"He's just not that good any more"
Is that a recent enough quote to highlight that you're a tit?
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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"He's just not that good any more"
Is that a recent enough quote to highlight that you're a tit?
There's no point arguing with you when you've got such a raging hard on for him still
That's because Van Persie is better than him. The teams best player tends not to get shafted all over the place. It doesn't happen to messi at barca, Ronaldo at real and it doesn't happen to van Persie at united.
I don't think he's had the terrible season some make it out to be. He's been below par but still been productive. And you can have a poor season while being productive.
There's no point arguing with you when you've got such a raging hard on for him still
It's grown since he got the hair transplant.
Sexy bastard.
But yes, no point arguing with me when I'm right and you're talking bollocks.
Invisible in the first half, very good in the second, his turn and pass to set Giggs through was class. I'm not going to get involved in the shit flinging from the two sides in here but I do think he looks very subdued these last few weeks.
I'd say Scholes has had the better career and in hindsight has been the better player, but I'm saying that in my opinion the post he made probably wasn't knee jerk as it wasn't an overly 'ridiculous' assertion. Quite alot of posters would've thought back then that if Rooney was that good as a youngster, as he matured.. he'd be brilliant and probably surpass the likes of Scholes as a footballer. Not excusing his posts, just thought it was a tad harsh to label his old post as knee-jerk.
Rooney being used in different positions has started before RVP though.Between Ronaldo's departure and RVP's arrival, it can easily be said that Rooney has been the team's best attacking player.It never prevented SAF from using him in different positions when he felt like it (specially last season).
I think it's a little more complicated than Rooney not being the best player as an explanation as to why he is forced to play in multiple positions during the season.We should be happy that he is able to do that without acting like prima donna and complaining in the media
Whatever you say Coleen
Which is what I was laughed at for getting at earlier.
I think Van Persie is better in general. I think it only supports my opinion that Rooney gets shafted around rather than being considered simply too good to remove from his preferred one.
That's the most sensible post you've made in this thread today. Which tells you exactly how much bollocks you've spewed.
Laughable that I must be his wife or have a hard on for him purely because I'm not acting the bollocks and declaring him shit, past it and wishing we'd get rid.
Shite first half, better second. It's not so much his performances that worry me as he's always been inconsistent and always will. It's the half arsedness of his games that have been a problem.
I don't see how saying 5 years ago that Rooney is the biggest English talent since Gascoigne is knee jerk at all. Most people would have agreed with that statement back then.
Rooney has always been a victim of his own versatility, even before Van Persie arrived. I don't think Van Persie is any better really, the last time Rooney led the line in 09-10 he was the best player in the league. I'm sure Van Persie would find it much harder to play deeper and have the responsibility to create/build up the play, as opposed to just playing up top.
Was watching a few season highlights videos earlier. Rooney was involved in (and scored) some absolutely brilliant goals. It's not been a vintage season from him but will go down as a very good one over all. The stats speak for themselves. He's an excellent and very important player.
I don't disagree with that, just saying that maybe it's not the main reason why Rooney gets to play in different positions as he used to do it before his arrival.
Zen86 does this kind of thing everything someone comes in here to compliment Rooney. It's pathetic and you don't have to go back too far in this thread to see it for yourself.
That's simply not true. How can you say that? It's his lowest scoring season so far. How's that very good overall stat wise? You've seen him play. There's something missing from him. He's so inconsistent between matches, during a match. It's strange. Been subbed three times in the last 4 games. Subbed off against Madrid, didn't start the other game.
You have to recognize that Rooney is being criticised because he's not performing to his own standards. That's what bothering supporters. Of course it's crazy talk to say that he's not important. If he'd leave it would be very very hard to replace him. That's a fact. But performance wise this season he's been below par.
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing. Having a different opinion about one of our players, heaven forbid.
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing.
You've been a bit loose with the laughing smileys today. Amusing.
I wonder if he's carrying an injury of some sort. He's looked out of sorts and I've noticed him wincing and puffing a bit when he's had to sprint from a standing start. Maybe he's still smoking.
I agree, by his own high standards, it's not been a vintage season. I said that in the post you quoted.
Still a very good contribution to a very good season for the club.
Your name says it all. Anyway, I'm done with derailing the thread.
Didnt see the match today, so can't comment on his performance today, but you cant deny the fact that he hasnt been at his best this season though he has scored some important goals. Would love to see him get back to his best next season if he's here, and I dont want him near center midfield.
I don't think there's any doubting Rooney's importance to the team over the years and still going forward. He's on course to be our greatest goalscorer. Has he made the most of all his potential, arguably not but he's still a top player. At the moment though I would say seeing RVP and how he has led the line this season and for Arsenal over the past few years I think there is more Rooney could add to his game and he's in a difficult position atm, with RVP firmly the lead striker and Kagawa knocking on the door for the second striker role. It's a challenge he's not really had for some time but I'm hoping that having seen the competition it'll inspire him to really up his game next season.
No its not and even if it was he's still provided loads of assists. Do people not expect his rate of scoring to drop when he's playing deeper?
I also struggle to understand some the criticism of his performances in midfield this season, I mean it'll obviously take time to adapt if he does move there permanently and some of his performances have been quite encouraging though I do prefer him being played as the furthest forward where I think he's at his best.
For Utd, I think it is.
It's his joint lowest. He got 16 in 2010/11 as well, in 40 games. This year he has 16 in 36 games. There's 3 games left, so he could certainly improve on that with one or two, which would still be impressive considering he's rarely played as our most advanced forward, if at all.
A ton of assists as well. His goal ratio was improving too until he played a few games (even deeper) in midfield.
The most games he can play this season is still lower than any other season too.
The most games he can play this season is still lower than any other season too.
Based on the comments Bape, few agree with you. He makes some valid points though.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...tie-down-Wayne-Rooney-with-new-four-year-deal
Never great when the main source of an article is goal.com but it has been widely reported that Rooney wanted to stay and sign a new deal for a while now. I doubt his agent will be able to play hardball though like the article suggests though.
i believe beckham was offered an extension to his contract just weeks before he was sold to real, about a year after he had just signed a new contract. of course he was not prepared to put his signature on the paper and then we accept the offer from real.
i think rooney is in a similar situation now, if it is true he has another offer on the table. beckham was 28 when he left united, rooney is 27 now, and is negotiating possibly his last big contract with united. from the club's point of view if rooney signs, then he stays but if not then the club are prepared to sell him before his price goes down. and given the fact that rooney seems to be not as indispensable as he used to be, the ball is in the board's court rather than rooney's like 2 1/2 years ago.
i think rooney is in a similar situation now, if it is true he has another offer on the table. beckham was 28 when he left united, rooney is 27 now, and is negotiating possibly his last big contract with united. from the club's point of view if rooney signs, then he stays but if not then the club are prepared to sell him before his price goes down. and given the fact that rooney seems to be not as indispensable as he used to be, the ball is in the board's court rather than rooney's like 2 1/2 years ago.
How bad was this cameo from him?
Thought he was utter toilet when he came on, couldn't control a ball, lost it in the wrong areas and left us exposed, and then got tackled in a really key area, allowing them to rampage through and score.
I've taken a little longer than others, but starting to get a bit fed up with him now.
Certainly would sell him if we're not going to play him in his best position. No more of this sitting in the centre circle garbage.
I've taken a little longer than others, but starting to get a bit fed up with him now.
Certainly would sell him if we're not going to play him in his best position. No more of this sitting in the centre circle garbage.
He got tackled on the edge of the opposition area ffs, and you're blaming him for a goal which came after we'd won the ball back?
Pretty bad. But can't really blame him as he is never one to look interested once a season is done.
Can't say this was a good season for him and if we really do try and bring in the dortmund striker or falcao, would that mean a permanent move into midfield for him?
Can't say this was a good season for him and if we really do try and bring in the dortmund striker or falcao, would that mean a permanent move into midfield for him?
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