Nope, he's mostly right. A lot of our fans take Rooney very much for granted these days.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
- Thread starter gooDevil
- Start date
- Status
Nope, he's mostly right. A lot of our fans take Rooney very much for granted these days.
How many times has he scored that chip in his career? I can remember once, against David James in the FA Cup. And yet he must have tried it close to 100 times. He should be flat out told to stop trying.
He questioned our ambition. He can feck himself for all I care.
To be honest, I hope he's sold before he becomes our top scorer. That accolade should stay with someone who deserves it. Which, IMO and perhaps counter-intuitively, is about more than just goals.
To be honest, I hope he's sold before he becomes our top scorer. That accolade should stay with someone who deserves it. Which, IMO and perhaps counter-intuitively, is about more than just goals.
If there's any forward out there who's about more than just goals it's Rooney who has selflessly played anywhere for the team. I have no doubt he would have scored a lot more and been much closer to the record had he played as a number 9 for most of his career here.
Well why hasn't he been played as a number 9 for most of his career?
Because he's not good enough to make the position his own, but he's good enough to adapt. Yes he's an excellent footballer (at random, inconsistent times) I'm not denying that, but he's not a "United Great", and he's a bit of a cnut in many ways. I don't sing his name.
Because he's not good enough to make the position his own, but he's good enough to adapt. Yes he's an excellent footballer (at random, inconsistent times) I'm not denying that, but he's not a "United Great", and he's a bit of a cnut in many ways. I don't sing his name.
I wouldn't say he's not good enough to make the position his own. Last season Welbeck played up front and scored 9 league goals whereas Rooney scored 27 from a deeper position. You can't tell me Rooney wasn't good enough to be our number 9 last season. Its because Fergie maybe thinks he can offer less goals (than as a 9) but more assists like we've seen this season and in Hernandez's first season 10/11. 09/10 there was only one person scoring (Rooney) and when he got injured, we were fecked. Fergie prefers more than one striker scoring, which is why he keeps talking about his goal targets for RVP, Rooney and Hernandez. The best way to do this is to fit in another striker and play Rooney behind them who's better playing behind than the others.
What do you mean? Questioning his poor performances is taking him for granted? That's all I've ever come across in the main.
It's not like he's miles off with his efforts is it? He comes quite close with his efforts and must have hit the woodwork on a couple of occasions as well.
There was also the goal against 'Boro but the keeper was well of his line in that instance.
Thank god for Rooney, eh? This made it what, 10 goals in his last 9? While everybody's shiny new favorite toy continues to struggle upfront, Rooney's made sure we've not felt the impact of his lack of goals. 3 goals away from 200 now 
I haven't read the RVP thread, I presume he's getting far worse stick than Rooney considering he's been absolute dog shit in the past few weeks.
Some of you lot are unbelievable, only too eager to swallow the crap being fed to you by the tabloids.
'He's not good enough.... I hope he's sold before he becomes our top scorer!' Irony eh?
Some of you lot are unbelievable, only too eager to swallow the crap being fed to you by the tabloids.
'He's not good enough.... I hope he's sold before he becomes our top scorer!' Irony eh?
Thank god for Rooney, eh? This made it what, 10 goals in his last 9? While everybody's shiny new favorite toy continues to struggle upfront, Rooney's made sure we've not felt the impact of his lack of goals. 3 goals away from 200 now
This. The fact is RVP has never won a Championship medal, he's off form and struggling a bit - its the prize giving end of the season and he's not used to the mental side of it, no matter how talented he is. Rooney has been there, done it and knows what it takes and what you have to do. It isn't always about playing scintillating attacking football, it's about winning when the team are a bit jaded, spluttering a bit after some disappointing results, and I would prefer Rooney and his experience to be spear heading that than anyone else.
Bloody amazing player he's been for us...
Yeah, that's the only reason people question Rooney, because the papers recently told us so
This. It's just dumb. People talk about players', and Rooney in partcular's "football intelligence", but how come he can't see something so basic an obvious as the fact that trying that chip is a waste of posession.
At least traditional over-ambitious long shots have the chance of a goalkeeping parry, or a corner or something. His chips never lead to anything but a goal kick.
Yeah, that's the only reason people question Rooney, because the papers recently told us so
So where's the criticism for RVP and the rest who played equally as bad, but didn't score.
In your opinion maybe, but not in the real world.
"Greatest Player" and similar accolades are about a whole range of factors, whihc you may or may not think Rooney qualifies for.
Top scorer is about who has scored the most goals, oddly enough.
Hmm, maybe in the RVP thread?
Yeah? I don't see many hoping he's sold, there also seem to be far more excuses for RVP, not that people are influenced by what they read or anything.
As long as we keep winning, it will do for me . Every player has a blip in their season, no need fr hysteria. I remember even Georgie had his off days
Exactly. If Rooney had played his last 7-10 games like RvP has and if Rooney had put in a miserable performance like RvP put in last night, this thread would have exploded with criticism and calls for him to be sold and we'd all be questioning his world class status. I guess RvP will be immune to that for a while.
Nobody puts RVP on a pedestal and tries to claim he's been one of our best players recently either.
Tbf, RVP was such a revelation at the start of the season, the glow from that was bound to last a while and give him some breathing space... though it's running out now, clearly!
Rooney, we're kind of used to, so will judge more promptly on how is form is at any given point in time.
Rooney, we're kind of used to, so will judge more promptly on how is form is at any given point in time.
I know the fanboi accusation will be hurled at me but it's true. RvP earns the same as Rooney, is supposedly the better player according to most on here and yet he won't face the criticism at the level our soon to be highest goal scorer ever does.
Christ. Your man love for Rooney is insane. No one advocates selling Rooney after few bad performances on here. And RVP is just going through a goal drought, his overall play the past 10 games hasnt been bad at all. Typically easy way out to just see the number of goals a striker has scored and judge him from there.
well I think you have to factor in that this is RVP's first season at united so fans are always cut him some slack. If it was Rooney's first season with us the same would be granted for him. Rooney's like old family now..always an easy target. Next season..if the same happens for RVP...he'll get more criticism I reckon..
I'm afraid as good as Rooney is, for me, RVP is on a different level
not recently he hasn't....
It's a shame how statistics are the be all and end all these days. I wonder if some people actually watch our games.
13 goals and 4 assists in his last 14 games that he's started. What more do we want from him? Put in Messi-esque performances while he's getting those goals? That's not going to happen. RvP was doing similar stuff earlier in the season when he was scoring loads of goals without really getting too involved in the overall play.
Whose doing that with Rooney?
I'm just questioning some of the reaction to him.
Although Rooney has been far better than RVP the last few weeks.
No it's true, his form will be back though.
wr8 for starters.
He's been better than RvP for the last month and a half. So yeah he's been our best attacker recently imo. Only people in the team who've been better? Carrick, Vidic and Rafael probably.
You ought to read this thread more carefully after his "bad" performances.
Saying he's been better than VP and proving it with goal and assist stats is putting a player on a pedestal?
I hope you're read his entire post. Him wanting Rooney sold has nothing to do with his performances, he's made it very clear in the post.
What i said was that nobody's advocating selling Rooney based on few bad performances like wr8 is suggesting.
I have. He gets criticized in certain quarters because of the contract drama. Even the ones that do it accept thats the reason for it. RK too made it clear in his post that he wanted him sold because of the contract drama rather than his performances.
The forum is better than you're giving it credit for. Few bad performances rarely lead to calls for a player to be sold on here.
Have you not seen the criticism and "I'd gladly take the 30m" for him and those types of posts that come up here ever so often? Hell there's one right at the top of this very page! I know I'm quite OTT with my Rooney love but it's also true that a lot on here have their Rooney judgement severely clouded after contract-gate.
Fair enough.
Anyway I'm not arsed arguing it Rooney will put in a performance soon enough and people will shift their focus to whoever the tabloid decide is the new panto villain, til it eventually swings back to Rooney.
Anyway I'm not arsed arguing it Rooney will put in a performance soon enough and people will shift their focus to whoever the tabloid decide is the new panto villain, til it eventually swings back to Rooney.
When RvP's playing bad: Drop him, the team should be based on form not reputation.
When Rooney's playing bad: Undroppable, needs games to get back to world class form.
Spot the difference?
It's a good job he's got good statistics, that's literally the only thing he's got going for him this season. To claim he's been one of our best players is frankly laughable.
- Status