.
There's so much fecktardery in such a small space in this thread that I can't actually work out what to quote first.
1. 'Rooney has had attitude problems for a while', or anything along those lines: No. He had a bit of a barney with the club and handed in a transfer request more than two and a half years ago. Since then there have been no signs of discord or attitude problems whatsoever. Every now and then the media has tried to conjure some up, but they always get discredited. However, each of these non-events apparently survives in the brains of caftards as a real thing, and whenever a new one arises, they bring up all the past fictions.
2. 'Rooney has looked disinterested recently.' Has he? I can't say I've noticed it. He's not having his best season, although it's worth noting that, game for game, it's almost his most productive ever. Really what's happened this season is that he missed much of the first half through injury, and as a result when his stats come up they don't look as good as might be expected. From this, caftards begin to extrapolate... In which recent games has he looked 'disinterested?' I thought in his recent midfield outings he really seemed to be enjoying himself, and the stats showed that he was covering more ground than almost every other player on the pitch. So that's another complete myth drawn into existence by United fans' daft determination to criticise and distrust Rooney.
3. 'Rooney is not one of our best/most important players any more.' Honestly, you just have to have had your eyes closed all season to think this. Yes, RVP is scoring feckloads of goals. But every single time Rooney has been missing from the line-up, we have seriously struggled, and looked incredibly lacklustre. The midfield and attack have not linked up, no-one has operated in the hole effectively, and the general tempo and spirit of play has been very poor. Every time Rooney has returned from injury, there has been a noticeable recovery in our form. The most obvious of these was when he came on to almost rescue the utter shambles against Spurs in September, getting an assist and basically showing more in his 45 minutes than the entire team in the first half. That turned around a period in which, despite RVP starting regularly, we had been in terrible form. Afterwards we were much better, with Rooney at the heart of the revival.
It would be sheer madness to sell him, especially the very season that Fergie retires. What's more, he's done absolutely nothing to deserve it since the incident in 2010. So please, stop pandering to the unsubstantiated bollocks in the media. And once a story is abandoned and discredited it, remember that. Don't nod along with the criticism of the media but then bring it all up again as fact next time the 'jump on Rooney' bandwagon comes to town.
Rant over.
EDIT: Oh, and 'He's on £250k/week'. No he's not. That's the figure the Sun made up by calculating his percentage of his image rights, something which lots of the big names get these days but which is never considered as part of the weekly wage, and adding it to the figure touted by all the more respectable media institutions: £180k/week. By all accounts, that is also what RVP is on.
1. 'Rooney has had attitude problems for a while', or anything along those lines: No. He had a bit of a barney with the club and handed in a transfer request more than two and a half years ago. Since then there have been no signs of discord or attitude problems whatsoever. Every now and then the media has tried to conjure some up, but they always get discredited. However, each of these non-events apparently survives in the brains of caftards as a real thing, and whenever a new one arises, they bring up all the past fictions.
2. 'Rooney has looked disinterested recently.' Has he? I can't say I've noticed it. He's not having his best season, although it's worth noting that, game for game, it's almost his most productive ever. Really what's happened this season is that he missed much of the first half through injury, and as a result when his stats come up they don't look as good as might be expected. From this, caftards begin to extrapolate... In which recent games has he looked 'disinterested?' I thought in his recent midfield outings he really seemed to be enjoying himself, and the stats showed that he was covering more ground than almost every other player on the pitch. So that's another complete myth drawn into existence by United fans' daft determination to criticise and distrust Rooney.
3. 'Rooney is not one of our best/most important players any more.' Honestly, you just have to have had your eyes closed all season to think this. Yes, RVP is scoring feckloads of goals. But every single time Rooney has been missing from the line-up, we have seriously struggled, and looked incredibly lacklustre. The midfield and attack have not linked up, no-one has operated in the hole effectively, and the general tempo and spirit of play has been very poor. Every time Rooney has returned from injury, there has been a noticeable recovery in our form. The most obvious of these was when he came on to almost rescue the utter shambles against Spurs in September, getting an assist and basically showing more in his 45 minutes than the entire team in the first half. That turned around a period in which, despite RVP starting regularly, we had been in terrible form. Afterwards we were much better, with Rooney at the heart of the revival.
It would be sheer madness to sell him, especially the very season that Fergie retires. What's more, he's done absolutely nothing to deserve it since the incident in 2010. So please, stop pandering to the unsubstantiated bollocks in the media. And once a story is abandoned and discredited it, remember that. Don't nod along with the criticism of the media but then bring it all up again as fact next time the 'jump on Rooney' bandwagon comes to town.
Rant over.
EDIT: Oh, and 'He's on £250k/week'. No he's not. That's the figure the Sun made up by calculating his percentage of his image rights, something which lots of the big names get these days but which is never considered as part of the weekly wage, and adding it to the figure touted by all the more respectable media institutions: £180k/week. By all accounts, that is also what RVP is on.
I didn't realise he had just two years left on his deal, it seemed like all the frenzy around his extension was a very short time ago yet it's been 3 years already. This Summer will be the last opportunity to get a full price then, next year we'd have to sell him at a significantly reduced price if he doesn't extend.
Bayern seem like a decent link. Rumours about them signing Lewandowski have toned down a little and they might want to sign a top striker because I don't see Gomez fitting Pep's philosophy at all and Mandzukic will probably play second fiddle to whoever they buy. Lewandowski did seem like a cert but it's not that clear cut anymore I think, negotiations seem to have stalled and Dortmund will be very reluctant to the idea of losing another player to Bayern.
I'm worried that he might really sign for Chelsea but even if he did, I could see him going down Torres and Shevchenko path - it's not very likely but certainly possible, he hasn't been at his best all that much recently and I don't think it's that improbable that he might struggle in a new environment.
I don't think he'll go to PSG.
I hope he's going to stay though. If Ferguson had still been here I'd trust him plenty to replace him with someone adequate but I don't want Moyes to have to replace one of our best and most influential players as his first challenge in the job.
Bayern seem like a decent link. Rumours about them signing Lewandowski have toned down a little and they might want to sign a top striker because I don't see Gomez fitting Pep's philosophy at all and Mandzukic will probably play second fiddle to whoever they buy. Lewandowski did seem like a cert but it's not that clear cut anymore I think, negotiations seem to have stalled and Dortmund will be very reluctant to the idea of losing another player to Bayern.
I'm worried that he might really sign for Chelsea but even if he did, I could see him going down Torres and Shevchenko path - it's not very likely but certainly possible, he hasn't been at his best all that much recently and I don't think it's that improbable that he might struggle in a new environment.
I don't think he'll go to PSG.
I hope he's going to stay though. If Ferguson had still been here I'd trust him plenty to replace him with someone adequate but I don't want Moyes to have to replace one of our best and most influential players as his first challenge in the job.
Everyone on here? Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story, eh?
No one desperately wants him out. Half of them havent forgiven him for his contract fiasco and wouldnt care if he left. There is big difference between wanting him out and not really caring if he left. Then there is the other half, which includes me, who hope he stays because he still has something to offer.
You can be sure Fergie playing him in midfield will be blamed
It probably frustrated him and pushed him out of the club. And it'll be poor Rooney who has always selflessly sacrificed himself for the club finally having enough They have clearly all been fed the same info.. Whether it's true or from a reliable source is anyone's guess. It's probably true though.
One paper said he asked for a transfer. Suddenly all the journos crawl out of their holes to back up the story. Everyone here hates him. Even more.
Tbf i berated Daniel Taylor on twitter & even provocated him enough to actually respond to me when he broke the first story that Rooney wanted a transfer request. To be fair to him he was spot on then & i'd put a good bit of money on it now that they're bang on with the story.
Okay let's assume they were all fed the same info today, surely all of them would be really eager to tweet about it as it's massive news and not just wait until another paper got the big headline?
Not saying this rumour is true but they all pretty much did that yesterday until the telegraph dropped the bombshell - Andy Mitten tweeted about 3 hours before it hinting something big was about to happen.
If all these journos (Wallace and DT and co) had such a massive scoop for so long, what on earth were they waiting for before releasing it? This sounds a lot like all the journos hopping onto the bandwagon to make sure they're not left behind incase it's true.
I agree with almost everything you say and he's the last person we should be selling at a time like this. But do you honestly think he's looked right in the last 2-3 months? I don't think it affects me too much either way to imagine things about him to suit an agenda, but he's definitely looked "off" to me since about early March.
And SAFs hip operation was leaked
You're simply deluding yourself if you don't think there's some truth in these rumours.
I thought the rumours about him wanting to go were just a consequence of Lewandowski being linked with us. If he really wants to go, so be it. However, I won't rewrite history and say that he wasn't interested or lost his mojo or any other bullshit. He is a great player, who has been vital for our team ever since he signed. But other players can fill in the gap and grow without him being in the way, just like Fletch did when Keane left, for example.
Can't say it would look that great for us if we lost both Fergie and Rooney in the summer.
Still if Van Persie keeps his form, Rooney won't be a massive loss as you would expect.
Still if Van Persie keeps his form, Rooney won't be a massive loss as you would expect.
Anyway I hope this is indeed all BS and he stays at the club. Losing Rooney, Gill, Fergie, Scholes and possibly the likes of Rio, Nani, Fletcher and Anderson all in one summer would be a bit too much to take.
The rumours haven't gone away all season. I would also be gutted that he leaves, but you must admit his future looks to be properly in doubt.
And yes sadly many idiots will celebrate if/when it happens.
If he goes to Chelsea though he can suck my fat one.
I think the whole team has looked 'off' since going out of the CL, but I don't think Rooney has looked any worse than anyone else. In fact, I think he seemed to be relishing those games he got in midfield, even if the actual performances were a bit haphazard, which is only to be expected in an unfamiliar position (and one which, for me - I recognise that this is a contentious topic - he isn't suited to.)
Rooney's more than replaceable, SAF leaving is 10000000000000x times the bigger blow.
David McDonnell @DiscoMirror 3m
Man Utd confirmed Rooney went to Ferguson a fortnight ago, asked to leave this summer and had his request turned down #MUFC
Not sure whether he means someone reliable, or just some bloke that works on the bins at OT.
Man Utd confirmed Rooney went to Ferguson a fortnight ago, asked to leave this summer and had his request turned down #MUFC
Not sure whether he means someone reliable, or just some bloke that works on the bins at OT.
If Rooney goes we won't the title again without spending £100 million+ massively improving the squad. It would be completely insane.
Anyway, Rooney put in an "informal request" and was turned down and said he's not for sale. So he's going to be here anyway.
Lets face it, the number one person to ban them from future press conferences has just decided to retire.
Daniel Taylor @DTguardian 8m
To clarify from earlier tweet, it wasn't reported at the time as it wasn't known/confirmed until this evening
So apparently the club has confirmed it now. Strange move by the club to confirm it.
To clarify from earlier tweet, it wasn't reported at the time as it wasn't known/confirmed until this evening
So apparently the club has confirmed it now. Strange move by the club to confirm it.
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