Rooney's been playing in midfield or on the wing because he's been highly inconsistent upfront. SAF even said himself he was giving Wayne some time in the middle for him to get some form back - had we actually had a quality partner for Carrick he'd have probably been dropped altogether. Him getting on with it isn't really a great cause for praise, he's just doing his job - actually that's arguably why this has been such a strange season for him - it seems he sees football far more like a job these days than he does for the enjoyment like he did in the past.
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Rooney's been playing in midfield or on the wing because he's been highly inconsistent upfront. SAF even said himself he was giving Wayne some time in the middle for him to get some form back - had we actually had a quality partner for Carrick he'd have probably been dropped altogether. Him getting on with it isn't really a great cause for praise, he's just doing his job - actually that's arguably why this has been such a strange season for him - it seems he sees football far more like a job these days than he does for the enjoyment like he did in the past.
feck off you knob
How many times has Rafael played in midfield? Twice?Rooney has been played out of position time and time again in his time here, and he just puts in a shift and gets on with it. Has consistently been our best player year in year out as well, and never gets the credit from some he deserves.
Even today, after a poor performance, you saw class. His ball to Giggs, some turns and first time passes, that always stand out in a game.
Rooney is and always has been a class act. He's struggled to get into it consistently this season, I think he plays better with Kagawa. Playing with Valencia and trying to get some short pass and move going must make for a thoroughly depressing afternoon.
He's stroppy though, that's obvious, I think broadly we're without a style ATM, and that's effecting everyone our traditional wing play has been so poor this year and the inclusion of Kagawa hasn't really brought the Dortmund/Chelsea/City/tiny spaniard brand of football that is so popular currently. Front and back we're great but in the middle we're lost. Rooney playing much deeper in a 9 role becomes part of that category.
I'd never want rid and despite playing poorly I'd still pick him next week no bother. I think he may want to go a little, and I really hope he doesn't because I think it would be a disaster. Our fans are too harsh on him and as Tnev pointed out he has been a tremendously selfless servant on the field, he plays for the team and follows instruction better than anyone.
Rooney is and always has been a class act. He's struggled to get into it consistently this season, I think he plays better with Kagawa. Playing with Valencia and trying to get some short pass and move going must make for a thoroughly depressing afternoon.
He's stroppy though, that's obvious, I think broadly we're without a style ATM, and that's effecting everyone our traditional wing play has been so poor this year and the inclusion of Kagawa hasn't really brought the Dortmund/Chelsea/City/tiny spaniard brand of football that is so popular currently. Front and back we're great but in the middle we're lost. Rooney playing much deeper in a 9 role becomes part of that category.
I'd never want rid and despite playing poorly I'd still pick him next week no bother. I think he may want to go a little, and I really hope he doesn't because I think it would be a disaster. Our fans are too harsh on him and as Tnev pointed out he has been a tremendously selfless servant on the field, he plays for the team and follows instruction better than anyone.
Again, quoting posts from 5 years ago. How clever.
feck off you knob
Rooney has been played out of position time and time again in his time here, and he just puts in a shift and gets on with it. Has consistently been our best player year in year out as well, and never gets the credit from some he deserves.
Rafael was selflessly sacrificing his game on those occasions too, good job he's solid enough to hold onto his natural position though.
Imagine a professional footballer being professional and playing football as a profession rather than a hobby.
You'd think they'd put a clue in the title somewhere.
Get his form back? He was on a run of games where he scored the winner vs Fulham, two goals to win us the match vs Southampton, goal and two assists vs Norwich, goal against Chelsea and the only goal to win the match vs Reading. Then all of a sudden he played as a holding midfielder for three games.
Although he improved second half, I think Kagawa is better than him in that role behind the forward and should have at least got half hour there today.
He did it twice.
Rooney has played all over the place for United, and still managed to go back up top and score bucketloads for a few seasons. I guess he wasn't solid enough to hold onto his own place over the last few seasons before we bought a shiny new toy.
What is this even supposed to mean? Rooney, good form or bad form is always involved which is why he looks even worse when he his having a shocker. RVP in bad form seems to disappear at times
Not my words - SAF's:
"Wayne was brilliant. I was thinking he possibly needed a different role in terms of getting his confidence back.
"He has been under a bit of criticism, not serious, but there were some doubters nonetheless.
"He's a fantastic player and our job is to get that confidence and form back. I thought a spell in midfield would do him the world of good and it worked for us."
And some players don't enjoy playing the sport much more than others? Why do you think Rooney's performances have been so inconsistent this year? There must be a reason for it, because at times he has been diabolical.
That's exactly the reason fergie gave so I'm not sure what you're actually arguing on the basis of.
I don't know. I don't think he's been bad as it's made out on here. This place blows everything out of proportion. He's once again been an integral part in a title winning squad.
Not sure I agree with this. It depends if you mean inconsistent in terms of all round performance or goalscoring, because these last few seasons when he starts upfront he invariably contributes goal and assists. This wasn't always the case earlier in his career but is something he has definitely improved.
I suspect Rooney is involved with some new chick and getting regular action. That explains his lack of energy and motivation.
Somebody better, you mean
Is he better? He's had a few good seasons, no doubt, and I'm delighted we have him. Rooney has been doing it for this club for years though.
It wasn't that long ago that opposition fans would have levelled the "one man team" accusation at United, because of Rooney.
All round performance. He has still scored or assisted a decent total this year. But his all round performances have been very strange. Even against Fulham when he scored twice he was completely atrocious for the first half. History well tell you he scored twice and had a good game though. Also - yes I know RvP has also had bad games, but he doesn't turn into a hindrance when he is off-form. Today - another strange Rooney performance. Pathetic for 50-60 odd minutes, then turns world class for the last thirty.
He is better, and opposition fans have been labelling us a one man team this season due to RVP (not that that actually means anything but to undermine us).
Was he better when Rooney was outscoring him all those years? Or did he just get better when he came here?
Yeah, I know why it's done, but the player has to be playing well to garner the tag.
Rooney has been immense for this club. I hope he stays right where he is.
He has down the years, but he's been garbage this season and it looks like something a bit more deep rooted than a bit of patchy form.
RVP's injury record was pretty abysmal prior to last season, since which he's been the best striker in the league.
Well okay that makes more sense. I'm not sure I agree with your interpretation of knee jerk (in the 2008 post) but I get where you are coming from.
As a comparison, Rooney had more goals from the same number of appearances last season as RVP does this season. They are both fantastic players. RVP has better touch and can produce finishes that Wayne is not capable of IMO such as the one at West Ham.
Rooney as a number 9, at his best, probably brings a bit more energy and movement and will score more 'poacher' goals.
The fact is we are spoilt having them both. Rooney's goal return was always going to suffer with the arrival of RVP as it is more natural for him to play deeper.
Saying Rooney was the best English talent since Gascoigne when he was 22 wasn't a teeny bit knee-jerk?
I think you forget just how highly rated he was back then.
Well, on the evidence of today, none of this is true. Rooney was pretty much non-existent in the first half, then got on the ball a little more in the second to mixed effect. Whereas Van Persie was getting on the ball quite a bit throughout, but seemed to be having an off day since his touch wasn't quite as smooth and didn't make the right decisions enough.
Bringing up posts from 5 years ago, when I was 15, just to try and look the big bollocks on the internet isnt a teeny bit pathetic?
Wrong, maybe but I don't know if I would consider it knee jerk.
To be fair Brwned, that's not quite knee jerk.. in terms of attacking talent has there really been any better players then Rooney in terms of raw talent since Gascoigne? am struggling to think of any as highly rated as Rooney in the noughties.
He was invisible in the first half today, but outstanding in the second I think. As good as any of our players I'd say.
Yes he's better, as he's proven over the last few seasons.
Rooney's stats this season have been good, his performances have not.
To try and look the big bollocks? If I wanted to do that I would've focussed more on the fact you want Rooney sold despite him being key to us winning yet another title. 5 titles in 7 years with him being key in every single one, and you want him sold. That's more than enough for me to act the big bollocks, whatever that means in this context. Instead I was just making a simple point that some things never change...
He's pretty highly rated now, by people who aren't fecknuts.
You're point was pretty stupid though. Bringing up a post from 5 years ago to show someone is kneejerk? Mental.
In comparison to previous seasons of course
err no he hasn't been garbage at all, not even relatively
Rooney's been playing as a striker, an attacking midfielder, a winger and a centre mid whereas Van Persie has spent the whole year in his best position leading the line.
Granted Rooney's not been close to his best this season and his general play has really let him down, but he's has a much harder role than Van Persie this year.
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